Screw you GM

[flamingelephant]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
olds intrigue, i bought it new august of 98. last week, i took it in to get my serpentine belt replaced and the mechanic said my ORIGINAL water pump was starting to leak and that i should replace it. my car is over 10 years old and has 205,000 miles on it. not too bad for a moving mechanical part.

You should always replace your water pump when you get your serpentine belt changed

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: flamingelephant

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
olds intrigue, i bought it new august of 98. last week, i took it in to get my serpentine belt replaced and the mechanic said my ORIGINAL water pump was starting to leak and that i should replace it. my car is over 10 years old and has 205,000 miles on it. not too bad for a moving mechanical part.

You should always replace your water pump when you get your serpentine belt changed

that was only my 2nd serpentine belt ever. this car has been pretty good to me. other than brakes, struts and tires, the only other money i've put into this car is for the power window motors.

205k miles and the car is still rolling strong. very very torquey. oh ya, my air conditioner compressor just went out recently, but i'm not going to worry about that till spring.

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Evadman
So do I. It is a Toyota FJ Cruiser.

Originally posted by: Ktulu
Where's the FJ built? Not seeing it on Toyota's US production line up.

California IIRC, but I heard new production is moving to Kentucky soon; not sure. It is built on the same line as the Tacoma. Like most vehicles, a ton of parts come from overseas tho, just like GM, Ford or Dodge vehicles.

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Motortrend agrees with me: Article
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Originally posted by: zeruty
No offense, but those look like vomit on wheels....

It is a love it or hate it kinda truck. I have NEVER heard anyone say 'eh, it loosk ok'. It is either 'OMG ITS AWESOME' or OMG IT SUCKS'. I think it looks beautiful, but more important to me, it handles well (when the stability control isn't pissing me off) on and off road, hauls lots of junk, and takes my abuse. No breakdowns or broken parts yet *knocks on wood*. Mine was the 5th production FJ that had a manual transmission, and the 1st blue one. I feel so special

Did you get the special camo edition? A dealer near me had one that was covered in camo. I didn't check it out close enough to see how they did it, but some redneck is probably happy with it by now.

If you do a search on google images, you can see it. It's the same one I saw. Someone posted about it on toyotanation.com

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Don't blame GM for the problems at one dealership. I've been to awesome dealerships, and horrible dealerships. Those problems aren't just limited to GM.

No but GM has been of zero assistance

After the third time it failed you should have been asking for a regional service manager's phone number.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
American cars haven't been up to par for a bit. This isn't anything new.

Since Japan started making cars :laugh:

Yeah, I've known since I was like... 10? that you buy Japanese cars, and always have. My mom bought a Cavalier around ~2000 and had nothing but problems. She's stupid though :laugh:

 

[Fritzo]

I'm guessing they're not returning the op's calls because he's acting like a big jerk whenever he calls.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
American cars haven't been up to par for a bit. This isn't anything new.

Since Japan started making cars :laugh:

Yeah, I've known since I was like... 10? that you buy Japanese cars, and always have. My mom bought a Cavalier around ~2000 and had nothing but problems. She's stupid though :laugh:

What is she going to get you for your 11th birthday?

 

[rhino56]

ive had my 96 gmc for 12 years now and wouldnt trade it for any foreign POS

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: flamingelephant

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
olds intrigue, i bought it new august of 98. last week, i took it in to get my serpentine belt replaced and the mechanic said my ORIGINAL water pump was starting to leak and that i should replace it. my car is over 10 years old and has 205,000 miles on it. not too bad for a moving mechanical part.

You should always replace your water pump when you get your serpentine belt changed

Thats the worst advice ever. There is no need to replace the water pump that often. I have a cherokee with over 200k on it and have replaced the pump 0 times while I have replaced the belt every 50k or so. When the belt shows wear you replace it, when the pump fails you replace it.

 

[StageLeft]

I will never buy another

At the rate GM is going, that is a promise you can definitely make, because it won't be possible to buy another.

I drive an American car and it has been 100% reliable.

You bought it today? hee hee

Thats the worst advice ever. There is no need to replace the water pump that often. I have a cherokee with over 200k on it and have replaced the pump 0 times while I have replaced the belt every 50k or so. When the belt shows wear you replace it, when the pump fails you replace it.

My 00 Maxima has 120k on its belt. I really ought to change it one of these days but who am I kidding, I will wait until I get stranded somewhere.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
American cars haven't been up to par for a bit. This isn't anything new.

Ford did better overall than any other auto maker in JD Power's latest round up

?Fourteen Ford Motor Company models placed in the top three of their respective segments ? an achievement unmatched by any other corporation this year ? which is a testament to the improvement in quality for Ford Motor Company vehicle models and plants."

FORD & USA FTW!

I plan on buying a new f-150 in the near future (oh and I actually need a truck for work...)

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: LS8

Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
I laugh at the OP for buying an American car in the first place.

I drive an American car and it has been 100% reliable.

