Seagate 300GB SATA $100 no rebate

lazarus000

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: binister
Better deal

By a couple cents per gig... and a better seek time

Not better if you're looking for 300 GB instead of 250.


not trying to thread crap ... but 20 bucks does seem like quite a bit for the extra 50 gigs.

i don't see how the such similiar drives can have such different seek times either.... i must be missing something.

a 11 ms seek time seems pretty slow for a seagate ... misprint?


Seagate Barracuda
7200.8 ST3250823AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB
Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3250823AS
Item #: N82E16822148065

$86.00

In Stock
$4.99 Three Day Shipping (Not available in HI, AK and PR)

SpecificationsModel
Brand Seagate
Series Barracuda 7200.8
Model ST3250823AS
Performance
Capacity 250GB
Cache 8MB
RPM 7200 RPM
Average Seek Time 8ms
Average Latency 4.16ms
Interface Serial ATA150
Physical Spec
Form Factor 3.5"
Features
Features Single-chip SATA interface with Native Command Queuing
SoftSonic motor
RoHS-compliant
Enhanced G-Force Protection
Warranty
Manufacturer Warranty 5-Year


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Seagate Barracuda
7200.8 ST3300831AS 300GB 7200 RPM 8M
Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3300831AS
Item #: N82E16822148064

$105.00

In Stock
Free Three Day Shipping (Not available in HI, AK and PR)

SpecificationsModel
Brand Seagate
Series Barracuda 7200.8
Model ST3300831AS
Performance
Capacity 300GB
Cache 8MB
RPM 7200 RPM
Average Seek Time 11ms
Average Latency 4.16ms
Interface Serial ATA150
Physical Spec
Form Factor 3.5"
Features
Features SATA interface with NCQ
SoftSonic motor
RoHS-compliant
Enhanced G-Force Protection
Warranty
Manufacturer Warranty 5-Year
 

Hersh

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While I was planning on getting the 250GB drive, reading those reviews of the first couple of pages there makes me cautious.

Some say this drive is loud and even more said their drive failed in anywhere between days to several months. Anyone have any personal experience with these drives?
 

whistleclient

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Apr 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: BigJ
It's the 7200.8 too...nice drive.

i'm not trying to crap, but i've heard anecdotal evidence that the 7200.8 isn't as reliable as the previous series. many recommend getting the 7200.9 series because it has one less platter.

any truth to that?
 

Zap

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Oct 13, 1999
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My take on all this...

Seagate drives aren't the fastest, however their published specs may be closest to reality. Look at the recent Storagereview.com 250GB drive roundup. The Seagate had the slowest published seek by far, but when actually tested the other drives couldn't even come close to published specs.

Reliability or not, there's warranty. IMO all drives regardless of size/brand/model will have failures. Seagates may look like they are failing at a higher rate because likely more people are buying them. Who knows the actual percentage of failures, but the numbers are likely to be huge. For instance let's say that a 300GB Seagate has 1000 failed units in a month while a 300GB Maxtor only has 500 failed units in the same month. Does that mean Maxtor drives are more reliable? Well, if they sold the same amount then yes, but what if Seagate sold 20,000 and had 1000 failures for a 5% rate while Maxtor sold 5000 and had 500 failures for a 10% rate? I'm just making up those numbers, but the fact is that Seagate is the largest HDD manufacturer in the world in volume, and that's a fact.

As for $/GB, that's fine except I like having fewer but larger drives and the 300GB is at a sweet spot because going from 200GB to 250GB is almost the same price, and $20 more for the extra 50GB, but then for another 100GB it's $130 more, so the 300GB drive price point is the best for maximum capacity while still being cheap on the $/GB.
 

EKKC

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maybe check ZZF. they alwyas charge like another dollar for the drive over newegg, but no shipping...

never mind i checked. its more.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: BigJ
It's the 7200.8 too...nice drive.

i'm not trying to crap, but i've heard anecdotal evidence that the 7200.8 isn't as reliable as the previous series. many recommend getting the 7200.9 series because it has one less platter.

any truth to that?

I actually heard the opposite, that the 7200.8 were more reliable than the 7200.9 series.

