Seagate & WD woes because of Thailand flooding.

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SuperSix

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Not all Seagate drives are made in Thailand. Last year,I bought a Momentus XT 320GB from the Egg for $116. Today I bought a Momentus XT 500GB from the Egg for $119. I believe these drives are made in China. The 320GB was. $3 for 180GB more is not what I would call a big uptick.

Almost all Seagate HDD are assembled in Malayasia or China - but many of the components used come from the flooded areas of Thailand. Like Nidec motors, used in 75% of HDD, they are shut down for now, and for quite awhile. Harrisburg or Harrison (I can't remember) make the sliders for both Seagate and WD, but they too, are out of commission for awhile.

I have been in wholesale at a master distributor level for almost 15 years, I have never seen such disruption.
 

Gigantopithecus

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Not all Seagate drives are made in Thailand. Last year,I bought a Momentus XT 320GB from the Egg for $116. Today I bought a Momentus XT 500GB from the Egg for $119. I believe these drives are made in China. The 320GB was. $3 for 180GB more is not what I would call a big uptick.

Ouch. I picked up three 500GB Momentus XTs from Amazon for $90 apiece about two months ago...
 

darkxshade

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I knew there would be a shortage of HDD, I wonder what if any effect this will have in the SSD market?
 

mcturkey

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SSDs probably wont be changed.

SSD demand will jump due to the lack of supply of mechanical drives, especially in corporate laptops. The OEMs are going to have the bulk of whatever supply is left, and are going to push SSDs in order to secure sales of systems once that supply runs low. That means increased prices and lower availability.

Earthquake, tsunami, nuclear meltdown in Japan. Flooding in Thailand. That's a lot of electronics manufacturing impacted, but the scope is still fairly limited right now. However, if mainland China or Taiwan get hit with anything disruptive, it's going to be time to really panic.
 

frostedflakes

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This is just nuts.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136830

Prices have literally almost doubled for some drives. WD Green 1TB used to be around $60, now it's $100. Google product search is showing about $150 for that 2TB WD Black before retailers started jacking up the prices.

Wonder how much of this is just price gouging. I mean I know the flooding will have a big effect on supply, but wow. Wasn't expecting the impact on prices to be this huge.
 

George Powell

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Here in the UK prices have gone up very fast, on 3TB drives the increase has been about 50% in a week! The number of drives available has noticeably reduced as well.
 

code65536

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Over at SlickDeals, there's a thread about a 500GB external Seagate for $30 (wow, how did that get out the gates?), and people in the thread are talking about holding off until Black Friday. /me laughs
 

Lonyo

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Here in the UK prices have gone up very fast, on 3TB drives the increase has been about 50% in a week! The number of drives available has noticeably reduced as well.

Around June I bought a 2TB WD Green for £50 (I don't pay VAT).

I ordered another 2TB Western Digital Green about 3 days ago, it was OOS on Amazon.co.uk at the time.
Came in stock the next day and got dispatched. Cost was £58.

Today I look again, and it's now £66 (£80 with VAT), but it's already OOS again. The price for other resellers is £150!
 

KentState

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I was wanting to build my NAS and I wasn't able to buy more than 1 drive of any type. Not only are prices high, but I can't even get enough of them.
 

darkxshade

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SSD demand will jump due to the lack of supply of mechanical drives, especially in corporate laptops. The OEMs are going to have the bulk of whatever supply is left, and are going to push SSDs in order to secure sales of systems once that supply runs low. That means increased prices and lower availability.

This is my mentality as well... and I figure since SSD manufacturers are not having production issues, it might be a good hedge to buy some stock in SSD companies? Their profitability can only go up due to this.
 

GoStumpy

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Well I am REALLY glad I bought my 1TB WD Blue drive 2 weeks ago for $55 shipped, now it's $133 with shipping!

Sucky part is my friend wants me to build him a computer, what do I pick for a HDD now
 

SuperSix

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WD Update:

Dear valued customer:
The torrential flooding in Thailand has claimed hundreds of lives, displaced hundreds of thousands of residents and directly and profoundly impacted thousands of businesses. Western Digital's business is one of those. We understand that this tragedy also is indirectly affecting your business and we ask for your patience while we recover our facilities and work to rebuild our production.