Me too, although they are not my favorite anymore.. I've seen the light.. FWIW, I have had best luck with American car dealerships (service wise)

 

[wyvrn]

According to consumer report, GM initial quality is as good as the Japanese brands. Has been for some time now. Ford has much better quality as well.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Why did you buy a GM?

I like to support companies based in my home country

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: mb

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
American cars haven't been up to par for a bit. This isn't anything new.

Well I've given them the benefit of the doubt, now I hope they go down hard. If they want to know why they are failing, THIS is why

Because you didn't read up beforehand and find out that ALL factory installed remote starts suck?

This.

OP, your and idiot.

Factory remote starters cause problems on lots of cars, and I don't see why they aren't tested better.
Two others I know of are Honda & Mercedes. It's not just a GM or American thing.

At least I can spell "you're" jackass.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Long Story Short:

Bought new vehicle
Had vehicle 2 months
Factory Installed Remote start fails
<Have vehicle in for repair 6 times, still broke
Dealership scratches my car in the process
Dealership is difficult to deal with and doesnt return calls
Make call to GM
Waiting over a month with no resolution
Customer service is worthless
Been waiting 2 months with me repeatedly calling, still no resolution

I will never buy another, both GM and the dealership can suck my balls. I may buy some GM stock just to wipe my ass.

FOLKS THERE IS A REASON GM IS FAILING, THEIR PRODUCTS SUCK AND THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS FOR SHIT.

Have you looked into a lemon law claim on this? Sure looks like you have been incovenienced enough by this fiasco.

Lemon law in my state is 3 times, however I would be out the cost of having legal representation.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
I'm guessing they're not returning the op's calls because he's acting like a big jerk whenever he calls.

I'm guessing you are dead wrong, I've been extremely nice to them the whole time. They claim that they are going through "restructuring" and they don't have anyone named for the district rep. Which granted isnt my f'ing problem but I'm getting F'd as a result.

 

[IGBT]

..right off the bat they say if they get the taxpayer bail, they'll use it to pay union benefits.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
FOLKS THERE IS A REASON GM IS FAILING, THEIR PRODUCTS SUCK AND THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS FOR SHIT.

What you me want to say is that the UAW fucked the US automakers. There is a reason that the cost of a car is typically $3,000 more than the Toyota equivalent.

yeah those damn labor contracts that management signed. :roll:

lets not forget that gm pays out more in retirement benefits to management than it does to factory workers.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: mb

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
American cars haven't been up to par for a bit. This isn't anything new.

Well I've given them the benefit of the doubt, now I hope they go down hard. If they want to know why they are failing, THIS is why

Because you didn't read up beforehand and find out that ALL factory installed remote starts suck?

This.

OP, your and idiot.

Factory remote starters cause problems on lots of cars, and I don't see why they aren't tested better.
Two others I know of are Honda & Mercedes. It's not just a GM or American thing.

At least I can spell "you're" jackass.

Too bad you're still a moran.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
According to consumer report, GM initial quality is as good as the Japanese brands. Has been for some time now. Ford has much better quality as well.

thank god someone else posted this. japanese cars, particularily toyota, are just running off old reputation. I would buy either a ford or gm before i would buy a nissan or toyota

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: wyvrn
According to consumer report, GM initial quality is as good as the Japanese brands. Has been for some time now. Ford has much better quality as well.

thank god someone else posted this. japanese cars, particularily toyota, are just running off old reputation. I would buy either a ford or gm before i would buy a nissan or toyota

:thumbsup:

 

[rcxEric]

just buy a kia. if it's good enough for chuck norris, javier bardem, and clint eastwood, it's good enough for you.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: Fritzo
I'm guessing they're not returning the op's calls because he's acting like a big jerk whenever he calls.

I'm guessing you are dead wrong, I've been extremely nice to them the whole time. They claim that they are going through "restructuring" and they don't have anyone named for the district rep. Which granted isnt my f'ing problem but I'm getting F'd as a result.

Then you need to talk to the person handling the district reps workload, probably a regional rep. You shouldn't have to put up with this, but your only option might be to take your car to another dealer or make them ship the car to that dealer for service. Dealers ship cars to other dealers daily for sales, someone higher up could force this to happen for service. I might go so far as to try getting the ear of owner of the dealership.

Knowing the way the domestic auto industry is now, I can guaranty at some point someone will be willing to kiss your ass. They don't want people to have the attitude you have, even if it is justified.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
American cars haven't been up to par for a bit. This isn't anything new.

Ford did better overall than any other auto maker in JD Power's latest round up

?Fourteen Ford Motor Company models placed in the top three of their respective segments ? an achievement unmatched by any other corporation this year ? which is a testament to the improvement in quality for Ford Motor Company vehicle models and plants."

FORD & USA FTW!

I plan on buying a new f-150 in the near future (oh and I actually need a truck for work...)

I have an 2003 F-150 I bought new and it has never been in the shop other than for routine maintenance.