Saw something very cruel today

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I honestly think when 'Asians' refer to themselves in terms like that it is amazingly racist to the rest of Asia (and thus very hypocritical). When I went to an Asian' meeting it was clear Indians were not considered Asian, and there was essentially no brotherhood whatsoever. In fact it felt like I was at a Stormfront meeting (nothing outright said, but clearly the ostentatiousness of me appearing at an Asian meeting was amazing to them). I am pretty sure if a Turk went there they would be treated the same. When I was young my best friend was Oriental and I was Indian and we were both Asian . Today I (and 1 billion others apperently) don't get to be Asian b/c calling ourselves Asian is anti-PC. I respect that others want to be called Asian (even if I don't think it's really necessary). But WTF, why am I no longer Asian?

Personally, I like to be called Indian-American, and most people i know like Chinese-American or whatever. But they would get pissed if someone called them Oriental (or at least be incredulous). I consider South Asian & East Asian acceptable, but I've stopped saying Asian by itself pretty much.

edit: i don't get any sense of pride by being called Asian. Maybe from South Asian, a little.

You would like to be called that, but in most cases, that is not correct (unless you are a 1st generation imigrant). Indian-American or Chinese-American implies dual citizenship or an imigrant non-citizen. I don't think people that were born here after 5 generations of US citizenship can really be called Chinese-American.

what should i be called then?

Chinese if you are from China. American if you are from America.

I would really love that. Too bad the U.S. census doesn't work that way. I'm "Asian" (not even Asian-American) according to them.

I understand the bureaucracy you speak of. I knew of a guy in highschool from South Africa. Smart guy, scored really high on SAT, but when the scholarship committee found out he was white ( which most South Africans are) and not "African American" (which he marked on the SAT, go figure?) they denied his scholarship.

The point is, I think that having to be PC on everything (because you might offend someone with the term oriental) limits the options that they can put on forms like that, thus perpetuating the problem.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
If you at least go to the website and complain, you'll probably end up with some free food. I complained on BWW's website because it took 45 minutes to get my food, and I got a $20 credit.

That's nice.

I thought so, their food is a tad pricy. But then the complaint would be registered and potentially acted upon, and he'd be rewarded for it (potentially).

 

[Toasthead]

:|

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I honestly think when 'Asians' refer to themselves in terms like that it is amazingly racist to the rest of Asia (and thus very hypocritical). When I went to an Asian' meeting it was clear Indians were not considered Asian, and there was essentially no brotherhood whatsoever. In fact it felt like I was at a Stormfront meeting (nothing outright said, but clearly the ostentatiousness of me appearing at an Asian meeting was amazing to them). I am pretty sure if a Turk went there they would be treated the same. When I was young my best friend was Oriental and I was Indian and we were both Asian . Today I (and 1 billion others apperently) don't get to be Asian b/c calling ourselves Asian is anti-PC. I respect that others want to be called Asian (even if I don't think it's really necessary). But WTF, why am I no longer Asian?

Personally, I like to be called Indian-American, and most people i know like Chinese-American or whatever. But they would get pissed if someone called them Oriental (or at least be incredulous). I consider South Asian & East Asian acceptable, but I've stopped saying Asian by itself pretty much.

edit: i don't get any sense of pride by being called Asian. Maybe from South Asian, a little.

You would like to be called that, but in most cases, that is not correct (unless you are a 1st generation imigrant). Indian-American or Chinese-American implies dual citizenship or an imigrant non-citizen. I don't think people that were born here after 5 generations of US citizenship can really be called Chinese-American.

what should i be called then?

Chinese if you are from China. American if you are from America.

I would really love that. Too bad the U.S. census doesn't work that way. I'm "Asian" (not even Asian-American) according to them.

It does. Every census I have participated in I have checked the Other box and written in American.

 

[zebano]

Thanks Linflas. I'm glad to see that someone else thinks that people born in America are Americans. I do the same thing except that it's caucasian thats not getting checked.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
I was standing in line for a quick fast-food lunch at the McDonald's union. Two people in front of me was an oriental guy, middle-aged. He approached the counter, looked up at the menu, and in halting english, asked for a "chicken burger". From that moment until about 30 seconds after he had left the counter, everyone working in that establishment mocked that poor guy for his grasp of the english language, repeatedly saying things like "Didn't think we served chicken burgers here", "If he can't read, he shouldn't have ordered", and (once) "Hey, I don't think we got chicken burgers in here, how bout some fried lice?"

Ridiculous. Appalling. I turned my heel and ate at the Rice Garden.

