irishScott
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So from the current SCOTUS we've got gun rights and gay rights, now if they'd just rule against the NSA I'd throw a party!
This is interesting since there is no federal law which defines marriage. There was one but SCOTUS declared that unconstitutional (DOMA). My guess is now Marriage means nothing.
Darkest hours? Millions are now treated like human beings. Yet, this alarmist sees it as something dark, evil, malicious.“Today, it’s some of the darkest 24 hours in our nation’s history,”
Ah, don't like the direction and decision they took - so, get rid of it.“If we want to save some money, let’s just get rid of the court,”
SCOTUS didn't rule on ending your show Mr. Beck. But, in typical alarmist fashion, he dials up a notch and claims he will be hunted down."This could mean the end of radio broadcasts like mine," Beck warned. "I am on now public airwaves regulated by the federal government. If I say, or anybody on this show says they're for traditional marriage, which I am in my personal life ... that now puts this radio broadcast in jeopardy because we are on federally regulated airwaves. I will tell you that I am going to begin, today, looking for other vehicles besides the radio broadcast just so, in a two year period, should somebody start to mount this, what does that mean?"
Taking a cue from Jindal - shut it down. Who said Conservatives don't work well together!?I am saddened that the United States Supreme Court ruled as they did but this ruling does not invalidate Alabama Code Section 30-1-9, which states 'Marriage licenses may be issued by the judges of probate of the several counties.' The word 'may' provides probate judges with the option of whether or not to engage in the practice of issuing marriage licenses and I have chosen not to perform that function. My office discontinued issuing marriage licenses in February and I have no plans to put Pike County back into the marriage business. The policy of my office regarding marriage is no different today than it was yesterday.
Obey the law,... or leave. I hope she takes the latter - that way, she can avoid those lawsuits.“Many Americans will choose to follow God’s ways rather than this Court and they should suffer no penalty for doing so. The Court has flung open the gate to lawsuits from those pushing the gay agenda against those who disagree with same sex marriage.”
f Moses, Jesus, and contributors to the Bible were correct, God’s hand of protection will be withdrawn as future actions from external and internal forces will soon make clear. I will do all I can to prevent such harm, but I am gravely fearful that the stage has now been set.
Based on this old music video (1991) and even though it is a parody, it's not so far from the truth. And seeing the fleecing scene, be they social conservative politicians or talk show hosts with a mental illness, 24 years later, the rubes probably won't get tired of it.I love the fear mongering intended to make them more money or get more donations to their PACs from the rubes.
At some point you would think that even those who sincerely hold the beliefs these snake oil salesmen are playing to would get tired of being fleeced.
And Texas is following: http://nyti.ms/1JoLD12
Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas, a Republican, issued a directive to state agencies saying that employees should not be penalized for refusing to act in violation of their beliefs. No Texan is required by the Supreme Courts decision to act contrary to his or her religious beliefs regarding marriage, he said in a statement.
Now what are they going to march for?
Year after year, Louisiana didn't have enough money to cover its expenses, yet Gov. Bobby Jindal refused to roll back income tax cuts or ever-increasing corporate tax breaks. Instead, he raided reserve funds and sold off state property.
Jindal suggested job growth from his economic development wins would replenish those assets once the recession ended. It hasn't and money from the lucrative oil industry has taken a nose dive with crude prices. Now, the Republican is running out of short-term patches and is struggling to plug a $1.6 billion budget hole just as he tries to build support for a possible 2016 presidential run.
Funding for higher education and health care services will almost certainly be subject to cuts deeper than what they already have endured in recent years, and Jindal's successor will have to repay a string of debts and IOUs.
Now what are they going to march for?
Gay tolerance?
And right-wing legislators in some states - Texas, for example - have indicated that they're going to place legislative hurdles in front of same-sex couples who want to marry. Kind of like what they're doing with highly-restrictive laws on abortion clinics. The intent is to delay, delay, delay.
One hopes that same-sex couples seeking to marry in such states will be able to get quick injunctive relief, as the harm to couples waiting for challenges to such laws to get through the courts would be far greater than any harm to a state that was forced to allow same-sex marriages during that waiting period.
Simply put, right wingers will stoop to any level to deny "liberal" rights to others.
Christians aren't very tolerant people though so will be another uphill battle. As you can see by people's response to this ruling.
People who have hijacked the Church may not be so tolerant. The Bible is full of forgiveness, love thy neighbor and give people a chance. Even the Pope has spoken about tolerance and love is more important than hot button issues like gays & abortion. I'm too lazy to link to it however its been spoken about several times by him.
Yeah, I don't know if you noticed, but this particular pope is not exactly representative of Catholicism, Christianity, or the Clergy in general. I mean, it's unspeakably awesome, not to mention fun as hell watching all the Catholics freak out, but you say "even the pope" like he's not pretty much the most progressive part of the church at this point.
I love the fear mongering intended to make them more money or get more donations to their PACs from the rubes.
At some point you would think that even those who sincerely hold the beliefs these snake oil salesmen are playing to would get tired of being fleeced.
I disagree. I think he is a great representative of all. Well what the bible wants anyway. perhaps not the people who are in the church today.
Do you? I'm always curious if people who bring this point up are actually familiar with the 10 Commandments. Because not only are there a LOT of laws in the US that have absolutely no relation whatsoever to anything espoused in the 10 Commandments, there is also a hefty percentage of the 10 Commandments that are specifically AGAINST American law. To wit:
1. I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no other Gods before me; illegal to codify in US law, per the 1st Amendment.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image; illegal to codify in US law, per the 1st Amendment.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; illegal to codify in US law, per the 1st Amendment.
4. Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy; illegal to codify in US law, per the 1st Amendment.
5. Honor thy father and mother; not a US law, arguably unConstitutional per the 1st Amendment.
6. Thou shalt not commit murder; DEFINITELY A LAW! However, also a law in places that don't follow the 10 Commandments, so a little disingenuous to imply that US law is based on the 10 Commandments here. It's not like if the Bible never existed, we'd be hunky-dory with murdering each other. Benefit of the doubt, the Christians get this one.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery; not a US law, arguably unConstitutional, though definitely costly to people who do it based on alimony awards.
8. Thou shalt not steal; DEFINITELY A LAW! But, like with murder, this is one of those things that plenty of cultures thought of before the Bible came around to clarify things. But hey, we're running out and we're not doing so hot, so let's give Jesus this one.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor; DEFINITELY A LAW! And one that can mostly be traced back to the 10 Commandments, so well done!
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, wife, ass, etc; Not only is this not a law, it's specifically anti-Capitalist, which makes it unAmerican. Why on Earth would I be interested in buying a fancy watch or a bigger house unless I wanted to one-up my neighbor? Absurd.
OK, so the final tally is 30% of the 10 Commandments are ACTUAL LAWS in the United States, and it's generous to claim that any of them are laws solely because of their place in the Commandments list. That means 70% of the 10 Commandments aren't actually laws in the United States, five being specifically unConstitutional, and one being anti-Capitalist, which is arguably worse. So, fine, "a lot of our laws come from the 10 Commandments," but VASTLY more don't, and of the 10 Commandments themselves, only three of them actually pertain to any part of our legal system. How does that fit into your history lesson?
FWIW Hammurabis code covered most of those and is 1500 or so years older then the bible
This is what worries me.