Say what you will, but Tebow freaking wins.

[Adrenaline]

Alex Smith
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Big Ben
Joe Flacco

Difference between these QBs and TT is that they have a proven track record of winning (sans Smith)

The bolded all rank in top 10 in QB rating (Rodgers, Brees, and Brady top 3), Flacco at 20, and TT at a mind numbing 25

Six out of 31 other QBs hold a better record, wow. Four of which have been good for a few years now (Brady, Rodgers, Brees and Ben), Flacco just does not show up some times which I do not understand why and Smith is doing well this year for once.

They lost to the Bills badly, that happens in the NFL some times. Everyone does not always beat who they are supposed to, look at the Packers against the Chiefs.

As of now, he is a winning QB in the NFL. He is fun to watch.

7-3 is a heck of a lot better than 1-4, which their last QB had there. He is doing something a heck of a lot better than Orton was.

 

[blurredvision]

As of now, he is a winning QB in the NFL.

Keep holding onto that one, I doubt it will last long.

 

[Adrenaline]

Keep holding onto that one, I doubt it will last long.

As of now, he is a winning QB in the NFL. He can lose his next two games and he will finish the season with a winning record for started games (7-5). It does not matter how much hate he gets, he has won games. It is his second season in the NFL, he needs to work on his throwing motion. I do not recall anyone saying, OMG HE IS THE BEST EVER !!!!!!!! If someone did say that, then they would be sadly mistaken.

He is better than what they had before and that is what matters right now.

 

[SSSnail]

Good thing he started out the whole season, right? Had he started from beginning, I bet you anything his records will be median at best.

But, do continue to wallow in your ignorance, and the glaze of Jeebus.

 

[ric1287]

It's funny watching people backtrack now.

"bu bu but...i never said he was the greatest ever!!!!! I just said he was an average QB!!!!! I never said he was the reason why they've won all these games!!!!"

Idiots. My theory still holds true: You can tell instantly if a person knows anything about football based on what they think of Tebone

 

[purbeast0]

Say what you will, but Tebow got blown the fuck out!

My theory still holds true: You can tell instantly if a person knows anything about football based on what they think of Tebone

Oh so true... can tell from this thread big time.

 

[angminas]

1. You have to be able to beat the elite teams in the NFL if you want to be a contender.
2. You can't get blown out by mediocre teams in the NFL if you want to be a contender.

Also, he has a 75.9 QB rating...

Alex Smith
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Big Ben
Joe Flacco

Difference between these QBs and TT is that they have a proven track record of winning (sans Smith)

The bolded all rank in top 10 in QB rating (Rodgers, Brees, and Brady top 3), Flacco at 20, and TT at a mind numbing 25

You're comparing Tebow with the most successful and experienced quarterbacks in the league (there are seven Super Bowl rings and nine appearances in that group!) when he doesn't even have a single full year of starts. You're debating whether the Broncos are contenders when they were NOTHING before Tebow took over. Your very attacks on him make him look better.

You can't turn garbage into gold in half a season (though they've come very close). Instead of comparing him to Brady, you should be comparing him to Orton.

 

[gorcorps]

I hope you all had a Merry Tebow-mas!

 

[Corporate Thug]

You're comparing Tebow with the most successful and experienced quarterbacks in the league (there are seven Super Bowl rings and nine appearances in that group!) when he doesn't even have a single full year of starts. You're debating whether the Broncos are contenders when they were NOTHING before Tebow took over. Your very attacks on him make him look better.

You can't turn garbage into gold in half a season (though they've come very close). Instead of comparing him to Brady, you should be comparing him to Orton.

The poster before me asked for QBs who have .700+ records and I named them...not really an attack there is it?

The QB rating speaks a lot louder to me than the record TBH. Over the course of 10 games, it's not a far stretch to have a .700 record on the strength of your defense, the QB defines his individual performance (just the same way I don't think Flacco is much of a QB...he is riding he defense and he does enough in the sense that he doesn't make too many mistakes).

