Scientists aim to bring mammoth back to life

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Mammoths, which went extinct about 10,000 years ago, may once again walk the Earth.
A team of researchers will attempt to resurrect the species using cloning technologies after obtaining tissue this summer from the carcass of a mammoth preserved in a Russian mammoth research laboratory. It has already established a technique to extract DNA from frozen cells.


"Preparations to realize this goal have been made," said Prof. Akira Iritani, leader of the team and a professor emeritus of Kyoto University.
Under the plan, the nuclei of mammoth cells will be inserted into an elephant's egg cells from which the nuclei have been removed to create an embryo containing mammoth genes.


The embryo will then be inserted into an elephant's womb in the hope that the animal will give birth to a baby mammoth.
Researchers from Kinki University's Graduate School of Biology-Oriented Science and Technology began the study in 1997.
On three occasions, the team obtained mammoth skin and muscle tissue excavated in good condition from the permafrost in Siberia.
However, most nuclei in the cells were damaged by ice crystals and were unusable. The plan to clone a mammoth was abandoned.
In 2008, Dr. Teruhiko Wakayama of Kobe's Riken Center for Developmental Biology succeeded in cloning a mouse from the cells of mouse that had been kept in deep-freeze for 16 years. The achievement was the first in the world.


Based on Wakayama's techniques, Iritani's team devised a technique to extract the nuclei of eggs--only 2 percent to 3 percent are in good condition--without damaging them.
Last spring, the team invited Minoru Miyashita, a professor of Kinki University who was once head of Osaka's Tennoji Zoo, to participate in the project.
Miyashita asked zoos across the nation to donate elephant egg cells when their female elephants died.
The team also invited the head of the Russian mammoth research laboratory and two U.S. African elephant researchers as guest professors to the university. The research became a joint effort by Japan, Russia and the United States.


If a cloned mammoth embryo can be created, Miyashita and the U.S. researchers, who are experts in animal in vitro fertilization, will be responsible for transplanting the embryo into an African elephant.
The team said if everything goes as planned, a mammoth will be born in five to six years.


"If a cloned embryo can be created, we need to discuss, before transplanting it into the womb, how to breed [the mammoth] and whether to display it to the public," Iritani said. "After the mammoth is born, we'll examine its ecology and genes to study why the species became extinct and other factors."


http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-scientists-aim-mammoth-life.html
 

Jeff7

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The embryo will then be inserted into an elephant's womb in the hope that the animal will give birth to a baby mammoth.
A virgin birth of a member of an long-extinct species.

Yeah, this is definitely going to result in a new elephant religion.
 

geno

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Jurassic Park cloning is pure science fiction.


But is it really so far removed from the story in the OP? Use DNA from an extinct species and work it into the current closest living relative to achieve an offspring?
 

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My understanding is that there are a lot more difficulties with it compared to mammoth cloning. For example dinosaurs have been extinct much longer, so finding an in-tact DNA sample is near impossible. Dinosaurs are all bone and rock by now, you're not going to find one anything close to in-tact frozen in tundra like you can with mammoths. And even if you could find a partial sample (again, nearly impossible after tens of millions of years), filling in missing pieces with DNA from another species like in the movie would not do the trick. Plus I didn't think dinosaurs have a closely related surrogate suitable for implanting DNA like mammoths do with elephants.

Based on our current technologies and understanding, it's pretty far fetched from what I've read.
 
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yhelothar

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My understanding is that there are a lot more difficulties with it compared to mammoth cloning. For example dinosaurs have been extinct much longer, so finding an in-tact DNA sample is near impossible. Dinosaurs are all bone and rock by now, you're not going to find one anything close to in-tact frozen in tundra like you can with mammoths. And even if you could find a partial sample (again, nearly impossible after tens of millions of years), filling in missing pieces with DNA from another species like in the movie would not do the trick. Plus I didn't think dinosaurs have a closely related surrogate suitable for implanting DNA like mammoths do with elephants.

Based on our current technologies and understanding, it's pretty far fetched from what I've read.

What about the Jurrassic Park approach? Prehistoric mosquito that's been mummified in amber. Would the white blood cells of the dinos retain a good copy of the dino's DNA?

EDIT: Nevermind, I did some googling and found my answer pretty quickly. No, DNA does not get preserved in fossilized amber.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1004_051004_spider_blood_2.html
 
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What about the Jurrassic Park approach? Prehistoric mosquito that's been mummified in amber. Would the white blood cells of the dinos retain a good copy of the dino's DNA?

Even if that were the case, wouldn't it be corrupted from the years of being inside the mosquito? Just think how bad the raptors would be if they had mosquito DNA....
 

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My understanding is that there are a lot more difficulties with it compared to mammoth cloning. For example dinosaurs have been extinct much longer, so finding an in-tact DNA sample is near impossible. Dinosaurs are all bone and rock by now, you're not going to find one anything close to in-tact frozen in tundra like you can with mammoths. And even if you could find a partial sample (again, nearly impossible after tens of millions of years), filling in missing pieces with DNA from another species like in the movie would not do the trick. Plus I didn't think dinosaurs have a closely related surrogate suitable for implanting DNA like mammoths do with elephants.

Based on our current technologies and understanding, it's pretty far fetched from what I've read.

 

Gibsons

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My understanding is that there are a lot more difficulties with it compared to mammoth cloning. For example dinosaurs have been extinct much longer, so finding an in-tact DNA sample is near impossible. Dinosaurs are all bone and rock by now, you're not going to find one anything close to in-tact frozen in tundra like you can with mammoths. And even if you could find a partial sample (again, nearly impossible after tens of millions of years), filling in missing pieces with DNA from another species like in the movie would not do the trick. Plus I didn't think dinosaurs have a closely related surrogate suitable for implanting DNA like mammoths do with elephants.

Based on our current technologies and understanding, it's pretty far fetched from what I've read.
Yes, very far fetched.

One big issue, maybe the biggest, is that there is always some background radiation. Even very low levels from the surrounding soil are going to be a problem over millions of years. The damage accumulates as there's no repair mechanism.

Beyond that, those things are just old. Imagine some mutation event that will happen say, once per 100,000 bp of DNA every 10,000 years. Maybe too slow for us to observe right now, I'd have to think about it... That's a hundred or so mutations in the mammoth, maybe not a big deal depending on just what this hypothetical mutation is. But it's over a 100,000 for a dino. Seems like a lot.
 

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This week: Mammoths!!


Next Week: Smilodons...... (...to eat the Mammoths, OFC)
 

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A virgin birth of a member of an long-extinct species.

Yeah, this is definitely going to result in a new elephant religion.

All hail Woolly Ganesh!

 

silverpig

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My understanding is that there are a lot more difficulties with it compared to mammoth cloning. For example dinosaurs have been extinct much longer, so finding an in-tact DNA sample is near impossible. Dinosaurs are all bone and rock by now, you're not going to find one anything close to in-tact frozen in tundra like you can with mammoths. And even if you could find a partial sample (again, nearly impossible after tens of millions of years), filling in missing pieces with DNA from another species like in the movie would not do the trick. Plus I didn't think dinosaurs have a closely related surrogate suitable for implanting DNA like mammoths do with elephants.

Based on our current technologies and understanding, it's pretty far fetched from what I've read.

Uh, dinosaurs don't shit out a live baby like elephants do. They laid eggs. You could probably get by with a chicken egg for the smaller ones. Jesusraptors could probably hatch from an ostrich egg. Size-wize anyways.
 
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