Hmmm, I'm going to have to look into this.
 

fbrdphreak

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Apr 17, 2004
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I have a 400GB 7200.8 OEM (no warranty). I'm happy with performance, but previously only had WD 80GB SATA 7200RPM drives. The system seems a little more I/O responsive, but I wouldn't say its a huge difference. I've had the drive for probly 6-8 months. When I had my case on top of my desk for about a month, I could really hear the hard drive; it was pretty annoying. However with the case below my desk now I almost never ever hear it; and only if its really quiet in the room.

Good deal, but from what I hear the new WD drives perform better and are quieter; 3 year vs 5 year warranty I believe.
 

akugami

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Feb 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: Zap
My take on all this...

Seagate drives aren't the fastest, however their published specs may be closest to reality. Look at the recent Storagereview.com 250GB drive roundup. The Seagate had the slowest published seek by far, but when actually tested the other drives couldn't even come close to published specs.

Reliability or not, there's warranty. IMO all drives regardless of size/brand/model will have failures. Seagates may look like they are failing at a higher rate because likely more people are buying them. Who knows the actual percentage of failures, but the numbers are likely to be huge. For instance let's say that a 300GB Seagate has 1000 failed units in a month while a 300GB Maxtor only has 500 failed units in the same month. Does that mean Maxtor drives are more reliable? Well, if they sold the same amount then yes, but what if Seagate sold 20,000 and had 1000 failures for a 5% rate while Maxtor sold 5000 and had 500 failures for a 10% rate? I'm just making up those numbers, but the fact is that Seagate is the largest HDD manufacturer in the world in volume, and that's a fact.

As for $/GB, that's fine except I like having fewer but larger drives and the 300GB is at a sweet spot because going from 200GB to 250GB is almost the same price, and $20 more for the extra 50GB, but then for another 100GB it's $130 more, so the 300GB drive price point is the best for maximum capacity while still being cheap on the $/GB.

Agree with everything you said. That's why I've been trying to hold out on a deal for a 400GB or 500GB HD. I have a 74GB Raptor (yes, I know it's overpriced) for my boot and app HD for speed. Everything else is storage.

I need the space because I refuse to catch TV shows in the US at a certain hour or else. I just download the episode in question. And I speak a language other than English as does most of my family and I download TV shows from the net that isn't readily available in the US. Plus the anime.
 

lazarus000

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anyone on why the 300gb has a 11ms seek time while the 250 is 8ms?

.9 with 3.0 for 9 bucks more


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Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3250824AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Average Latency: 4.16ms
Average Seek Time: 11ms
Cache: 8MB
Features: Native Command Queuing(NCQ) 3-D Defense System RoHS Compliant
Form Factor: 3.5"
Manufacturer Warranty: 5-Year

Model #: ST3250824AS
Item #: N82E16822148111
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furballi

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I prefer the 250GB drive. One less platter which should result in less noise, heat, and stress on the motor. From an engineering point of view, it's either 160GB (one platter) or 250GB (two platters). I'm not sure why Seagate doesn't use two 160GB platters for their 300GB 7200.9 drives.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I have a 400GB 7200.8 OEM (no warranty).

??? Should have 5 year warranty regardless of retail or OEM.
 

robertk2012

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Originally posted by: furballi
I prefer the 250GB drive. One less platter which should result in less noise, heat, and stress on the motor. From an engineering point of view, it's either 160GB (one platter) or 250GB (two platters). I'm not sure why Seagate doesn't use two 160GB platters for their 300GB 7200.9 drives.

Maybe its because 2x160 is 320?
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: lazarus000
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: binister
Better deal

By a couple cents per gig... and a better seek time

Not better if you're looking for 300 GB instead of 250.


not trying to thread crap ... but 20 bucks does seem like quite a bit for the extra 50 gigs.

I've taken to exclusively building shuttle systems...

So the more you can get in a good drive at a good price is great.

I was pumped because last year when I built one I picked up a 200gb seagate for $80... a 300GB for $20 more a year later seems sweet. $100 for the first and last drive I will buy for this new PC is perfect.
 

BigJ

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Heh. Newegg lowered the price by $5, and is now charging $4.99 for 3 day shipping
 

popeye44

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I've been running a 7200.8 drive for pretty near as long as they have been available "within a couple weeks of release" I'm perfectly happy and it's a 300g drive. I've defragged it once a month over the time I've had it.. and it's flawless. I don't use large drives for my boot drive so as far as performance i'm not sure.. but it's my download drive.. I store craploads on it.
 
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