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Iron Woode

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How would you know though? I haven't had a low sugar 'attack' yet, but I imagine I'd be in a panic and want to down some sugar instead of passing out and not try to mess around and monitor my levels. So I'm just going on what they said in the classes, drink a coke if you feel like you're going to pass out because that's what'll get in your bloodstream the fastest.

Did you see that new Freestyle meter? I never seen something like that before. It attaches to your elbow and monitors your glucose for 24 hours for 15 days.
You can feel it pretty easily. Self testing only takes a minute. If it happens to you just don't panic. It's good to know what your reading is when it happens because you will remember it.

I am used to it now so it doesn't scare me anymore.

The meter I use is this one:

https://www.accu-chek.ca/en/meter-systems/guide
 

Iron Woode

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metformin is not healthy, and of course you added a extra pill so bottom out. What kinda test was 4.3? AIC? because glucose test ranges are 20-1000 (below 60 and above 300 usually have some side effects dizzy etc) 4.3 sounds like you would be in a coma, maybe it was 43 with a caution to 50 and below.
A meter is an instant test. A1C is an average over 3 months.
 

killster1

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A meter is an instant test. A1C is an average over 3 months.

You are on a different setting we do the glucose number not the 4.3 mg/dL number, you can change the settings..

from what i see..
  • 4.3 mmol/L = 77.48 mg/dL
does that mean your bg was 77? not sure but it wasnt dangerously low imo, BUT it wouldnt be a good time to take a nap after taking pills to lower your blood sugar..
 
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whm1974

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You are on a different setting we do the glucose number not the 4.3 mg/dL number, you can change the settings..

from what i see..
  • 4.3 mmol/L = 77.48 mg/dL
does that mean your bg was 77? not sure but it wasnt dangerously low imo, BUT it wouldnt be a good time to take a nap after taking pills to lower your blood sugar..
At 77 you would advised to go and eat something.
 

killster1

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At 77 you would advised to go and eat something.

You are a DR? the only problem is the medicine, if 77 its totally fine, if below 70 and on 2 different types of powerful meds then you should adjust your dosage of the once a day to 5mg from 10 or 10 from 20.. etc.
 

Iron Woode

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You are a DR? the only problem is the medicine, if 77 its totally fine, if below 70 and on 2 different types of powerful meds then you should adjust your dosage of the once a day to 5mg from 10 or 10 from 20.. etc.
normal is between 6 and 7. It is also required if driving transport truck.

Below 5 is the danger zone. That doesn't mean you will die. It just means you need to do something about it. If you start hitting the 3's or lower then you have a serious problem.

Metformin will not lower your glucose below 5. Metformin is a safe drug. Diamacron is more powerful and can lower you glucose to unsafe levels. Used together they can help those who are not getting enough benefit from metformin alone, ie: me. That is why I self test.

My dosage is 1 diamacron 30mg with 2 500mg metformin in the morning and 2 500mg metformin at the evening meal.
 

WelshBloke

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At 77 you would advised to go and eat something.

Yeah, I'd get him to eat something at 4.3mmol/l. Also check it again soon to make sure its going up not down!

4.3 isnt dangerously low, there was someone on the ward with 2.2 the other day! That involved Glucagon injections, VRII, and confiscating their insulin pen!

That said mild hypoglycemia on your own is probably worse than a severe one when theres others around to fix it!

Good job on keeping a close eye on it though OP!
 

Iron Woode

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Yeah, I'd get him to eat something at 4.3mmol/l. Also check it again soon to make sure its going up not down!

4.3 isnt dangerously low, there was someone on the ward with 2.2 the other day! That involved Glucagon injections, VRII, and confiscating their insulin pen!

That said mild hypoglycemia on your own is probably worse than a severe one when theres others around to fix it!

Good job on keeping a close eye on it though OP!
Thanks. It's all part of living with diabetes.

I was fine after 10 minutes of drinking some orange juice and having a late lunch.
 

killster1

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Thanks. It's all part of living with diabetes.

I was fine after 10 minutes of drinking some orange juice and having a late lunch.

Ok i guess you wont take the advice of diet and exercise, cutting the pills out eventually when you lose enough weight. Of course metformin can cause dangerously low blood glucose by it self but would require exercise and a low carb diet. If you are type 1 then low blood sugar is a problem. If you are type 2 then you are taking to many meds, but if you like to eat unhealthy i suppose pills is the only route.
 

WelshBloke

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Thanks. It's all part of living with diabetes.

I was fine after 10 minutes of drinking some orange juice and having a late lunch.

On the plus side running low has much less gruesome problems than running high all the time!
 

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Ok i guess you wont take the advice of diet and exercise, cutting the pills out eventually when you lose enough weight. Of course metformin can cause dangerously low blood glucose by it self but would require exercise and a low carb diet. If you are type 1 then low blood sugar is a problem. If you are type 2 then you are taking to many meds, but if you like to eat unhealthy i suppose pills is the only route.