WHat's wrong with people these days? The peopel behind the counter didn't have the best usage of the language either. Sounded like ebonics to me.

If you want to defend an asian, don't call them oriental.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
I was standing in line for a quick fast-food lunch at the McDonald's union. Two people in front of me was an oriental guy, middle-aged. He approached the counter, looked up at the menu, and in halting english, asked for a "chicken burger". From that moment until about 30 seconds after he had left the counter, everyone working in that establishment mocked that poor guy for his grasp of the english language, repeatedly saying things like "Didn't think we served chicken burgers here", "If he can't read, he shouldn't have ordered", and (once) "Hey, I don't think we got chicken burgers in here, how bout some fried lice?"

Ridiculous. Appalling. I turned my heel and ate at the Rice Garden.

WHat's wrong with people these days? The peopel behind the counter didn't have the best usage of the language either. Sounded like ebonics to me.

It is funny how it is un-PC to make fun of ebonics, but not un-PC to make fun of other accents.

Oh well, I feel sorry for the guy, but chances are most ATOTers would do the same things. SAD

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

Originally posted by: vrbaba
You go to UIUC?

Sbarro's is better than rice garden

Yeah, just stay away from the McDonalds. Someone found a band-aid in their french fries last semester.

...And the employees are racist.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
I was standing in line for a quick fast-food lunch at the McDonald's union. Two people in front of me was an oriental guy, middle-aged. He approached the counter, looked up at the menu, and in halting english, asked for a "chicken burger". From that moment until about 30 seconds after he had left the counter, everyone working in that establishment mocked that poor guy for his grasp of the english language, repeatedly saying things like "Didn't think we served chicken burgers here", "If he can't read, he shouldn't have ordered", and (once) "Hey, I don't think we got chicken burgers in here, how bout some fried lice?"

Ridiculous. Appalling. I turned my heel and ate at the Rice Garden.

WHat's wrong with people these days? The peopel behind the counter didn't have the best usage of the language either. Sounded like ebonics to me.

i would've spoke up to them and called them out for the way they were ridiculing that guy.
and loudly so all the other patrons could hear.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
I was standing in line for a quick fast-food lunch at the McDonald's union. Two people in front of me was an oriental guy, middle-aged. He approached the counter, looked up at the menu, and in halting english, asked for a "chicken burger". From that moment until about 30 seconds after he had left the counter, everyone working in that establishment mocked that poor guy for his grasp of the english language, repeatedly saying things like "Didn't think we served chicken burgers here", "If he can't read, he shouldn't have ordered", and (once) "Hey, I don't think we got chicken burgers in here, how bout some fried lice?"

Ridiculous. Appalling. I turned my heel and ate at the Rice Garden.

WHat's wrong with people these days? The peopel behind the counter didn't have the best usage of the language either. Sounded like ebonics to me.

It is funny how it is un-PC to make fun of ebonics, but not un-PC to make fun of other accents.

Oh well, I feel sorry for the guy, but chances are most ATOTers would do the same things. SAD

i think his point was that ebonics isn't exactly the correct pronunciation of the english language either.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I honestly think when 'Asians' refer to themselves in terms like that it is amazingly racist to the rest of Asia (and thus very hypocritical). When I went to an Asian' meeting it was clear Indians were not considered Asian, and there was essentially no brotherhood whatsoever. In fact it felt like I was at a Stormfront meeting (nothing outright said, but clearly the ostentatiousness of me appearing at an Asian meeting was amazing to them). I am pretty sure if a Turk went there they would be treated the same. When I was young my best friend was Oriental and I was Indian and we were both Asian . Today I (and 1 billion others apperently) don't get to be Asian b/c calling ourselves Asian is anti-PC. I respect that others want to be called Asian (even if I don't think it's really necessary). But WTF, why am I no longer Asian?

Personally, I like to be called Indian-American, and most people i know like Chinese-American or whatever. But they would get pissed if someone called them Oriental (or at least be incredulous). I consider South Asian & East Asian acceptable, but I've stopped saying Asian by itself pretty much.

edit: i don't get any sense of pride by being called Asian. Maybe from South Asian, a little.

You would like to be called that, but in most cases, that is not correct (unless you are a 1st generation imigrant). Indian-American or Chinese-American implies dual citizenship or an imigrant non-citizen. I don't think people that were born here after 5 generations of US citizenship can really be called Chinese-American.

what should i be called then?

Chinese if you are from China. American if you are from America.

I would really love that. Too bad the U.S. census doesn't work that way. I'm "Asian" (not even Asian-American) according to them.

