School me on air fryers

[Exterous]

Wait, so how many do you have at the moment?

Let's just say he's a very specific type of hoarder

 

[sdifox]

What's up with Amazon on this? They have a marketing practice with a logo saying 'Amazon's Choice', then "for", then the category, like "Amazon's choice for convection ovens'".

But for this, it says "Amazon's choice for "cuisinart tob-260n1" ". What the heck? Their choice for the best "cuisinart tob-260n1" is the "cuisinart tob-260n1" ?

apparently they cannot find anything good to say about it

 

[ponyo]

I wish I could taste the food cooked from an air fryer. I haven't bought one because I'm not convinced it's better than an oven.

 

[sdifox]

I wish I could taste the food cooked from an air fryer. I haven't bought one because I'm not convinced it's better than an oven.

it's not.

 

[nakedfrog]

Fries cooked in a convection oven are definitely better than in a regular oven.
They get the cheese bubbling and browning on a pizza in a way that you don't with a regular oven.

 

[brianmanahan]

Wait, so how many do you have at the moment?

3 of them

wait no actually 2, i gave one away to someone whose ultravection finally gave out

 

[WelshBloke]

A convection oven is just a fan oven yeah?

Where the fuck are you guys buying non fan ovens these days? 1958?

 

[sdifox]

A convection oven is just a fan oven yeah?

Where the fuck are you guys buying non fan ovens these days? 1958?

They had to dig them out of a landfill.

 

[nakedfrog]

A convection oven is just a fan oven yeah?

Where the fuck are you guys buying non fan ovens these days? 1958?

Yes, it is.
I don't know if you've caught onto this, but there's a pretty decent chunk of America that's stupid and backwards.

 

[WelshBloke]

Yes, it is.
I don't know if you've caught onto this, but there's a pretty decent chunk of America that's stupid and backwards.

I thought that Americans liked their technology?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I imagine there's a lot to do with a large portion of our population being poor, and the "up-sell" on a lot of convection equipment. An awful, basic full size stove can be had new for $300-$400, sometimes even less. Convection costs far more full size.

We have a Toaster Oven, but it's just been old reliable (the Panasonic Infrared Toaster Oven). No Air Fryer capabilities. But we have a full size Wolf range that we use for that duty. We use the Toaster oven far more than the Oven though because we tend to cook for dinner, and then leftovers and standard breakfast for the other meals, which the toaster oven takes care of with a lot less fuss.

 

[Kaido]

In a nutshell:

1. "Air fryer" is fancy marketing for "tiny plug-in oven that heats up fast & uses a high-speed fan to do convection baking". Not that even convection baking is largely a gimmick for home bakers, as recipes designed to be used in an oven tend to get worse with a fan, unless the recipe in question specifically calls for convection baking.
2. They heat up pretty quick because they're small
3. Most of them are noisy & smoky & a bit of a pain to clean
4. They do not fry. At all. It's simply hi-speed convection baking in a small space. It doesn't even mimic frying.
5. Recipes must be adjusted to compensate for the smaller size (tends to dry stuff out & overheat foods) so you don't overcook them or dry them out.

However:

1. They're pretty good for reheating frozen stuff like chicken nuggets, fish sticks, etc.
2. If you practice, you can get recipes down pretty good. I make pretty good naked wings in mine.
3. Big ones are available. I have a Breville Smart Oven Air, which is countertop oven-sized. The new Anova Precision Oven can do the trick too. Some full-sized ovens now offer airfrying (again, simply high-speed convection baking) as an option.

If you do a lot of frozen foods that you want to crisp up, or are willing to tinker with recipes to get them "just right" to work with them, they're not bad machines to have. Sort of like a microwave but for crispy (not fried).

 

[WelshBloke]

I think that im happier spending more on a full sized oven that does everything rather than buying a bunch of cheap things that do one job.

 

[Exterous]

I thought that Americans liked their technology?

1) we like individual gadgets to do things esp if they are internet connected. Gotta have my Bluetooth toilet paper holder to warn me when the roll is getting low (which also gets hacked in a year spewing all your toilet paper onto the floor while DDoSing Netflix)
2) our mass produced housing focues on fancy looking but cheaply built finishes and appliances

 

[nakedfrog]

1) we like individual gadgets to do things esp if they are internet connected. Gotta have my Bluetooth toilet paper holder to warn me when the roll is getting low (which also gets hacked in a year spewing all your toilet paper onto the floor while DDoSing Netflix)
2) our mass produced housing focues on fancy looking but cheaply built finishes and appliances

Yeah, the house I'm renting now is the first I've ever been in with a convection oven. The two houses I bought didn't have them, and neither did any of the other places I rented.

 

[WelshBloke]

Yeah, the house I'm renting now is the first I've ever been in with a convection oven. The two houses I bought didn't have them, and neither did any of the other places I rented.