 

[Corporate Thug]

Six out of 31 other QBs hold a better record, wow. Four of which have been good for a few years now (Brady, Rodgers, Brees and Ben), Flacco just does not show up some times which I do not understand why and Smith is doing well this year for once.

They lost to the Bills badly, that happens in the NFL some times. Everyone does not always beat who they are supposed to, look at the Packers against the Chiefs.

As of now, he is a winning QB in the NFL. He is fun to watch.

7-3 is a heck of a lot better than 1-4, which their last QB had there. He is doing something a heck of a lot better than Orton was.

And the explanation for the atrocious QB rating? "Well, 6 other QBs have worse ratings."

Orton is terrible too...the team should be looking for a QB they can build a contender around, not one who just doesn't suck as badly as the other. I'm not saying TT can't POSSIBLY be that person, but he's so far from it at this point, it's hard to imagine that would be the case.

 

[Corporate Thug]

As of now, he is a winning QB in the NFL. He can lose his next two games and he will finish the season with a winning record for started games (7-5). It does not matter how much hate he gets, he has won games. It is his second season in the NFL, he needs to work on his throwing motion. I do not recall anyone saying, OMG HE IS THE BEST EVER !!!!!!!! If someone did say that, then they would be sadly mistaken.

He is better than what they had before and that is what matters right now.

Who cares? Can you honestly tell me you'd pick TT over Cam Newton (who has less wins/worse winning percentage)?

 

[Adrenaline]

The poster before me asked for QBs who have .700+ records and I named them...not really an attack there is it?

The QB rating speaks a lot louder to me than the record TBH. Over the course of 10 games, it's not a far stretch to have a .700 record on the strength of your defense, the QB defines his individual performance (just the same way I don't think Flacco is much of a QB...he is riding he defense and he does enough in the sense that he doesn't make too many mistakes).

Difference between these QBs and TT is that they have a proven track record of winning (sans Smith)

The bolded all rank in top 10 in QB rating (Rodgers, Brees, and Brady top 3), Flacco at 20, and TT at a mind numbing 25

TT has done nothing but win so far. He needs to work on his throwing motion, yes, but he has done well.

 

[Adrenaline]

And the explanation for the atrocious QB rating? "Well, 6 other QBs have worse ratings."

Orton is terrible too...the team should be looking for a QB they can build a contender around, not one who just doesn't suck as badly as the other. I'm not saying TT can't POSSIBLY be that person, but he's so far from it at this point, it's hard to imagine that would be the case.

When have I said TT was the franchise QB of the Broncos? He needs to work more on his throwing big time. He is not so far from it at this point, still needs work. It is his second year. The Broncos should give him one more year and see. If he is that bad, aim for Barkley next year.

 

[JulesMaximus]

TT has done nothing but win so far. He needs to work on his throwing motion, yes, but he has done well.

When he's not winning... he's losing! There is something to be said for that, it's called mediocrity.

 

[Adrenaline]

Who cares? Can you honestly tell me you'd pick TT over Cam Newton (who has less wins/worse winning percentage)?

I would take Cam, but the Broncos don't have that option. Their option was Tebow or go with Orton and maybe go 4-12 again. They chose Tebow and he has done well. Until last game he did not make many throwing mistakes but he needs to work on that or he won't be a QB much longer.

I am a Bears fan and Orton is horrid at times, absolutely horrid. The Broncos made the right call in getting rid of him. Now, they need to get TT to improve or go another direction.

At least we agree that Flacco isn't that great.

 

[Adrenaline]

When he's not winning... he's losing! There is something to be said for that, it's called mediocrity.

If you don't win, you lose. No team has gone undefeated lately.

 

[a123456]

I would take Cam, but the Broncos don't have that option. Their option was Tebow or go with Orton and maybe go 4-12 again. They chose Tebow and he has done well. Until last game he did not make many throwing mistakes but he needs to work on that or he won't be a QB much longer.

