SCOTUS rules: gay marriage approved

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senseamp

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So now we get to find out if all the slippery slope predictions, dogs marrying cats, etc, come true. Or alternatively, how full of sh!t Republicans making those predictions were.
 

waggy

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Thomas' dissent is fucking scary.



I generally like GHWB and think he did a great job as President, but the appointment of Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court is a stain on the country. I actively look forward to the day that he retires or passes away peacefully in bed.

yeah that's insane.
 
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Let me know when a homosexual couple gets to walk into a church and force it to marry them. Until then, this ruling and fiasco is about government bennies, nothing more. Glad to see its over with though. Congrats to the "winners."

I don't see people clamoring to have a same-sex marriage in an unwilling church or performed by an objecting religious leader. People just want the secular state to recognize their marriage and give them access to the same legal benefits that other married couples enjoined. Frankly, the argument seems like a strawman that anti-SSM people like to bring up in defense of their untenable position.
 

brycejones

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I don't see people clamoring to have a same-sex marriage in an unwilling church or performed by an objecting religious leader. People just want the secular state to recognize their marriage and give them access to the same legal benefits that other married couples enjoined. Frankly, the argument seems like a strawman that anti-SSM people like to bring up in defense of their untenable position.

It is. Although over time this will put pressure on churches to revisit their stances on the subject. As the gaypocolypse doesn't happen and the Earth keeps moving around the sun it will become harder and harder for churches who don't allow SSM to attract and retain members.
 

nageov3t

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Let me know when a homosexual couple gets to walk into a church and force it to marry them. Until then, this ruling and fiasco is about government bennies, nothing more. Glad to see its over with though. Congrats to the "winners."

that's not going to happen... the courts have pretty consistently upheld religious institutions rights to refuse to perform service on religious grounds (eg: a rabbi can't be forced to marry a neo-Nazi couple, a Catholic church can refuse to marry previously-divorced people, etc)
 

JockoJohnson

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This is good news. If it weren't for the religious fucknuts being so opposed to it, it wouldn't have had to go this far up the chain. The States would have passed it long ago.

The religious freaks need to have their influence removed as it just seems to oppose common sense and is a big thorn in the side of the GOP.
 

glenn1

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Good for everyone concerned including those who opposed SSM. Now they can start working on campaign themes that might actually help them win rather than continuing on with losing battles like SSM, objections to fair trade deals, and Obamacare.
 
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Normally I don't like to be a sore winner, but suck it, this was inevitable
And a gay couple having the ability to be legally recognized as a couple, and get the benefits therein will have zero impact on your life.

Meanwhile, to all my gay friends and family.
 

Mxylplyx

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This is good news. If it weren't for the religious fucknuts being so opposed to it, it wouldn't have had to go this far up the chain. The States would have passed it long ago.

The religious freaks need to have their influence removed as it just seems to oppose common sense and is a big thorn in the side of the GOP.

Just give it time. Social conservatism's only accomplishment throughout history is to delay the inevitable, and they are running out of lines in the sand to draw. Witches arent being burned anymore, slaves are free, state enforced segregation is illegal, women and blacks can vote, gays dont have to hide anymore, etc Their stranglehold over women's reproductive rights is one of their last bastions, but they'll eventually lose that too.
 

gorb

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This is great news. It shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
 

senseamp

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Conservatives are completely incapable of keeping up with the changes going on in our society. Still peddling trickle-down and bigotry.
 

SMOGZINN

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Good for everyone concerned including those who opposed SSM. Now they can start working on campaign themes that might actually help them win rather than continuing on with losing battles like SSM, objections to fair trade deals, and Obamacare.

Except of course that won't happen, instead they will double down on it. This election cycle will be all about how an injustice was done and if we elect them they will fix it. If there is anything that the right can count on it is that their constituents are dedicated to their bigtory and don't understand how their government works.
 

waggy

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hmm. one guy on TV said this changes NOTHING> it just says the FEDERAL govenment can't ban same sex marriage. the states still can

lol /facepalm
 

xBiffx

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hmm. one guy on TV said this changes NOTHING> it just says the FEDERAL govenment can't ban same sex marriage. the states still can

lol /facepalm

Since the court gave the "losers" time to fight the decision, I wouldn't be surprised to see this angle used if there is any fight left to be had. Heck, one of the justices practically made a roadmap for it by saying the decision has nothing to do with the constitution. Who knows if that really goes anywhere.

Fed has banned pot, yet states make it legal. Wish the SC would rule on that one.
 

Murloc

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wait, does this mean states are forced to recognize gay marriage all over the US?

Now that's a quick change.
I guess it's a new south africa-like change, 70% of people in SA still think gay sex (not just marriage!) is wrong, and yet the court legalised everything for gays because of their post-apartheid constitution. Law-makers would have never done that.

I don't know how it works in the US, but in my country if the federal constitution says something, states have to comply.
 
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SMOGZINN

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wait, does this mean states are forced to recognize gay marriage all over the US?
Yes. The decision was in two parts. It states that a state cannot ban same sex marriage, and that a state must recognise a marriage performed in any other state. That means that as of right now all states must recognise all SSM that was performed in any state, and that soon they will have to start licensing SSM in their state.

As of today Same Sex Marriage is just Marriage.
 

K1052

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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/2016-candidates-react-supreme-court-gay-marriage-ruling-119466.html

Some of the 2016 candidates have come to terms with the ruling but as expected the culture warriors are determined to go down with this ship.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who had warned that the legalization of same-sex marriage would lead to the “criminalization of Christianity,” wrote Friday that the country “must resist and reject judicial tyranny, not retreat,” in a statement on his website.

The ruling is about “marriage redefinition,” he wrote, adding that the “only outcome worse than this flawed, failed decision would be for the President and Congress, two co-equal branches of government, to surrender in the face of this out-of-control act of unconstitutional, judicial tyranny.”

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said the decision “will pave the way for an all out assault against the religious freedom rights of Christians who disagree with this decision.”
“This ruling must not be used as pretext by Washington to erode our right to religious liberty,” he added.

Rick Santorum cited the Dred Scott decision as an indicator that the Supreme Court has not had a perfect track record.

“Today, five unelected justices decided to redefine the foundational unit that binds together our society without public debate or input. Now is the people’s opportunity respond because the future of the institution of marriage is too important to not have a public debate,” Santorum said in a statement.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker would appear to disagree with that assessment, saying that “the only alternative left for the American people is to support an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to reaffirm the ability of the states to continue to define marriage.”
 
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Holy shit, the comments on fox's website... wow, just wow... They make this place seem sane and stable.
 

xBiffx

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Holy shit, the comments on fox's website... wow, just wow... They make this place seem sane and stable.

Kinda makes you wonder why people on here keep telling you and others they don't watch or read Fox News, huh? If the dipshit lefties and Fox haters in here would actually listen there wouldn't be anything really talking about that place.

But haters gonna hate and ragers gonnna rage. :|
 
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This is a step in the right direction of not hearing the republican candidates talk about gays and Christianity in their speeches every time. If we could do away with that it would be SOOOO awesome.
 
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