I hope he keeps escalating. If gays have to wait a while to get married, but Moore gets removed and disbarred, it'll be worth it.The Alabama Supreme Court has just issued an order to probate judges to stop issuing marriage licenses to homosexual couples for 25 days.
It looks like Roy Moore and his GOP cronies on the court are going to drag this out as long as possible, kicking and screaming the entire way. Aside from inflicting further embarrassment on our state, he has effectively put a giant "Sue Me!" sign on the courthouse door. For a judiciary that is chronically underfunded and barely able to function, that is the last thing that our state needs.
Except the ones that do.Yea Christians believe none of that.
Any evidence of that or are you just pulling it out of your ass?Maybe fundamentalist Christians but they live in the middle of nowhere in the south anyway.
What difference does that make? Don't our votes for president wind up in the same ballot box?More of the same Southern vs Northern culture clashing on the internet when in reality you guys are separated by 1,000 miles.
What the fuck would you know about who I've met? My only point was that those people exist. How about you go ahead and fuck right off? Don't you have some more of your own embarrassing posts to edit and erase?Really got your panties in a bunch over people you've never met huh. Maybe take a break from the internet it seems to have addled your brain.
Yup, sounds like he's got your number too. The rest of us can always tell a bigot. We just can't tell him much.
Normal people can insist on a level of respectfulness on public streets without losing their minds as you certainly have. A level of excess is always to be expected when the lid comes off of centuries of repression and bigotry. You will want to revel in all the disgust you can stick your nose into while you can. In time the excessive behavior that results from being outcasts will pass as folk finally begin to feel accepted, no thanks to bigots like you.
ROFL! I seem to have hit a nerve. What makes you the one true arbiter of what is and is not acceptable? Sorry son, but your personal morality is not some law of nature. It's just the result of your lifelong puritan brainwashing. Your blend of hangups and quirks may work for you, but they are just as offensive to others as the Folsom Street antics are to you.
Different strokes for different folks, my friend. The people of San Francisco don't share your puritan idiosyncrasies. You have no right to try to force them into burkas.
I just wonder how pcgeek is so familiar with whatever antics take place during Gay Pride parades on Folsom St. if he hates them so much? Much too familiar to be explained by simple curiosity.
Burka is a metaphor. Your need to control behavior you find offensive is conceptually similar to ultra-conservative Muslims who dictate burkas. They are simply more extreme versions of you, finding bare ankles just as offensive as you find Folsom Street. In both cases, you have no right to force your morality on others. In both cases, the right answer is for you to not participate in behavior you find offensive. Let the SF community set its own standards, based on what they find appropriate, just as we don't let Muslim extremists set ours.Nope. No nerves hit. I just find that type of behaviour horrible.
Wow you must be really old if you can call me son.
I never mentioned anything about a Burka. That being said I do think that public sex acts are against the law. But for some insane reason the idiots out on the left coast ignore this law as they do so many others.
Burka is a metaphor. Your need to control behavior you find offensive is conceptually similar to ultra-conservative Muslims who dictate burkas. They are simply more extreme versions of you, finding bare ankles just as offensive as you find Folsom Street. In both cases, you have no right to force your morality on others. In both cases, the right answer is for you to not participate in behavior you find offensive. Let the SF community set its own standards, based on what they find appropriate, just as we don't let Muslim extremists set ours.
In short, focus on controlling your own life. You have no right to impose your personal morality on others. Consenting adults can make their own decisions without you.
You just stand there clutching your pearls while someone fetches the fainting couch for you.Well if you find Folsom Street not offensive, then you are just one sick puppy.
Well if you find Folsom Street not offensive, then you are just one sick puppy.
Is someone making you look?
"If you never encounter anything in your community that offends you, you're not living in a free society." Why do you hate freedom?Well if you find Folsom Street not offensive, then you are just one sick puppy.
You misspelled "straw man". How embarrassing.Burka is a metaphor. Your need to control behavior you find offensive is conceptually similar to ultra-conservative Muslims who dictate burkas. They are simply more extreme versions of you, finding bare ankles just as offensive as you find Folsom Street. In both cases, you have no right to force your morality on others. In both cases, the right answer is for you to not participate in behavior you find offensive. Let the SF community set its own standards, based on what they find appropriate, just as we don't let Muslim extremists set ours.
In short, focus on controlling your own life. You have no right to impose your personal morality on others. Consenting adults can make their own decisions without you.
