Sean Spicer excluding media outlets from briefing (NYT, CNN, WAPO, Politico)

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They are angry with pool reporting because they were always at the top of the heap before the Trump administration, since they're no longer at the top of the heap they resent it. ABC, CBS and NBC were all included in the pool.
 
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It seems like we're in a hopeless situation. We either get extremely corrupt corporate media or we get extremely corrupt state media. The Fox News channel isn't even legal in Canada because there's some kind of law against fake news.

Guess I should report my cable company to the Canadian tv police for providing me with their signal then. In other words, that is not a statement that contains any truth.
 

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They are angry with pool reporting because they were always at the top of the heap before the Trump administration, since they're no longer at the top of the heap they resent it. ABC, CBS and NBC were all included in the pool.
I think what they're protesting is being excluded entirely (the topic of this thread). And even if you take issue with the slant or accuracy of the New York Times, I don't think you'd dispute that they're asking important questions when they query the Trump administration about links to Russia?
 

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Good. Maybe they'll start actually reporting instead of writing one-sided / slanted / opinion articles constantly and passing it off as news. The four outlets they list are usually so far off the rails that you would have to have brain damage to consider them legitimate news outlets. None of them have been presenting the American people with the truth for a while, and have primarily been shilling for Democrats for several years. Not saying other outlets are better, but these four are clearly regularly biased in their reporting.
 
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Good. Maybe they'll start actually reporting instead of writing one-sided / slanted / opinion articles constantly and passing it off as news. The four outlets they list are usually so far off the rails that you would have to have brain damage to consider them legitimate news outlets. None of them have been presenting the American people with the truth for a while, and have primarily been shilling for Democrats for several years. Not saying other outlets are better, but these four are clearly regularly biased in their reporting.
Why are they so far off the rails and thus illegitimate? Do you have some examples? Is it just because they're telling you what you don't want to hear? Do you have the same complaints for organizations like "The Washington Times"?

Furthermore, what sources do you consider "legitimate"?
 

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Good. Maybe they'll start actually reporting instead of writing one-sided / slanted / opinion articles constantly and passing it off as news. The four outlets they list are usually so far off the rails that you would have to have brain damage to consider them legitimate news outlets. None of them have been presenting the American people with the truth for a while, and have primarily been shilling for Democrats for several years. Not saying other outlets are better, but these four are clearly regularly biased in their reporting.

What news sources do you rely on ?
 
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I think what they're protesting is being excluded entirely (the topic of this thread). And even if you take issue with the slant or accuracy of the New York Times, I don't think you'd dispute that they're asking important questions when they query the Trump administration about links to Russia?
This is just a standard press pool for coverage. Something that has been done for decades at the White House. The only difference is the big dogs in the media are the ones being excluded instead of the numerous little dogs of the media.
The OP didn't even include a story or a source to this topic.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...excludes-several-outlets-press-gaggle-n725366

"NBC News was allowed into the off-camera briefing and decided to stay with the intention of sharing all newsgathering material with journalism colleagues. The "pool" was also in the room — meaning that, under a longstanding agreement, the material would be shared with all media colleagues regardless of who was physically present."




 
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Why are they so far off the rails and thus illegitimate? Do you have some examples? Is it just because they're telling you what you don't want to hear? Do you have the same complaints for organizations like "The Washington Times"?

Furthermore, what sources do you consider "legitimate"?
Not The New York Times, or CNN right now.
 

mrjminer

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Why are they so far off the rails and thus illegitimate? Do you have some examples? Is it just because they're telling you what you don't want to hear? Do you have the same complaints for organizations like "The Washington Times"?

Furthermore, what sources do you consider "legitimate"?

Sorry, I'm not wasting my time digging up article after article after article and analyzing them to appease you. If you want to know why, go take some courses in rhetoric, then read the articles from some of the various outlets and you'll see how obvious the bias is in their writings. Then, you can look at what they simply leave out, fail to report on, etc. The MSM is constantly inserting their viewpoints into everything, whether you notice it or not. They regularly ignore news and viewpoints that are contradictory to their generally radical leftist views, or subtly paint them negatively in order to attempt to brainwash the masses. I read everything critically, and the overwhelming majority of what I've read from those organizations are so biased it would take a blind man to not see it (or, someone who has already been brainwashed, of course).

I consider few sources legitimate. Nowadays, I generally just listen to Mark Levin since the MSM and most other outlets are corrupt, and I prefer logic over slanted opinion in the knowledge I gain. The only time I come across something from one of these other outlets is when I feel like taunting the fools in P&N bandwagoning people for actually using their brains.

Also, whose to say these are the sources you should get your information from? Why not Joe Blow's Daily Report out of Bumfuck, TN with a readership of 42 people? These organizations have far too long been fucking everyone in the country who reads them, and there's nothing that I know of that says they have to be given a pass to do it. Freedom of the press just means they can do what they want, it doesn't mean they get what they want.
 
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To one degree or another I have doubts about every media outlet. If your question is which one i believe in absolutely my answer would be ............ none.
 

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This is just a standard press pool for coverage. Something that has been done for decades at the White House. The only difference is the big dogs in the media are the ones being excluded instead of the numerous little dogs of the media.
The OP didn't even include a story or a source to this topic.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...excludes-several-outlets-press-gaggle-n725366

"NBC News was allowed into the off-camera briefing and decided to stay with the intention of sharing all newsgathering material with journalism colleagues. The "pool" was also in the room — meaning that, under a longstanding agreement, the material would be shared with all media colleagues regardless of who was physically present."



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What a bullshit way to avoid tough questions. Just make sure there's nobody in the room to ask them.

Post-truth all the way, Baby!
 
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