I think over here because the housing stock is generally older builds people rip out the old kitchens when they move in and put one of their own in.

 

[Kaido]

Yeah, the house I'm renting now is the first I've ever been in with a convection oven. The two houses I bought didn't have them, and neither did any of the other places I rented.

For doing American-style baking, convection should never be used, unless the recipe specifically calls for it (which is like never lol):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1006238007362547712

More info on convection in general:

These 8 Countertop Ovens Can Toast, Broil, Bake, Air-Fry, and More

Countertop ovens are versatile and space-saving kitchen gadgets. We tested the best models, with products ranging from energy-saving to splurge-worthy.

www.myrecipes.com

So you kind of have:

1. A regular oven
2. A convection oven (meh, unless you're specifically using recipes that call for convection)
3. An air fryer, which is simply a convection oven with a higher-speed fan
4. A toaster oven, which is just a smaller oven that heats up quick for doing things like toast

Which one you use depends on what you want to cook!

 

[WelshBloke]

So you kind of have:

1. A regular oven
2. A convection oven (meh, unless you're specifically using recipes that call for convection)
3. An air fryer, which is simply a convection oven with a higher-speed fan
4. A toaster oven, which is just a smaller oven that heats up quick for doing things like toast

Which one you use depends on what you want to cook!

Mine does steam as well.

 

[Kaido]

Mine does steam as well.

Is it incremental degrees of steam, like 30%, or is it discrete, like 1% or 17%?

 

[WelshBloke]

Is it incremental degrees of steam, like 30%, or is it discrete, like 1% or 17%?

Not going to lie, I dont use the steam setting often so I'm not that up on it. If I use it I use it with one of the presets.

Its a neff steam oven.

Edit. Maybe one of these...

Steam Ovens & Compact Steam Ovens

NEFF steam appliances to enhance your dishes. Built-in steam ovens and compact steam ovens. View our range of NEFF steam appliances

www.neff-home.com

 

[nakedfrog]

I think over here because the housing stock is generally older builds people rip out the old kitchens when they move in and put one of their own in.

The kitchen in this place was definitely redone in the recent past, the others the last kitchen re-do was probably some time in the 60s-80s.

For doing American-style baking, convection should never be used, unless the recipe specifically calls for it (which is like never lol):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1006238007362547712

More info on convection in general:

These 8 Countertop Ovens Can Toast, Broil, Bake, Air-Fry, and More

Countertop ovens are versatile and space-saving kitchen gadgets. We tested the best models, with products ranging from energy-saving to splurge-worthy.

www.myrecipes.com

So you kind of have:

1. A regular oven
2. A convection oven (meh, unless you're specifically using recipes that call for convection)
3. An air fryer, which is simply a convection oven with a higher-speed fan
4. A toaster oven, which is just a smaller oven that heats up quick for doing things like toast

Which one you use depends on what you want to cook!

I had to click the link to see that you explicitly meant baking as in "baked goods", and not using convection for stuff like cakes and biscuits seems like a "duh" to me.
Like if I'm making breaded chicken in the oven, I'd still call that baking, and it definitely benefits from convection. I'd already done my research on it before I moved here because I was planning to get a convection toaster oven, which I've done. No sense heating up an entire oven if you're cooking up a single serving. Especially in the summer.

 

[zinfamous]

Not going to lie, I dont use the steam setting often so I'm not that up on it. If I use it I use it with one of the presets.

Its a neff steam oven.

Edit. Maybe one of these...

Steam Ovens & Compact Steam Ovens

NEFF steam appliances to enhance your dishes. Built-in steam ovens and compact steam ovens. View our range of NEFF steam appliances

www.neff-home.com

Nef!

 

[WelshBloke]

The kitchen in this place was definitely redone in the recent past, the others the last kitchen re-do was probably some time in the 60s-80s.

I had to click the link to see that you explicitly meant baking as in "baked goods", and not using convection for stuff like cakes and biscuits seems like a "duh" to me.
Like if I'm making breaded chicken in the oven, I'd still call that baking, and it definitely benefits from convection. I'd already done my research on it before I moved here because I was planning to get a convection toaster oven, which I've done. No sense heating up an entire oven if you're cooking up a single serving. Especially in the summer.

Convection is pretty for roasting.

 

[sdifox]

Not going to lie, I dont use the steam setting often so I'm not that up on it. If I use it I use it with one of the presets.

Its a neff steam oven.

Edit. Maybe one of these...

Steam Ovens & Compact Steam Ovens

NEFF steam appliances to enhance your dishes. Built-in steam ovens and compact steam ovens. View our range of NEFF steam appliances

www.neff-home.com

Woah, we can nef and cook?

 

[nakedfrog]

Convection is pretty for roasting.

Forgot a word, did you? Kind of a weird sentence otherwise.