The funny thing is conservatives don't want to ban sins they personally like to engage in like gluttony. Only sins other people engage in should be banned.
The funny thing is conservatives don't want to ban sins they personally like to engage in like gluttony. Only sins other people engage in should be banned.They want to punish the gays too dude. It's like if you hate the gays, don't be fucking gay. They just are bad hombres, rotten souls really.
I have heard a known conservative on NPR say how they truly felt that if gays could get married society would just fall apart. This was recently. And clearly it didn't happen and this person actually admitted they were totally wrong. The problem is that kind of thinking is a small minority of today's conservatives. Most of them are nuts.
The vaccine is in fact the mark of the beast and yes, it is microchipped. As predicted in revelation.
The election was rigged. He would have won by a landslide if dominion was honest but it's not. Now we have Biden in there who is just a puppet for the anti-christ, Barack Obama. Great job leftists. Now we have a guy who hates humanity in complete control over us. This is going be a really good year, I can feel it. But I blame both sides, not just the left wingers.
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Damn, the rest of you tempted me to take the crazy person off ignore just to see what on earth was getting all the responses. Curse you all for that! Not making that mistake again.
We had enough from this baboon. You think Republicans know what they are doing and Democrats don't. Well guess what... you are wrong.I'm already an adult, unlike yourself.
I'm not above admitting when I'm wrong name a thing or two if you are right I'll give you the win for that thing. But if you are keeping track, it's still 10 on 1 and I'm still winning.
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Imagine the spin when people actually start getting the Neuralink implants(first in 2022)… I mean, vaccinated AND chipped? These clowns are gonna lose their minds all over again.Damn, the rest of you tempted me to take the crazy person off ignore just to see what on earth was getting all the responses. Curse you all for that! Not making that mistake again.
I have no doubt that storm chaser would set a tray of embryos on fire in exchange for his most coveted firearm. Probably even just for a box or two of ammo.Imagine if this story was about a clinic accidently killing 4,000 breathing kids because they forgot to feed them. Just think what the response would be. Just think how you would personally feel.
The fact that literally no one felt that way about embryos is proof no one actually thinks they are little babies.
A Cleveland fertility clinic that lost 4,000 eggs and embryos just got hit with 2 more lawsuits | CNN
A freezer malfunction at an Ohio fertility clinic may have destroyed hundreds of patients' chances at having biological children. Now the deadline is looming for hundreds of patients to file claims.www.cnn.com
The thread about a Supreme Court case about abortion is not about abortion? What?I'd like to point out absolutely none of you can ever stay on topic. This thread is not about abortion. Its about the supreme court case. We've already had abortion threads. We've discussed it many many many times. We don't need to discuss it again. Its nothing new. Nobody ever brings up an original argument. We were talking about a potential supreme court ruling because that IS new, and every body went off topic, like they always do.
You need to stop debating abortion. Especially here. It never goes anywhere.
For that matter the gun debate never goes anywhere. But any time theres a specific issue or event in the news you people always start with the same old fuckin debate. Its never fresh and it never goes anywhere. I think this is why America cant solve any serious problems. People would rather argue than actually fix things.
It’s not like the Supreme Court cares about the law so why should we?
They want to punish the gays too dude. It's like if you hate the gays, don't be fucking gay. They just are bad hombres, rotten souls really.
I have heard a known conservative on NPR say how they truly felt that if gays could get married society would just fall apart. This was recently. And clearly it didn't happen and this person actually admitted they were totally wrong. The problem is that kind of thinking is a small minority of today's conservatives. Most of them are nuts.
Back in the term when gay marriage was legalized and they gutted the voting rights act Scalia argued in opinions within days of each other that the court had no right to question the wisdom of Congress when it came to gay marriage so the court must stay out and that Congress could not be trusted to legislate properly when it came to voting rights so the court must step in. There was not even a cursory attempt to reconcile these two positions.I don't think a lot of people have internalized this particular point. They're literally just doing whatever they want and making up thin, often blatantly contradictory reasons for their actions when they even deign to explain themselves. As a bonus they get angry when anybody frames their actions as the partisan, religiously biased, callous, and dismissive moves that they are.
