Scientist who believes in God!

[Rob9874]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Rob9874
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html

Who cares? Lots of scientists say they believe in god.

 

[FoBoT]

that is pretty common

 

[So]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
that is pretty common

Indeed. Scientist believes in god and takes an allegorical view of the bible. Pretty damn common.

 

[JS80]

So, some have asked, doesn't your brain explode?

I think if he said asplode, we would all be ROFLing and speculating which ATOT member he is.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Rob9874
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html

Who cares? Lots of scientists say they believe in god.

OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

 

[Flyback]

Some of the comments on CNN article are completely laughable:

James Lampert, Fountain Valley, California
The best case of all for the existence of a supreme being is in the very laws of physics: the fact that physics HAS laws, and that those laws are knowable, internally consistent, and elegant.

:laugh:

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: Flyback
Some of the comments on CNN article are completely laughable:

James Lampert, Fountain Valley, California
The best case of all for the existence of a supreme being is in the very laws of physics: the fact that physics HAS laws, and that those laws are knowable, internally consistent, and elegant.

:laugh:

I'm not saying that's a great comment or anything, but I don't see the funny.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Rob9874
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html

Who cares? Lots of scientists say they believe in god.

OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Don't you think atheists "decided for themselves" in the first place? Just like an atheist would say that you just pay attention to anything that supports YOUR blind faith that there is a god, they already heard mountains of so-called "evidence" by various partisan groups and DID decide for themselves. You're pretending that you're not proselytizing when that's exactly what you're doing.

There are plenty of smart people with well reasoned arguments who are atheists, and there is a similar number who are not. Then there is a large mass of people who just believe what they were raised to believe. You aren't going to convince anyone on an internet forum so stop spamming it.

/rant.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Rob9874
OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Heh, and you've firmly planted the flag stating which side of the argument YOU'RE on.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Rob9874
OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Heh, and you've firmly planted the flag stating which side of the argument YOU'RE on.

 

[Vic]

Yep. Collins did an interview for National Geo mag a few months ago. It was quite good. IIRC, I posted about it here and recommended it.
I suppose it would be nice if the world really was black-and-white simple, but it really isn't.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Rob9874
OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Heh, and you've firmly planted the flag stating which side of the argument YOU'RE on.

Why are "sides" always required? There's far more to politics than just Democrats and Republicans, and there's far more to belief than just pseudoscientific atheism and fundamentalist Christianity.

 

[KoopaTroopa]

Originally posted by: So

OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Don't you think atheists "decided for themselves" in the first place? Just like an atheist would say that you just pay attention to anything that supports YOUR blind faith that there is a god, they already heard mountains of so-called "evidence" by various partisan groups and DID decide for themselves. You're pretending that you're not proselytizing when that's exactly what you're doing.

There are plenty of smart people with well reasoned arguments who are atheists, and there is a similar number who are not. Then there is a large mass of people who just believe what they were raised to believe. You aren't going to convince anyone on an internet forum so stop spamming it.

/rant.[/quote]

this is the most intelligent thing i have read on ATOT in a while. i agree, and all the super fundies and the crazy atheists who want to duke it out should take heed of this before going nuts on each other on the internet.

 

[redgtxdi]

Billy Graham once said.........

"In all the years of my life, I have yet to meet a REAL atheist."




Wonder what he meant by that??

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: Rob9874
Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

The hypocrisy and douchebaggery are strong in this one. That or my sarcasm meter doesn't read high enough.

Do people like you INTEND to start religious flamewars? Or are you really ignorant enough to think people won't be offended by the things you say?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Billy Graham once said.........

"In all the years of my life, I have yet to meet a REAL atheist."




Wonder what he meant by that??

<Mythbusters>Not there's your problem</Mythbusters>

 

[So]

Originally posted by: KoopaTroopa

Originally posted by: So

OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Don't you think atheists "decided for themselves" in the first place? Just like an atheist would say that you just pay attention to anything that supports YOUR blind faith that there is a god, they already heard mountains of so-called "evidence" by various partisan groups and DID decide for themselves. You're pretending that you're not proselytizing when that's exactly what you're doing.

There are plenty of smart people with well reasoned arguments who are atheists, and there is a similar number who are not. Then there is a large mass of people who just believe what they were raised to believe. You aren't going to convince anyone on an internet forum so stop spamming it.

/rant.

this is the most intelligent thing i have read on ATOT in a while. i agree, and all the super fundies and the crazy atheists who want to duke it out should take heed of this before going nuts on each other on the internet.[/quote]

Thank you kindly, good sir. :beer:

 

[Fritzo]

He shares my views on God. God isn't a being that controls our lives on the day to day basis...he is what runs the universe. God is essentially physics in my view.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
He shares my views on God. God isn't a being that controls our lives on the day to day basis...he is what runs the universe. God is essentially physics in my view.

Why can't more people accept this belief?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Rob9874
OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Heh, and you've firmly planted the flag stating which side of the argument YOU'RE on.

Why are "sides" always required? There's far more to politics than just Democrats and Republicans, and there's far more to belief than just pseudoscientific atheism and fundamentalist Christianity.

Don't ask me, I didn't make up the rules. I just found humor in the way he fingered the rabid atheists in a confrontational manner, seemingly ignorant of the fact that any faith in god's existence either way is blind faith.
Unless one of those clever bastards at MIT whipped up a Godometer and nobody told me.

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: Rob9874
OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

LOL!!!

I believe that was quite tongue-in-cheek, though I find it completely hilarious to see such a comment get pounced on when it's the exact statement IN REVERSE that all the athies throw out when arguing AGAINST God.

(Capital 'G', just for good measure!)

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Most of us scientists believe in God. We just spell it 'n' 'a' 't' 'u' 'r' 'e'.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Rob9874
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html

Who cares? Lots of scientists say they believe in god.

OK, so I didn't put much explanation behind it. This is a new commentary, from cnn.com's main page today, by Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., the director of the Human Genome Project. A pretty prominent scientist, who actually presents an intellectual argument against atheism in his book. Of course the atheists here aren't interested. They're not interested in hearing both sides and deciding for themselves. They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

:laugh:

Who's the one with blind faith again?

 

[SampSon]

Scientists who believe in god are far more common than you think.
Greg Graffin, the lead singer of Bad Relgion, covered this topic extensively in his PhD papers and also in the Cornell Evolution Project.

There have been many articles on the internet about this, covering information obtained from the polling of various scienists from a range of scientific disciplines.
I'm guessing that the OP hasn't taken the time to do any sort of research on the topic before creating a thread here that is only intended to bash athiests.
This thread and discussion would go so much further if the OP was, I dunno, able and willing?

They just pay attention to anything that supports their blind faith that there is no God.

Pot to Kettle... Are you really dim enough to make such a openly hypocritical statement?