Scientists Not So Sure 'Doomsday Machine' Won't Destroy World

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fskimospy

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Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: TheDoc9

Wake up and think for yourself, don't believe in God, do whatever you want, but at least think before writing down such a perfect contradiction.

In any case, when did creating BLACK HOLES become ok? I think it's safe to say this is a bit different then the idea of a nuke maybe igniting the atmosphere. I think we can all agree that black holes destroy everything, the beauty of this is that they will be created here, and no one knows the outcome after that. This is stated in the LHC's own press releases.

Stephen Hawking has never had one of his theory's proven correctly and until we create a black hole like he wants, he'll never have the chance to prove them. He's had a hard life and maybe he might just have a death wish because of these things.

In all, finding higs particles and proving some mans obsession is not worth the risk of 6 billion lives.

Where's the contradiction? I live in a world with millions of nuclear weapons targeted at my head but I'm going to get all wound up about black holes? I don't think it's me not doing the thinking. You retards are walking around in your sleep, a well placed insult away from mutually assured destruction, and I'm not thinking?

Classic moonbean, no argument so make fun of the poster.

Sorry, but your post deserved to be made fun of. Please read up more on the LHC from reputable sources.
 

TheDoc9

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: TheDoc9

Wake up and think for yourself, don't believe in God, do whatever you want, but at least think before writing down such a perfect contradiction.

In any case, when did creating BLACK HOLES become ok? I think it's safe to say this is a bit different then the idea of a nuke maybe igniting the atmosphere. I think we can all agree that black holes destroy everything, the beauty of this is that they will be created here, and no one knows the outcome after that. This is stated in the LHC's own press releases.

Stephen Hawking has never had one of his theory's proven correctly and until we create a black hole like he wants, he'll never have the chance to prove them. He's had a hard life and maybe he might just have a death wish because of these things.

In all, finding higs particles and proving some mans obsession is not worth the risk of 6 billion lives.

Where's the contradiction? I live in a world with millions of nuclear weapons targeted at my head but I'm going to get all wound up about black holes? I don't think it's me not doing the thinking. You retards are walking around in your sleep, a well placed insult away from mutually assured destruction, and I'm not thinking?

Classic moonbean, no argument so make fun of the poster.

Sorry, but your post deserved to be made fun of. Please read up more on the LHC from reputable sources.

besides the lhc itself, just don't try ok.
 

TheDoc9

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whats so funny is I could provide links, from the lhc press releases (look them up for yourself). But you guys will still justify your side of the argument because you believe so strongly of how right you are.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The same stupid kinds of ideas were around when the first atomic bomb was exploded and we see now how totally safe those are.

Relax, the worst that can happen is they will figure out how everything works and no longer need to believe in a God.

And anything that takes you before you can have a single thought can't be all bad.

Wake up and think for yourself, don't believe in God, do whatever you want, but at least think before writing down such a perfect contradiction.

In any case, when did creating BLACK HOLES become ok? I think it's safe to say this is a bit different then the idea of a nuke maybe igniting the atmosphere. I think we can all agree that black holes destroy everything, the beauty of this is that they will be created here, and no one knows the outcome after that. This is stated in the LHC's own press releases.

Stephen Hawking has never had one of his theory's proven correctly and until we create a black hole like he wants, he'll never have the chance to prove them. He's had a hard life and maybe he might just have a death wish because of these things.

In all, finding higs particles and proving some mans obsession is not worth the risk of 6 billion lives.

Where's the contradiction? I live in a world with millions of nuclear weapons targeted at my head but I'm going to get all wound up about black holes? I don't think it's me not doing the thinking. You retards are walking around in your sleep, a well placed insult away from mutually assured destruction, and I'm not thinking?

Classic moonbean, no argument so make fun of the poster.

Relax, Doc, that so called perfect contradiction you were complaining about was totally intentional. It was supposed to make your mind go 'Boing' and shift to a higher level.
 

Moonbeam

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Oh wait, by brain is waking up. I seem to remember something I read a few years back about the fact that cosmic rays enter our atmosphere all the time at far greater energies then the collider can make and if I'm not mistaken I haven't been eaten by a black hole yet.
 

Moonbeam

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I think what this is really all about is being powerless as a child while our parents locked us up in a black hole. No love has been able to escape us since then. We always get fubared by the powerful and now we don't trust anybody. We walk around already totally destroyed and project that fear out there.
 