Did you know it is neither illegal or immoral for a President to be Muslim? However being a fucking serial liar...The election was rigged. He would have won by a landslide if dominion was honest but it's not. Now we have Biden in there who is just a puppet for the anti-christ, Barack Obama. Great job leftists. Now we have a guy who hates humanity in complete control over us. This is going be a really good year, I can feel it. But I blame both sides, not just the left wingers.
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Why on earth would it matter if the right to life is dependent on a specific individual vs any individual? Why would that have any bearing on a person's right to life taking precedence over another person's bodily autonomy? Either you believe a person's right to their own body takes precedence over another individual's claim to it or you don't.
The fact that you are unwilling to take a firm stance on this makes it appear that you only believe men have a right to bodily autonomy, and not women, so you try to couch it as a special, unique case.
By child to you mean a person. At what point IYO does that occur? Conception? At x weeks?To put it in other words, a women choosing to abort her child is choosing to kill it, deprive it of the right to live. Or, murder, if you prefer. There is no obligation on the part of a person with kidney disease to expect a kidney be given by one specific person. The receiver of this kidney has no right to expect generosity from another person (though it is laudable to do so). There is an obvious obligation on the part of a fetus to 'expect' to receive care from one specific person, it's mother. I don't understand how this is not self evident to you. Our increased understanding of the biology of reproduction makes this even more clear than it ever has been in our history.
This is my understanding of human nature and human dignity, and yes it is dominated by the teachings of Christ and His church. The early church fathers had the benefit of being familiar with the writings of the great Greek philosophers concerning such things as virtues - something modern society is sorely lacking. The development of many of these teachings aren't just pulled out of the air, they have been carefully thought out and reflected on for two millennia. Somehow, all that knowledge is cast asunder by modern mankind, as, apparently, modern mankind is better in every way that the great teachers who have come before us.
Anyway, that's what I believe, even if it remains in opposition to your beliefs. Hence the battle that is being fought today.
Traditional Catholic teaching - at conception. Abortion was abhorrent and a sin against God and man simply on the basis that from the beginning, the embryo was considered to be a human being. We also believe that the embryo is co-created with with a couple and God, and thus has a soul, making the embryo a person, from it's first beginnings.By child to you mean a person. At what point IYO does that occur? Conception? At x weeks?
I have no faith whatsoever that this court would uphold Obergefell or not allow some similar stupidity like Texas has pulled with abortion. The social conservatives are going to push this as far as they can.
Traditional Catholic teaching - at conception. Abortion was abhorrent and a sin against God and man simply on the basis that from the beginning, the embryo was considered to be a human being. We also believe that the embryo is co-created with with a couple and God, and thus has a soul, making the embryo a person, from it's first beginnings.
Traditional Catholic teaching - at conception. Abortion was abhorrent and a sin against God and man simply on the basis that from the beginning, the embryo was considered to be a human being. We also believe that the embryo is co-created with with a couple and God, and thus has a soul, making the embryo a person, from it's first beginnings.
Who is going to stop them? Democrats? The voters? Both are too complacent to do anything about this.
I'd be down with banning gluttony. We could setup fat camps and force people to eat less and exorcise. Maybe put a device on them that gives them an electric shock every time they chew. We'd have a healthier nation, fewer people in the hospital, more food to give to poor people, longer life spans, fewer covid deaths. It's a win win all the way around.The funny thing is conservatives don't want to ban sins they personally like to engage in like gluttony. Only sins other people engage in should be banned.
Nothing can stop them. What happens after is the question. As the court is increasingly seen as little more than another partisan vehicle for things social conservatives want but popular opinion does not the consequences aren't knowable yet. Maybe voters will shrug or maybe they'll (correctly) blame Republicans for doing things they don't want. Maybe some of both.
Once of the more probable outcomes is ever increasing divergence between red and blue states with escalating legal and economic conflicts.
If we're going to start banning sins, we should probably start with greed. That'll fix a lot more problems.I'd be down with banning gluttony. We could setup fat camps and force people to eat less and exorcise. Maybe put a device on them that gives them an electric shock every time they chew. We'd have a healthier nation, fewer people in the hospital, more food to give to poor people, longer life spans, fewer covid deaths. It's a win win all the way around.
I don’t think that’s the question at all, that is a given. The question is how long will our slide take before we are no longer a democracy? A year? Five? Fifty? How quickly did Rome fall?