They did way more than that, and it clearly had lasting value as shown by our performance vs. other industrialized nations.
OK. They didn't do anything which affects the vast majority of people and little of lasting value if anything. They did the equivalent of give a one time 2k spending account in lieu of doing anything substantial. Like I said would that have made you happy if that was the sum total of the ACA? I think not.
Me be honest? Libs proved 2 months in their focus was not jobs but healthcare. I know better than to keep debating this with you.
So the dems are left trying to plug two giant holes in a sinking ship with the reps doing nothing but picking at their hands because the ship captain is also a water salesman... and you're going to complain about the dems not doing enough about one hole over the other?
Maybe it's because if they focused any less then absolutely nothing would have been done.
What? Don't want to test the limits of your own denial? Afraid the whole thing will come tumbling down & that smug right wing certainty along with it?
Repubs proved early on that their focus was on stopping anything Dems wanted & on serving the true Bush constituency. Jobs? Their idea of jobs was cutting spending to force more layoffs & trickle down tax breaks for job creators who were already laying off people in droves. Their idea of assistance was to hold extended UI hostage to those same tax breaks & cut spending on entitlements. Their idea of healthcare reform was shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic because the true Bush constituency has no problem obtaining healthcare at all.
If Schumer is right today, why did they say such ideas were wrong back then when they counted?
Oh, wait... they'd have to admit that they were wrong before to be credible to reasonable people, but their raving base isn't that at all.
Jeebus on a bike, another "yeah those Republicans". It's all about them.
You had your ass handed to you, Schumer explains a key reason, and the Dems decide to channel Rush Limbaugh.
Saying lalala schumer said so doesn't make the republican's disservice go away no matter how much you want it to.
Saying lalala schumer said so doesn't make the republican's disservice go away no matter how much you want it to.
You may not know but I shredded Bush over a decade ago when the a republicans were what you are becoming now, even as the current president protects what he did. You can't tell me a thing about the Reps I don't know but I'll tell you something I told them then. While you close ranks and deny your faults or divert from them, the voters will kick you to the curb. You won't believe that because you are where they were a dozen years ago. It's like a chronic cycle of denial and Democrats are blind. Good luck.
They did way more than that, and it clearly had lasting value as shown by our performance vs. other industrialized nations.
Well I'm glad we have a thriving and growing middle class with increasing job security and income. I haven't seen that backed up. Can you link to how well the middle class is doing compared to the last 20 years or so? That's awesome news.
Well put.
Without Government, people would be free to make employer and employee relationships.And not passing Obamacare would help how in this regard? Let's me guess, people who risk losing health care if they get laid off are more desperate and thus desirable employees.
Except no better alternative solution to Obamacare has been passed out of the House since GOP has controlled it since 2010. All they have proposed is a repeal and a politician's promise that they'll come up with a better alternative. 5 years of opposition failing to come up with a better alternative speaks pretty loud and clear about the merits of something. If I as an engineer come up with a product that the competition has no substantive answer to for half a decade except FUD and trying to block it from the market, I have done my job.
Without Government, people would be free to make employer and employee relationships.
They would determine their own wages.
This is how it has always been, prior to government.
-John
Democratic Health Plan: Trust Obama.
-John
Democrat health plans:
Medicaid
Medicare
Exchange plans and subsidies
Ban on discrimination on pre-existing conditions
Etc, etc.
GOP health plans:
...
A politician's promise to do pass something if you repeal some of the above
And not passing Obamacare would help how in this regard? Let's me guess, people who risk losing health care if they get laid off are more desperate and thus desirable employees.
Remember, they are only Dem plans when good things are said about them, otherwise they are originally Repub plans.
Yes, Democrats do have very conservative minds. You can't even see it. My condolences.
What Obama is doing, is socializing Government. Seeking Communism.
He wants it that everyone is on the Government tit. and that no one has free will.
-John
When Dems decided that healthcare was the most important thing on the agenda even when reports of 10.2% unemployment were coming in, stopping the Dems sure seems like the right thing to do. Schumer back then thought no matter what the Dems did they would come out smelling like a rose. The elections showed they had the presidency and both chambers of congress. They were wrong of course.
So dishonest. Repubs opposed the stimulus in 2009, almost to a man-
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/14/us/politics/14web-stim.html?_r=0
When Dems wanted extended UI benefits for all the people the Job Creators had laid off, Repubs whined that it would add to the deficit, even as they insisted on keeping fat cat tax cuts that increased the deficit even more-
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...ng-the-needy-hostage-on-unemployment-benefits
Repubs have opposed every jobs bill Dems have proposed, including the most recent, but there adherents have the temerity to place blame when Schumer says Dems could have done more. Schumer may be right, but that doesn't change the fact that Repubs have been wrong every inch of the way & are still wrong today-
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07...obs-blocking-bill-outsourcing-tax-breaks.html