Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: aphex
I find it amazing that the right now gives a shit what Obama says? Wow.
Obama saying anything is a bad idea IMO. Its not our fight and were stuck dealing with whoever wins, so its best to stay out of it for now.
Of course we give a shit what he says. Are you stupid? If Obama was calling for the killing of all Mexicans in the United States- We should just sit back and allow it because who are we to give a shit what Obama says?
That's nice. Hell! Even those right wing Republicans with half a brain have figured out that Obama has it right. Brainless loudmouth partisan hacks like Chambliss and sellout political whores like McCain can spout all they want about how Obama should take a strong official stance in support of Iranian voters and against the theocratic regime, but even serious Republicans with real international experience like
Henry Kissinger and Sen. Richard Lugar, the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee approve of Obama's actions.
KISSINGER: Well, you know, I was a McCain supporter and ? but I think the president has handled this well. Anything that the United States says that puts us totally behind one of the contenders, behind Mousavi, would be a handicap for that person. And I think it?s the proper position to take that the people of Iran have to make that decision.
Of course, we have to state our fundamental convictions of freedom of speech, free elections, and I don?t see how President Obama could say less than he has, and even that is considered intolerable meddling. He has, after all, carefully stayed away from saying things that seem to support one side or the other. And I think it was the right thing to do because public support for the opposition would only be used by the ? by Ahmadinejad ? if I can ever learn his name properly ? against Mousavi.
Watch it:
Kissinger isn?t the only prominent conservative to push back against McCain and the neocons. On Tuesday, Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN), the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, said that ?for us to become heavily involved in the election at this point is to give the clergy an opportunity to have an enemy?and to use us, really, to retain their power.? Other Republican senators, including Sens. Mel Martinez (R-FL), Bob Corker (R-TN) and John Thune (R-SD), agree that Obama is handling the situation well.[/quote]
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I swear to god the left in this forum is getting dumber by the second. Go back to the Apple forum.
Aww... Did they laugh you off of the Apple forum? :laugh:
What would you have Obama do? If the preferred eventual outcome is that the Iranian people can throw out Ahmadinejad and the theocratic regime, your choice is that Obama should throw a public hissy fit denoucing the current regime, thereby giving the mullahs a visible external false target, now and for years to come, or that he maintains an "official" position of support for the Iranian people without endorsing any political group.
The question for partisan blowhards like you is, do you want to keep spewing your bullshit talking points
du jour against Obama, or do you want him, in his official capacity as President of the United States, to speak and act in responsible ways that offer a far better chance of accomplishing YOUR stated objectives?
P.S. Swearing to your imaginary ooga booga deity, or swearing at theirs, won't help.