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Karstein

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Went Open Beta today. You can get in for $20.

Haven't picked it up yet but am interested, particularly based on my liking for PoxNora, HOMM, etc. Anyone in yet that has some opinions?
 

Snock514

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Jul 20, 2009
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I've heard all good opinions on it but I think I'll pass, I was never into card games.
 

Wardawg1001

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It looks cool but I've become wary of card deck games. It seems most developers are more interested in making something addicting than making something entertaining, and usually spend significantly more time trying to find intricate ways to separate people from their money than they do fixing bugs, balancing, or expanding gameplay.
 

smackababy

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It looks cool but I've become wary of card deck games. It seems most developers are more interested in making something addicting than making something entertaining, and usually spend significantly more time trying to find intricate ways to separate people from their money than they do fixing bugs, balancing, or expanding gameplay.

"Pay an extra $5 for patch 1.01 and fix a few bugs while introducing a few we haven't caught yet!" - best business model ever.
 

Craig234

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So you can't get into beta without paying? So they're charging for beta access? So I was right? Okay.

So it includes the product when finished, so you're paying for that plus beta access, so you were wrong.

It's not that uncommon to charge more for betta access in kickstarters; this is reportedly a discount price for the game making beta access free with a discounted pre-order.
 

smackababy

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So it includes the product when finished, so you're paying for that plus beta access, so you were wrong.

It's not that uncommon to charge more for betta access in kickstarters; this is reportedly a discount price for the game making beta access free with a discounted pre-order.

He did the same style with Minecraft, and once it was release, I had no desire to pay more than the original $5 for beta access, so I never got it.
 

Craig234

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He did the same style with Minecraft, and once it was release, I had no desire to pay more than the original $5 for beta access, so I never got it.

That sounds different - paying for beta access that doesn't include the released game, while this sounds like it does include it.
 

boozie

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The game looks very cool. My issue is that it's a not well known game that will cost more than $20 (plus microtransactions although I've heard they are not that vital), but yet needs tons of people to build a community to be worth it.
 

smackababy

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That sounds different - paying for beta access that doesn't include the released game, while this sounds like it does include it.

Minecraft, if you "bought" into the beta gave you full access to the released game when it released. The price started at I think $5 and went up until it released at whatever the retail ended up being. It was more than $5, so I was not interested.
 

boozie

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Minecraft, if you "bought" into the beta gave you full access to the released game when it released. The price started at I think $5 and went up until it released at whatever the retail ended up being. It was more than $5, so I was not interested.

I think he understands this, your original post could be confused to mean that you had paid $5 for beta and didn't want to spend more when it came out.

When you meant:

It was $5 buy in at one point, I didn't buy it then, and wasn't interested when it was more than $5.

Personally, I think a cheaper game plus beta access is great, I am just hesitant to give $20 when I don't know how well this game will take off.
 

Craig234

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I think he understands this, your original post could be confused to mean that you had paid $5 for beta and didn't want to spend more when it came out.

When you meant:

It was $5 buy in at one point, I didn't buy it then, and wasn't interested when it was more than $5.

Personally, I think a cheaper game plus beta access is great, I am just hesitant to give $20 when I don't know how well this game will take off.

Thanks for clearing that up. My objection is to his describing the price as 'paying for beta' without any mention it includes the game at release.
 

smackababy

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Thanks for clearing that up. My objection is to his describing the price as 'paying for beta' without any mention it includes the game at release.

Sorry for the confusion then. But with Minecraft, it was a single guy coding a game in Java. Any developer who has coded in Java or on a small team would be wary of such an endeavor. I don't think a lot of people knew when, or even if, it was going to actually release in 1.0 status. I hadn't heard of the guy before and wasn't sure it was worth paying into.

But it exploded, and he released a decent game.
 
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