It does. Every census I have participated in I have checked the Other box and written in American.

as have I. But by "asian", they mean "asian american" somehow.

 

[clamum]

Sad.

Where were you, the backwoods of Kentucky?

 

[Excelsior]

People are assholes and dumb-as-sh!t. It happens.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I honestly think when 'Asians' refer to themselves in terms like that it is amazingly racist to the rest of Asia (and thus very hypocritical). When I went to an Asian' meeting it was clear Indians were not considered Asian, and there was essentially no brotherhood whatsoever. In fact it felt like I was at a Stormfront meeting (nothing outright said, but clearly the ostentatiousness of me appearing at an Asian meeting was amazing to them). I am pretty sure if a Turk went there they would be treated the same. When I was young my best friend was Oriental and I was Indian and we were both Asian . Today I (and 1 billion others apperently) don't get to be Asian b/c calling ourselves Asian is anti-PC. I respect that others want to be called Asian (even if I don't think it's really necessary). But WTF, why am I no longer Asian?

Personally, I like to be called Indian-American, and most people i know like Chinese-American or whatever. But they would get pissed if someone called them Oriental (or at least be incredulous). I consider South Asian & East Asian acceptable, but I've stopped saying Asian by itself pretty much.

edit: i don't get any sense of pride by being called Asian. Maybe from South Asian, a little.

You would like to be called that, but in most cases, that is not correct (unless you are a 1st generation imigrant). Indian-American or Chinese-American implies dual citizenship or an imigrant non-citizen. I don't think people that were born here after 5 generations of US citizenship can really be called Chinese-American.

what should i be called then?

Chinese if you are from China. American if you are from America.

I would really love that. Too bad the U.S. census doesn't work that way. I'm "Asian" (not even Asian-American) according to them.

I understand the bureaucracy you speak of. I knew of a guy in highschool from South Africa. Smart guy, scored really high on SAT, but when the scholarship committee found out he was white ( which most South Africans are) and not "African American" (which he marked on the SAT, go figure?) they denied his scholarship.

The point is, I think that having to be PC on everything (because you might offend someone with the term oriental) limits the options that they can put on forms like that, thus perpetuating the problem.

Uh..thats not true, but whatever.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: IonYou

Originally posted by: MagicConch

Originally posted by: Ready
There is nothing offensive about using the word oriental.

:beer: I'm tired of Oriental being a bad word.

Here here! And here's a beer! :beer:

Never knew it was supposed to be a bad word. That's stupid, it would be like saying calling someone a Westerner is calling them a bad word.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: BriGy86
i'd like to through this out there

what about the kids in highschool who are working there as there 1st job

is that so bad?

Maybe those kids should concentrate on their English studies (throw) instead of neffing on ATOT.

 

[GreenGhost]

Originally posted by: DonVito
It's Asian, not Oriental.

Why is the word Oriental not accepted anymore? Is it in the US only?

Soon Southern (or Meridional) will be banned too!

Meridional Fried Chicken, that's what the gentleman should have ordered.

 

[habib89]

i don't find oriental offensive, but it's just a misuse of the word.. it's just not correct.. it's a term from back in the day when asia used to be the "far east"... it's just an old and dated term, and although it can be applied to people, it usually is only for things like rugs or cuisine... the reason a lot of people are offended is because when you call a person oriental, you're calling them a "thing" from asia.. not a person.. but, like i said, it doesn't offend me..

i call it a chicken sandwich all the time when i go to mcd's... dunno why it's such a big deal.. it is a chicken sandwich.. however they have like 5 different chicken sandwiches now.. so you gotta be careful..

 

[HardcoreRobot]

ahahh just wait until they step into a japanese mcdonalds.... then they will understand....

dont get me wrong, it is funny, but not in a derogatory way

 

[Kilgor]

just get tired of all the double standards. Why do white people have no names that people need to tip-toe around in order to be PC (cracker and honkey are so funny and obvious that I dont think they count)?

White people have been beaten down and trained to take what the other races dish out. Because some white people had slaves at one point in our history like every other race did. Also why did the Japanese Americans interned in WW2 get reparations and not the German Americans?

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: SeaMonki
hehe there's a reason why those ppl are working in McDonald

Natural selection.

 

[Sukhoi]

The UIUC McDonalds is like the worst one I've ever eaten at in my life. Seriously I can't think of a worse experience.

 

[dym]

well, i think I'm that poor guy

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: DonVito
It's Asian, not Oriental.

Was he Indian?

 

[Maluno]

Originally posted by: DonVito
It's Asian, not Oriental.

Better yet, is "azn."