I am a Bears fan and Orton is horrid at times, absolutely horrid. The Broncos made the right call in getting rid of him. Now, they need to get TT to improve or go another direction.

At least we agree that Flacco isn't that great.

It kind of depends on the team philosophy. There's the Indy method where they stink really hard during a good draft to pick up Manning and now Luck and then make deep playoff runs most of the other years. Then, there's the Seattle Seahawks philosophy to play just well enough to get around 6-9 wins >80% of the time in the last 30 years so they always end up with a middle to late 1st round pick but never really contend except once for a SB.

This year is almost the same thing they've done every year. So-so QB in Tavaris Jackson who wins a few games to shoot to middle of the draft but no SB chance at all.

No one knows how much he'll improve but I could easily see Tebow winning ~6-9 games next season and barely missing the playoffs if the Chargers get a new coach and can play up to their potential. Then, they'd be in the same situation. No chance at a top 5 pick but no realistic chance at a SB.

John Skelton and Alex Smith do nothing but win but are hardly franchise QBs. If SF somehow gets to the SB, Smith isn't going to elevate suddenly to a top 5 QB. He'll still be average but an okay game manager even if his W-L this year is elite.

 

[angminas]

The poster before me asked for QBs who have .700+ records and I named them...not really an attack there is it?

No, it isn't. As I thought about that later, I realized I had jumped the gun, so I apologize. It's just irritating listening to some people talk about sports like they're a bunch of drunken seventh-graders. Reminds me of the scene on the troop ship in Band of Brothers.

Elway inherited a mess, and Tebow got thrown right in the middle of it. They've done a great job with what they had, and people should have respect for that, even if Tebow is probably never going to be a great pro quarterback.

 

[SSSnail]

The whole point of the Teblow phenomenon is this - some of you ignoramuses are elevating him to greatness even though he clearly is not.

Your very own arguments are contradicting your reasons to worship him. Stop it, it's embarrassing.

Bottom line is, he's a very mediocre QB that should never have gotten the attention that he did. Yes, his stats for this season (circumstantially) may look better than some second or third strings QB, but don't for one second mistaken that for talent.

 

[gorcorps]

TT has done nothing but win so far. He needs to work on his throwing motion, yes, but he has done well.

So his losses are just being swept under the rug in your mind? You could say the exact same thing about anybody. It's actually such a horrifyingly ignorant statement that I believe you're just trolling... so on to the ignore list you go.

 

[Adrenaline]

So his losses are just being swept under the rug in your mind? You could say the exact same thing about anybody. It's actually such a horrifyingly ignorant statement that I believe you're just trolling... so on to the ignore list you go.

What a joke of a reply. You produce nothing in your reply and act like a child.

Anyways, TT has three losses this year and all three of those opponents have scored 40+ points (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/den/denver-broncos). TT needs some work, he isn't an AWESOME AMAZING OUTSTANDING QB, although he does need some work. Denver's defense has stepped up lately.

His record stands at 7-3 in the NFL this year and that is a winning record, no matter how you look at it. Prorate that out to a full season and it is 11-5 which is respectable. I view that as winning in the NFL. Only one team has gone undefeated in the NFL and TT will not guide a team undefeated.

TT is a decent QB, not a great one. He is better than what they had before. Orton was 12-21 as Denver's starting QB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Orton). If you want to win, TT is the best QB the Broncos had available. They can draft another QB for next season or give him one more year to see how it goes.

 

[SSSnail]

Not enough to deserve his own freaking thread and every other blurb about football, or front page news, and THAT, is the point that the rational football fans are trying to make.

 

[Adrenaline]

Not enough to deserve his own freaking thread and every other blurb about football, or front page news, and THAT, is the point that the rational football fans are trying to make.

I can agree with this. Unfortunately, someone did make a thread though. He also has his own billboards from fans as well, so go figure.

 

[dmcowen674]

Broncos in the playoffs yet?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Broncos in the playoffs yet?

They'll get knocked out in the first round. Mark my words.