The human toll from the flooding is the greatest tragedy. Our highest priority is the well being of our employees. We are relieved to tell you that all WD employees are safe, although many of their lives have been severely impacted. Extensive efforts are under way to provide them with the assistance they need during this difficult time.
In mid-October we temporarily suspended production at our two factories in Thailand, which have been inundated by floodwater, to protect our employees and our equipment and facilities. We manufacture approximately 60 percent of our hard drives in Thailand. With the greatest direct manufacturing exposure to the flooded areas, the impact on our business in the short term will be greater than to other HDD manufacturers.
In addition, many of our component suppliers have been impacted, leaving material for hard drive production considerably constrained. We are working with suppliers to assess the extent of their impact and help devise short- and long-term solutions. This is a complex and dynamic problem that will require extensive rebuilding for the Thai people and government, and bring unprecedented challenges to the HDD industry for multiple quarters.
We understand that you must do everything in your power to sustain your business. Your satisfaction is very important to us. Our teams are addressing every conceivable opportunity, between our available facilities and those of our suppliers, to build the maximum volume of quality hard drives and support your business and your customers' businesses. However, limited component availability throughout the supply chain and extraordinary acts by manufacturers to bring systems back online as quickly as possible will ultimately raise the costs of some of our products.
We also have deep concern for the broader Thailand community affected by the flooding. WD, through the WD Foundation, is making significant contributions and matching donations by its employees on a one-to-one basis. We've identified the Thai Red Cross Society as the most effective means of distributing aid where it's most needed. Please consider contributing what you can to help the Thai people rebuild their lives and restore their communities:
Click on the Donate Online button at the Thai Red Cross Society web site (http://english.redcross.or.th/home).
At WD we are passionate, dedicated people, and we will continue investing in the near and long term to provide you with a reliable supply of high-quality hard drives. We appreciate your understanding and patience during this crisis. As the situation evolves, we will provide you with updates.
Sincerely,
John Coyne
President and Chief Executive Officer
 

Crow550

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Well they can raise HDD prices but no one will buy them and then stores will end up putting them on clearance or sending them back.

Same thing with the price hike that is happening on Peanuts.

I remember when Milk got some price increase to like $8. Well yeah no one bought Milk for awhile.

So as for Seagate & Western Digital price increase. No one will buy em for awhile.

It's very sad what happened but in this Economy. People just aren't going to pay it.
 
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Rubycon

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Seagate and WD did not need flooding to have woes.

The outcome of this is definitely not going to be nice.

Well I am REALLY glad I bought my 1TB WD Blue drive 2 weeks ago for $55 shipped, now it's $133 with shipping!

Sucky part is my friend wants me to build him a computer, what do I pick for a HDD now

Go with Hitachi or Samsung. Better drives IME.
 

heymrdj

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Well guess that NAS I was going to build ain't gonna happen for a bit, ain't paying that much.
 

airdata

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...You know things are bad when Best Buy has better prices than Newegg.

LOL....

I had a 500gb wd blue drive listed on craigslist for $35. It was a shell shocker for $25 and an impulse buy I don't need..

Anyhow, some dude tried to offer me $20 and I'd just found out about this flooding. Newegg has the same drive up for $89.99 ~! WOOOOW.

Good think I'm pretty stocked up on drives at the moment.


WTS : 300GB Velociraptor $250, pst.
 

Rvenger

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Sad that Newegg's HDD prices are $30 more than BestBuy. I think they are just taking advantage of customers at this point.


EDIT: Gigantophecus beat me to it.
 

SuperSix

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Sad that Newegg's HDD prices are $30 more than BestBuy. I think they are just taking advantage of customers at this point.


EDIT: Gigantophecus beat me to it.


No, they simply react to market conditions much faster.
 

masonardo

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Doing a little research was kind of enlightening on this whole HD situation. Articles are saying that up to 40&#37; of the Thai HD production has been affected by the flooding. The interesting thing is that other articles say that 25% of the world's HD production is in Thailand....

Doing the quick math, that means only 10% of the global HD production has been temporarily impacted by the flooding. And that's not even taking into account increased production in China, etc. to cover the shortage. Hardly enough to justify prices increasing 2x to 3x in a week.

Not to sound skeptical, but it sure looks like another case of speculating and profiteering that we've seen happen in plenty of other industries when things like this happen. I'll be keeping the drives I have until prices return to previous levels, however long that takes. Also, companies that gouge the most will be the last to get my business when prices return to normal.
 
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