School cop body-slams 6th grade girl to floor

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waggy

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All of you saying she's a 12 year old girl she's weak etc have no idea what you are talking about.

I've heard of two instances involving a 14 year old girl that was 4'11" and 90 pounds knocking out and severely injuring a 6' male. Said 14 year old also repeatedly hit repeatedly hit teacher causing swelling and brusing above the eye.

Age and weight doesn't effect the possibility of vicious actions.

agreed. I don't buy the argument that since she was 12 he shouldn't protect himself. they can and been reports of them hurting cops.

but did you watch the video? the cop had and she wasn't escaping or in a position to pull a weapon. he could/should have walked her out. I see no reason for the very shitty slam.
 

Sonikku

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Was perhaps excessive but can't make a firm judgment without unedited video.
 

Subyman

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Unless she had a gun or a knife, I don't see the purpose of heavy handed violence toward a child. Adults should be an example to children, not just stronger children.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Ah yes. Same old same old, eh garfield? Ever fought with a 100 lb kid bent on doing damage? Clearly not. But after all, think of children!

And to wrap it up let's craft a cute little straw man argument.

Wait. You're right. This is young, healthy kid. It's time we start tasing the little jerks. Go be a special snowflake elsewhere.

You are free to explain the cops actions.

Care to show any PD regs or guidelines that recommend body slamming kids on concrete floors?
 

GarfieldtheCat

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yea you are the one of the top 5 bigots on this board. congrats.

Don't think so, but nice try. Some people don't like being called out for racism, bigotry and other things.

Make stupid comments, expect to have to justify them or face the fallout. Simple as that. No one is forcing people here to admit to shitty opinions, or admit to racism, bigotry or other things.
 

woolfe9998

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According to several articles, the cop intervened because he believed the girl was going to start fighting with another girl. But the girl had thrown no punches. It had been a verbal altercation up to that point. The girl claims - though could be lying - that she just wanted to talk to the other girl. Either way there was no fight to break up, at least not yet. Based on that, I'm not sure any level of force was justified. And even if so, I can't see why that body slam was remotely necessary.
 

Linux23

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No kicking in the nads seen. Officer was not justified at all in slamming the kid even if she was resisting. Easier to just turn around and just drag her.

Coming from someone too scared to call the police when someone is blocking their driveway with their car is funny.
You're an idiot. You bring up a thread where I let the guy park there for a few days because I didn't want to act like a 70 yr old senile cooter with a gun in his hand yelling "get off my land!"

So what he parked partially in my driveway. Big deal. How does that make me a coward?

I swear these forums are like high school except only with keyboard cowards.

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umbrella39

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Hard to tell... terrible vert video filmed with a pinecone. She may have been biting his hand/wrist...
 

DrPizza

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Police acting as resource officers in schools need special training for physical restraints that are more appropriate. Seems a simple basket wrap would have been more appropriate and given the officer complete control over the girl.
 

Darwin333

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EDIT- just watched it again, after the slam cuffs go on, she stands up and she walks out without any resisting. The slam was excessive yes, NO QUESTION, but it gained the compliance the cop needed to control the situation.

So could hitting her in the back of the head with the butt of his gun and knocking her out for a minute or two. Doesn't make it something we should accept. I would bet a years pay that I could have controlled that girl, gotten cuffs on her, and got her to wherever he was bringing her without resorting to that sort of violence. If he can't twist a 12 year old girls arm behind her back, which gains compliance really quick, then he has no business whatsoever being a cop. What the hell is he going to do when he encounters someone who is as big, or bigger, then him?
 

Darwin333

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No one ever seems to think that way. Shit happens, usually very quickly. I know what I would do in a situation like that, from experience. Do you? Remember, you have 1-3 seconds to think it through, decide and act. Good luck.

What would have happened in 1-3 seconds had he not bodyslammed her? She should still easily be under his control. If he can't at least grab her arm to keep her from running and then twist it behind her back, if he doesn't have the strength to do that to a 12 year old girl then he shouldn't be a cop. Seriously, what is the worst case going through his mind? He might get slapped by this small young girl? I agree that there are times when cops do have to make snap decisions but I do not agree that this was one of those times.
 

MajinCry

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It's like there's some...Placebo effect?

Lads are making it sound like the police officer is handling an overly aggressive liger, rather than a god damn girl.
 

Pulsar

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Don't think so, but nice try. Some people don't like being called out for racism, bigotry and other things.

Make stupid comments, expect to have to justify them or face the fallout. Simple as that. No one is forcing people here to admit to shitty opinions, or admit to racism, bigotry or other things.

No one needs to admit to anything. People like you quickly prove their bigotry and hatred through their actions.
 

Exophase

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It's fuckin' mind boggling. They keep saying that the girl was resisting, that she was being violent. She was bloody dangling her limbs for Christ's sake.

I don't know what you saw but it was clear to me that she was trying to get free. That's resisting. What do you think resisting means? It doesn't mean she was being violent.
 

MajinCry

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I don't know what you saw but it was clear to me that she was trying to get free. That's resisting. What do you think resisting means? It doesn't mean she was being violent.

Dude. As I said before, her limbs were barely even nudging the guy. Operating procedure for police officers shouldn't be "I felt a small bit of pressure from her arm, so I slammed her into the ground".

What's the term for this?

Ah yes, draconian.
 

MajinCry

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No one needs to admit to anything. People like you quickly prove their bigotry and hatred through their actions.

...You mean how he doesn't defend a fully grown man slamming a young lass into the ground, because her arms dangled?

Yeah, that's bigoted. Sure. Alright.


Bloody hell.
 