CLite

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Uhm these three physicists don't even have PhD's unless Fox has forgotten how to properly address Dr's. So these graduates students (maybe not even that) claim the blackhole could last for about a second, far longer than previous predictions. That's great and all but doesn't change the fact that a microscopic blackhole lasting for even a few seconds would not amount to anything.
 

smokeyjoe

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Originally posted by: CLite
Uhm these three physicists don't even have PhD's unless Fox has forgotten how to properly address Dr's. So these graduates students (maybe not even that) claim the blackhole could last for about a second, far longer than previous predictions. That's great and all but doesn't change the fact that a microscopic blackhole lasting for even a few seconds would not amount to anything.

I don't know if they are really scientists or not, but I though it was funny that one of them was from the University of Bologna

And the artist conception is hilarious.. it looks like it's sucking in some galaxies! Of course, you wouldn't actually see the black hole
 

ericlp

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Who cares what Fox news "thinks"...

It won't stop progress. And if it's a threat to religion I'm more then for it.


 

jackschmittusa

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Not to worry. Even if they make a black hole, Microsoft will file a patent for it, then mess with the process enough that it will only be deliverable by email attachment.
 

jonks

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eh, who gives a crap, flip the damn switch. the jesus freaks welcome the end of the world anyway and the rest of us won't be around to complain about it. And fox arguing against scientific advancement isn't exactly shocking, though it is nice that they admit heliocentric theory isn't bunk.
 

SMOGZINN

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Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The same stupid kinds of ideas were around when the first atomic bomb was exploded and we see now how totally safe those are.

Relax, the worst that can happen is they will figure out how everything works and no longer need to believe in a God.

And anything that takes you before you can have a single thought can't be all bad.

Wake up and think for yourself, don't believe in God, do whatever you want, but at least think before writing down such a perfect contradiction.

In any case, when did creating BLACK HOLES become ok? I think it's safe to say this is a bit different then the idea of a nuke maybe igniting the atmosphere. I think we can all agree that black holes destroy everything, the beauty of this is that they will be created here, and no one knows the outcome after that. This is stated in the LHC's own press releases.

Stephen Hawking has never had one of his theory's proven correctly and until we create a black hole like he wants, he'll never have the chance to prove them. He's had a hard life and maybe he might just have a death wish because of these things.

In all, finding higs particles and proving some mans obsession is not worth the risk of 6 billion lives.

Creating BLACK HOLES became ok when we started to understand the math behind how they work. A sub-atomic sized black hole is harmless. Even if it stuck around for hours it would be harmless. At worst it will suck in a few atoms before dissolving. The concept of a stable sub-atomic black hole has been disproved.
The main doomsday fear of the LHC is that it could create strangelets. A form of strange matter that could transform other matter it touches into strange matter creating a run away ice-nine effect, and essentially turning earth and everything on it into strange matter. Strangelets are unproven, and even if they exist they would have to have a certian property that we are somewhat doubtfull of.
The odds of this occurring are so remote as to be considered unworthy of considering, mainly because the LHC does not increase the odds of this happening much more then the odds of it occurring when you dribble a basketball.
 

JTsyo

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Originally posted by: NaughtyGeek
I can't help but wonder why this dang thing has created so much controversy. I'm inclined to believe that there are scientific advances to be had from this machine that rich and powerful people aren't ready for us to have.

Note: Need more tin foil.

Reminds me of the movie Contact.

If black holes never lost mass, eventually the whole universe would collapse into one big black hole. If that was the case, I'm sure we could see evidence of movement towards the black holes in the center of galaxies.
 

James Bond

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Every time I read an article like this, I have this surreal vision of some other species discovering our planet, and reading articles like this, thinking "so... this was how it happened."

Then again. I'm sure if the black hole really did happen, there wouldn't be much evidence.

 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: James Bond
Every time I read an article like this, I have this surreal vision of some other species discovering our planet, and reading articles like this, thinking "so... this was how it happened."

Then again. I'm sure if the black hole really did happen, there wouldn't be much evidence.

Black holes actually make it impossible for any information to escape. All they would find is a black hole, indirectly of course.
 

Lemon law

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The planet earth and our solar system has been bombarded by even more high energy particles particles for some four and a half billion years. That micro black hole has not gotten us yet. but maybe tomorrow its going to happen. Lloyds of London will be loaded when we go.
 
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