I think the low carb is really the key, if you don't intake that much in you're not going to make your glucose rise.

Exercise as in walking/treadmill really lowers it, but it's a temporary fix. I actually got my A1C from 9.2 to 6.2 doing what you said, but for some reason my glucose levels are high when I wake up.
 

Iron Woode

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I think the low carb is really the key, if you don't intake that much in you're not going to make your glucose rise.

Exercise as in walking/treadmill really lowers it, but it's a temporary fix. I actually got my A1C from 9.2 to 6.2 doing what you said, but for some reason my glucose levels are high when I wake up.
your liver produces glucose especially when you are sleeping.
 

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Ok i guess you wont take the advice of diet and exercise, cutting the pills out eventually when you lose enough weight. Of course metformin can cause dangerously low blood glucose by it self but would require exercise and a low carb diet. If you are type 1 then low blood sugar is a problem. If you are type 2 then you are taking to many meds, but if you like to eat unhealthy i suppose pills is the only route.
Dude, I'm 130 LB and I still have to take metformin and glipicide for type 2.
 

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Dude, I'm 130 LB and I still have to take metformin and glipicide for type 2.

you are on a strict diet, exercise and still need to take 2 different types of medication to survive? What happens if you dont take it? bg levels in 200+?
 

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The last time I didn't take my meds for two days, my bg reached 330.

thats pretty high, but you didnt mention diet and exercise. I have seen people eat healthy and have skyrocketing BG but they had a huge belly and many other health problems as well. Simply knowing a weight doesnt say alot, what about like BMI height female ? male? a 5 foot female would be overweight at 130 (most likely)
 

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thats pretty high, but you didnt mention diet and exercise. I have seen people eat healthy and have skyrocketing BG but they had a huge belly and many other health problems as well. Simply knowing a weight doesnt say alot, what about like BMI height female ? male? a 5 foot female would be overweight at 130 (most likely)
I'm 5'5" and skinny. And I started a exercise program a few weeks ago. My diet while not strict, is more or less healthy.
 

killster1

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I'm 5'5" and skinny. And I started a exercise program a few weeks ago. My diet while not strict, is more or less healthy.


healthy depending who you ask. i personally have never seen a skinny diabetic, according to statistics only 10% with type 2 are not obese. Im sure timing and digestion will play a role in what your glucose levels get to as well as exercise / diet. Do you have a six pack? abs visibly showing? (my definition of skinny)
 

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healthy depending who you ask. i personally have never seen a skinny diabetic, according to statistics only 10% with type 2 are not obese. Im sure timing and digestion will play a role in what your glucose levels get to as well as exercise / diet. Do you have a six pack? abs visibly showing? (my definition of skinny)
Well we skinny diabetics do exist even if you never seen us or not.
 
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killster1

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Well we skinny diabetics do exist even if you never seen us or not.


failed to say if you have abs showing.. and i did say statistics say 10% are not obese.. I guess you dont want to share your diet or fitness level to prove the pills are required.
 

whm1974

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failed to say if you have abs showing.. and i did say statistics say 10% are not obese.. I guess you dont want to share your diet or fitness level to prove the pills are required.
Why would my abs need to be showing in order to be skinny? My diet? Well I try to consume a wide variety of foods and avoid packaged/processed foods. I also eat eggs, butter on potatoes, and whole grains.

Happy now?
 

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Why would my abs need to be showing in order to be skinny? My diet? Well I try to consume a wide variety of foods and avoid packaged/processed foods. I also eat eggs, butter on potatoes, and whole grains.

Happy now?

its just my part of my definition of skinny, it seems you have a different definition. i am 6'3 235 pounds and have visible abs but am not even close to skinny, so you are 130 and no abs but are skinny? wide variety of foods! butter on potatoes? nope not happy. what kinda ratio carbs fat protein. how many calories a day do you consume?


Whole grains are good and avoiding packages but really sounds like you are not even trying that hard, cough cough the reason for pills (the easy way).
 

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healthy depending who you ask. i personally have never seen a skinny diabetic, according to statistics only 10% with type 2 are not obese. Im sure timing and digestion will play a role in what your glucose levels get to as well as exercise / diet. Do you have a six pack? abs visibly showing? (my definition of skinny)

Why would someone want to hide their abs?
 

whm1974

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its just my part of my definition of skinny, it seems you have a different definition. i am 6'3 235 pounds and have visible abs but am not even close to skinny, so you are 130 and no abs but are skinny? wide variety of foods! butter on potatoes? nope not happy. what kinda ratio carbs fat protein. how many calories a day do you consume?


Whole grains are good and avoiding packages but really sounds like you are not even trying that hard, cough cough the reason for pills (the easy way).
Dude, I'm doing what my doctor told me to do, take my meds, get some exercise, and watch what I eat. I think you taking this to extremes.
 
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