Pulsar

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...You mean how he doesn't defend a fully grown man slamming a young lass into the ground, because her arms dangled?

Yeah, that's bigoted. Sure. Alright.

Bloody hell.

Not at all. From what I've seen so far, this police officer is going to be in trouble.

But dear 'ol Garfield has a serious hard-on for cops. It goes beyond anything reasonable - he spends far more time worrying about cops here than anything else. He also consistently tries to apply individual examples to the group as a whole - i.e. making comments like "just a few bad apples".

He's a shit stirrer, and a hater, and he if applied his tactics to jews, or palistinians, or arabs, or blacks he'd be called out regularly as a bigot / racist / biased.

That kind of non-thinking one-sided constant bullshit turns off every person who likes to use their brain - or it pisses them off because they see him for what he is. *shrug*

The worst part of it, if you ask me, is that if he went after jews, or arabs, etc he's only going after folks who are mostly innocent. In this case, with cops he's going after people who willingly put their ass on the line on a regular basis to protect us and uphold the law. Is there a problem? Yep. Is he really trying to get anything positive out of his ongoing crusade to constant smear all cops with his broad brush? Nope.
 
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Exophase

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Dude. As I said before, her limbs were barely even nudging the guy. Operating procedure for police officers shouldn't be "I felt a small bit of pressure from her arm, so I slammed her into the ground".

What's the term for this?

Ah yes, draconian.

Just because she was resisting doesn't mean the body slam was warranted. I don't know how much clearer I can make this. If you don't think she was resisting then you have no idea what resisting means.
 

waggy

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Police acting as resource officers in schools need special training for physical restraints that are more appropriate. Seems a simple basket wrap would have been more appropriate and given the officer complete control over the girl.

he had control over her. on one side he had her arm in a "chicken wing" type move. that arm wasn't doing shit.

The other arm of his was around her. He could have easily walked her out. I see no reason to slam her.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Not at all. From what I've seen so far, this police officer is going to be in trouble.

But dear 'ol Garfield has a serious hard-on for cops. It goes beyond anything reasonable - he spends far more time worrying about cops here than anything else. He also consistently tries to apply individual examples to the group as a whole - i.e. making comments like "just a few bad apples".

He's a shit stirrer, and a hater, and he if applied his tactics to jews, or palistinians, or arabs, or blacks he'd be called out regularly as a bigot / racist / biased.

That kind of non-thinking one-sided constant bullshit turns off every person who likes to use their brain - or it pisses them off because they see him for what he is. *shrug*

The worst part of it, if you ask me, is that if he went after jews, or arabs, etc he's only going after folks who are mostly innocent. In this case, with cops he's going after people who willingly put their ass on the line on a regular basis to protect us and uphold the law. Is there a problem? Yep. Is he really trying to get anything positive out of his ongoing crusade to constant smear all cops with his broad brush? Nope.

Spot on post!!
 

Pipeline 1010

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Not at all. From what I've seen so far, this police officer is going to be in trouble.

But dear 'ol Garfield has a serious hard-on for cops. It goes beyond anything reasonable - he spends far more time worrying about cops here than anything else.

When cops do wrong, they are rarely punished. Besides politicians and bankers, cops rank pretty high on the list of untouchable unaccountably. I think it is completely reasonable to spend time discussing this issue this until it is fixed.

He also consistently tries to apply individual examples to the group as a whole - i.e. making comments like "just a few bad apples".

The "just a few bad apples" comment comes directly from the cops and their apologists. You can thank those guys for coining this unintentionally ironic as fuck terminology.

He's a shit stirrer, and a hater, and he if applied his tactics to jews, or palistinians, or arabs, or blacks he'd be called out regularly as a bigot / racist / biased.

Disliking a group of people who CHOSE TO BE IN THAT GROUP and are allowed a double standard is not "shit stirring" or "hating". And all the groups that you just listed are groups that one doesn't get to choose. You don't get to choose to be black. You DO get to choose to be part of a group that punishes snitches, backs each other no matter how evil they are, and actively campaigns governments to get special rights and privileges that nobody else gets. Your analogy is shit.

The worst part of it, if you ask me, is that if he went after jews, or arabs, etc he's only going after folks who are mostly innocent.

He isn't going after a genetic group. He seems to be actively against a group of people who think they should be allowed to break the very laws they enforce. That kind of group fucking sucks.

In this case, with cops he's going after people who willingly put their ass on the line on a regular basis to protect us and uphold the law.

It is irrelevant what you do if you choose to break the law. If you actively campaign to get special rights that other people don't get. If you are part of a group that ostracizes members who try to uphold the law against one of its own. Besides gangs, which other group on Earth does this so consistently, efficiently, and brutally than cops?

Is there a problem? Yep.

OK cool. Let's talk about fixing it. Or perhaps we can try your tactic and shit on people who want to talk about fixing it and call them haters and mention Jews and Palestinians and blacks. Your tactic seems like the asshole "STFU and don't fix the problem" tactic.

Is he really trying to get anything positive out of his ongoing crusade to constant smear all cops with his broad brush? Nope.

If the cops wanted to solve the corruption problem, they could. It is ON THEM. They have already solved the "snitch" problem many times over. When are they going to stand the fuck up against corruption within their ranks? When? Until then, expect people to focus/obsess on the shit, and expect them to be RIGHT.
 

MajinCry

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It's the typical out-of-sight out-of-mind, shoot the messenger nonsense. You're the problem for bringing it up, because now people feel icky that there's horrid shit going on.

It's peculiar. Calling someone a bigot because they call out bigots...Uuh, something ain't right there.
 
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