Methinks you overestimate the GOP. I fully expect tons of Pubbies to run on overturning Obamacare and gay marriage. With zero intention of doing anything about either, thankfully.What I think is interesting is that a year and a half from now, about the time the 2016 general elections hit, this "issue" won't be much on the radar for the vast majority of Americans, no matter how much braying about how "horrible" it is. It'll become a non-issue for almost everyone by then, much to the chagrin of some.
Methinks you overestimate the GOP. I fully expect tons of Pubbies to run on overturning Obamacare and gay marriage. With zero intention of doing anything about either, thankfully.
Correct. Offensive is in the eye of the beholder. Your devotion to posting half-witted noise is offensive. If you instead typed your empty sloganeering into Notepad -- and then deleted it -- nobody would be offended. On the contrary, we would be happy.So if people do offensive things but there's no one around to see them they aren't offensive?
It's amusing that you, the king of straw man attacks, still doesn't know what the word means. Of course that's probably why you turn to them so consistently. You don't understand the concept of an honest argument.You misspelled "straw man". How embarrassing.
So if people do offensive things but there's no one around to see them they aren't offensive?
If people do offensive things but there's no one around to see them I'm not even sure if they technically happened. :hmm:So if people do offensive things but there's no one around to see them they aren't offensive?
Yup. A large number of Alabama counties are still not issuing licenses to same-sex couples, and a couple of counties have declared that they are out of the marriage license business period. This is an issue that still has legs in the primary and in many Southern districts - never mind that those legs will kick a politician's ass in the general, have to get through the primary first.You may be right. I just watched Ted Cruze on Morning Joe state that the decision was for that case. States & counties are free to keep denying. He did also state many courts will refer to this decision but the Court System is our right (these were not his exact words but a brief summary)
lol Yes, clearly I'm the one who doesn't understand the concept of an honest argument, whereas Mr. "You have no right to try to force them into burkas" is the epitome of honesty. That isn't a metaphor, and no one with any honesty, intelligence or integrity would even try to present it as such. It's a pure straw man, taking a concern about having people having sex in public and transforming it into an attempt to force those people into burkas so that you may attack that instead.It's amusing that you, the king of straw man attacks, still doesn't know what the word means. Of course that's probably why you turn to them so consistently. You don't understand the concept of an honest argument.
True.lol Yes, clearly I'm the one who doesn't understand the concept of an honest argument,
Thank you.whereas Mr. "You have no right to try to force them into burkas" is the epitome of honesty.
False. It was a metaphor, whether you can wrap that around the chip on your shoulder or not. In order for it to be a straw man, I would have to attempt to refute his alleged burka argument. I did not, not at all. My arguments consistently focused on his actual position, i.e., his need to control others -- specifically, jailing them -- based on his personal morality. The burka metaphor was literally the last sentence of my post, intended to highlight the parallels between his compulsion to control and the Taliban's. Again, it's no wonder you so consistently rely on straw man arguments when you cannot understand honest ones.That isn't a metaphor,
You shouldn't bloviate about areas in which you have so little experience.and no one with any honesty, intelligence or integrity would even try to present it as such.
metaphor - noun - a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicableIt's a pure straw man, taking a concern about having people having sex in public and transforming it into an attempt to force those people into burkas so that you may attack that instead.
Oops, good catch. While it's "the king of straw men doesn't," it is, indeed, "you don't." The word "you" was the subject. My bad.And while we're at it, it's "you don't", not "you doesn't".
Now the criticism is aimed towards "unelected judges."
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Seconded. :thumbsup:If you instead typed your empty sloganeering into Notepad -- and then deleted it -- nobody would be offended. On the contrary, we would be happy.
I've been here nine years and I've yet to see you use an honest argument about anything. Even when we're on the same side of an issue, I shudder at your "logic".True.
Thank you.
False. It was a metaphor, whether you can wrap that around the chip on your shoulder or not. In order for it to be a straw man, I would have to attempt to refute his alleged burka argument. I did not, not at all. My arguments consistently focused on his actual position, i.e., his need to control others -- specifically, jailing them -- based on his personal morality. The burka metaphor was literally the last sentence of my post, intended to highlight the parallels between his compulsion to control and the Taliban's. Again, it's no wonder you so consistently rely on straw man arguments when you cannot understand honest ones.
You shouldn't bloviate about areas in which you have so little experience.
metaphor - noun - a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable
Oops, good catch. While it's "the king of straw men doesn't," it is, indeed, "you don't." The word "you" was the subject. My bad.