scratch off the little pad and use some paste?????

muffinman

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I've heard i'm supposed to scratch off the little pink pad on my heatsink/fan and use some paste for better heat transfer. Is that the case, and if so, what is the best thermal paste to use, and what is the best way to apply it,eg, on cpu and h/s or just a lil' on h/s, etc.......btw, my heatsink/fan is a coolermaster.
 

muffinman

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are u guys talking about the four little black round things on the perimeter of my athlon xp 1700 chip or the pink layer on the heat sink? also, how much is arctic silver....wouldn't i just need a small amount?
 

nortexoid

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like he said, if u're not overclocking hardcore, the pad will due just fine...

there's little difference between pad and paste, and even littler between generic paste and ASII
 

WarCon

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I simply can't share nortexoid's opinion on the differences between thermal compounds. Mind you if your not overclocking your processor then it should work just fine with the thermal pad. But realize you will most likely see temps over 50C regularly (maybe over 60C depending on the mobo and unless you have internal thermal diode support on the motherboard you really don't know whats going on inside for sure). I may be wrong, but I believe it is called thermal drift in the chips that actually is the aging factor for most (if not all) semiconductors. And from the simple conclusion that higher temps = shorter lifespans for your processors. You might want to reconsider the term good enough.

From my personal experience with thermal compounds (I did a thermal compound test several months back with my watercooled 1ghz, but that thread dissappeared so I can't point you too it). But I tested Nanotherm, Arctic Silver (ASII, Alumina, and several prototypes), and Radio Shack thermal compound. I did a stability and thermal test with my socket thermistor and a side thermistor. Even with inaccurate external thermistors you could see measurable differences (you have to properly apply and prepare the surfaces - I lapped between each compound to give the compounds the benefit of being the one that matters.) I had a variance of stability of 100mhz (thats a 10% overclock for a 1ghz chip) and a temp difference of 10C between the worse and the best. The worse was Radio Shack the best was the prototype from Arctic Silver. I actually was able to achieve stable overclocks that I previously was unable to reach with the prototype.

Anyway the moral of the story was the Radio Shack compound destabilized and was drying out after only 6 hours of testing, so be careful when you choose your thermal compounds because they really do make a difference, at least in my experience...........

P.S. Thermal pads have a much worse thermal conductivity even than Radio Shacks thermal compound, but at least have stability (don't dry up). So I can only recommend the use of a thermal pad if your NOT going to overclock.


And if cost is really the factor then go with the Alumina from Arctic Silver, it has decent - great performance, isn't conductive and is very reasonable.
 

ST4RCUTTER

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I second Warcon on this one. The temps that are being read are from socket thermistors in the majority of cases, and are not an accurate reflection of ASII's capabilities. Phase change thermal compound (tape/pad) can also be used only once and is a pain to remove after it has melted over the die.

Van's hardware actually has an informative interview with Nevin House of Arctic Silver on the benefits of quality thermal Interface materials. It's a good read.
 

Jeff7

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I usually buy ASII on eBay cause it's just plain cheaper there. This seller sells tubes for $5 each plus $3 to ship, so it's not too bad. Most places charge $7.99 plus shipping. Just follow the instructions - ONLY apply the ASII to the CORE of the CPU. Someone posted pics of people who only put it on the 4 black pads (result: dead CPU), or someone who coated the ENTIRE top of the CPU with arctic silver. (result: dead CPU)
 

genec

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I think Artic Siler is the easyet to use but most of the products work. For instructions read this.Text
 

MrHelpful

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DO NOT PEEL THE BLACK FOAM FEET ON THE PCB OF THE CPU!!! DOING SO WILL CAUSE DEATH, PESTILENCE, POVERTY AND IMPOTENCE!!!

Anyway, would you people stop spelling it Artic. Give the letter C some respect, will you?
 

thomsbrain

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<< DO NOT PEEL THE BLACK FOAM FEET ON THE PCB OF THE CPU!!! DOING SO WILL CAUSE DEATH, PESTILENCE, POVERTY AND IMPOTENCE!!!

Anyway, would you people stop spelling it Artic. Give the letter C some respect, will you?
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the smart ones just say ASII so no one knows they can't spell it.
 
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