Originally posted by: Anubis
I'd like to hear how you think a shirt saying "Homosexuality is Shameful" is inciting harm against a group.
Isn't it obvious? By wearing that shirt, you certainly arn't trying to make homosexuals feel fantastic are you? No, you're not.
The statement is intended to be hurtful towards homosexuals - You yanks are so ridiculous sometimes.
Nice generalization. Way to fvck your argument. Give me your nationality I'm sure I could make a generalization of my own.
That being said,
NuclearNed, are you being intentionally dense? If a muslim citizen wore a shirt that said Christ was a false prophet and Jihad is coming do you think it would be appropriate or should he be asked to remove it?[/quote]
No, I am not being dense. As I am a Christian, I would probably be offended to some degree and I would definitely disagree with him. But as an American, it is his right to have that opinion even though others feel strongly against it. Freedom of speech has little to do with popularity. New ideas are rarely popular. Socrates was put to death for his unpopular beliefs. Galileo was ostrasized because he expressed ideas that were contrary to common knowledge. At one time people believed that African Americans were somehow inferior, but someone had the courage to express ideas that were contrary to the mainstream. Even Jesus was killed because what he was saying was 180 degrees different from what the ruling religious authority was preaching.[/quote]
Freedom of speech is NOT about the right to spread hate. The founding fathers didn't have it in their heads the idea that you should be able to say whatever you want, wherever you want, about whoever you want.
Otherwise, we wouldn't have libel and slander laws, would we?
Another example: you are not allowed to say you are going to harm the president, even in jest.
Freedom of speech is NOT absolute, never has been, and never will be. Get over it.[/quote]
something that says "homosexuality is shamefull" does not advocate hate[/quote]
What does it advocate then?[/quote]
someones closed minded view of things that is all
if i wore my bad religion shirt with a big red X through the cross, is that advocateing hate? NO not even a view on that one its just a band[/quote]
That's not what I'm asking. Wearing the shirt is not just, wearing that shirt, like you just wearing the Bad Religion shirt was just, wearing a shirt with a big red X through it. Don't get me wrong, I like Bad Relgion.