Seasonic 500w vs Antec NeoHe 500u

[MikeTheBuzzsaw]

Okay, Ive searched but no1 compared these two specific psu heads up.

I have a p180 with the current setup in my signature.


I have an opportunity to purchase either the seasonic or the antec at the same price.

Seasonic s12:
Reliable (def more than the antec)
efficient
Quieter than Neohe barely


Antec:
Modular Cabling
Modular Cabling
2nd in quietness
Modular Cabling


Keep in mind that both the units will be bought used so I can't buy the new M-12. What do you guys think? Is Antec noticeable louder than the seasonic?

 

[PurdueRy]

People here are going to pick the Seasonic.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
People here are going to pick the Seasonic.

Only because it's three times the psu. And besides, it doesn't have modular cabling, that's a huge plus.

 

[MikeTheBuzzsaw]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
People here are going to pick the Seasonic.

Only because it's three times the psu. And besides, it doesn't have modular cabling, that's a huge plus.

Whats wrong with modular cabling? Are they more prone to problems?

 

[Ricemarine]

Originally posted by: MikeTheBuzzsaw

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
People here are going to pick the Seasonic.

Only because it's three times the psu. And besides, it doesn't have modular cabling, that's a huge plus.

Whats wrong with modular cabling? Are they more prone to problems?

Go grab that Enhance ENP-5150GH off Ewiz...
Since its the Silverstone one on newegg as stated in that other thread . For $67 + shipping, its a pretty hot deal.

 

[Nocturnal]

Isn't the NeoHE made by Seasonic?

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: MikeTheBuzzsaw

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
People here are going to pick the Seasonic.

Only because it's three times the psu. And besides, it doesn't have modular cabling, that's a huge plus.

Whats wrong with modular cabling? Are they more prone to problems?

Yes, that, and the fact that it being modular requires buying a larger psu, since modular is nowhere near as efficient as copper wiring is, at transferring voltage/amperage.

 

[Rommel44]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: MikeTheBuzzsaw

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
People here are going to pick the Seasonic.

Only because it's three times the psu. And besides, it doesn't have modular cabling, that's a huge plus.

Whats wrong with modular cabling? Are they more prone to problems?

Yes, that, and the fact that it being modular requires buying a larger psu, since modular is nowhere near as efficient as copper wiring is, at transferring voltage/amperage.

Thats not true - look at Seasonic M12-500 its new modular PSU with high efficienci. Review is on www.hardwarelogic.com

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

IIRC, the Seasonic M12 series, as well sa the Corsair PSU models (made by Seasonic) aren't fully modular. The 24p connector, as well as the PCIe power connectors are hard-wired, and the other cables are modular. So you get the best of both worlds: reliability for the main connectors, and modular for the rest.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Rommel44

Yes, that, and the fact that it being modular requires buying a larger psu, since modular is nowhere near as efficient as copper wiring is, at transferring voltage/amperage.
[/quote]

Thats not true - look at Seasonic M12-500 its new modular PSU with high efficienci. Review is on www.hardwarelogic.com[/quote]
Yes, it's quite true. The high efficiency that you're talking about (the ability to pull less current from the building's electrical system), and the efficiency I was talking about are quite different. Connectors, of any type, have never been, and will never be as efficient at transferring voltage/amperage as copper wiring, period. If you doubt me, feel free to either go to school and become an electrical engineer, or just ask any engineer.

As a matter of fact, you can prove it to yourself, if you own a digital multimeter. Just splice 10 or 15 butt connectors into a piece of 6 or 8 foot wiring. Then, use an identical length of the same wiring, and first test them both for resistance, then test them for voltage, using any 1.5v battery.

 

[Rommel44]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Rommel44

Yes, that, and the fact that it being modular requires buying a larger psu, since modular is nowhere near as efficient as copper wiring is, at transferring voltage/amperage.

Thats not true - look at Seasonic M12-500 its new modular PSU with high efficienci. Review is on www.hardwarelogic.com[/quote]
Yes, it's quite true. The high efficiency that you're talking about (the ability to pull less current from the building's electrical system), and the efficiency I was talking about are quite different. Connectors, of any type, have never been, and will never be as efficient at transferring voltage/amperage as copper wiring, period. If you doubt me, feel free to either go to school and become an electrical engineer, or just ask any engineer.

As a matter of fact, you can prove it to yourself, if you own a digital multimeter. Just splice 10 or 15 butt connectors into a piece of 6 or 8 foot wiring. Then, use an identical length of the same wiring, and first test them both for resistance, then test them for voltage, using any 1.5v battery.[/quote]

Yes I was talking about ability to pull less current from the electrical system.

Originally posted by: myocardia

Q: Whats wrong with modular cabling? Are they more prone to problems?

R: Yes, that, and the fact that it being modular requires buying a larger psu, since modular is nowhere near as efficient as copper wiring is, at transferring voltage/amperage. .

I just didnt like your answer that modular PSUs are more prone to problems.

 

[Rommel44]

Sorry double post

 

[Mem]

I just didnt like your answer that modular PSUs are more prone to problems.

Rommel44 makes a valid point,nothing wrong with Modular power supplies in the real world.

If you use a quality brand and prefer them,the fact that most of the top brands now make Modular PSU's proves my point,as to efficiency between them etc,does not really matter providing the PSU in question can handle the full load and remain stable within your hardware,in the real world a lot of people have modular PSU's that work fine with no problems.

Like all things it is all down to your budget and what type/quality brand of PSU you can get for your money,and if it can also handle the task and remain stable within your PC.

Some PSU buyers always go for a higher wattage then needed as well as quality, so it can handle future expansions of added hardware down the road,btw why restrict yourself to those two? Enermax,OCZ and few more brands I can name do some nice quality modular PSUs, if you prefer modular.

 

[Rommel44]

Originally posted by: Mem

I just didnt like your answer that modular PSUs are more prone to problems.

Rommel44 makes a valid point,nothing wrong with Modular power supplies in the real world.

If you use a quality brand and prefer them,the fact that most of the top brands now make Modular PSU's proves my point,as to efficiency between them etc,does not really matter providing the PSU in question can handle the full load and remain stable within your hardware,in the real world a lot of people have modular PSU's that work fine with no problems.

Like all things it is all down to your budget and what type/quality brand of PSU you can get for your money,and if it can also handle the task and remain stable within your PC.

Some PSU buyers always go for a higher wattage then needed as well as quality, so it can handle future expansions of added hardware down the road,btw why restrict yourself to those two? Enermax,OCZ and few more brands I can name do some nice quality modular PSUs, if you prefer modular.

Yeah I agree with you. You get what you pay for.

 

[xsilver]

I think part of the problem with modular psu's is the notion that they'll increase air efficiency.
While this may be true, the difference is probably very nominal
and also the notion of clutter from a fashion standpoint

people in the "SAY NO TO MODULAR" camp probably just dont understand how anally reticulated you can be about the two above issues, when all it takes is about 30cms of sticky tape to tape the cables to the top of your case and out of the way. gives you at least 80% of the airflow although I cant say the same for fashion.

 

[MikeTheBuzzsaw]

Keep in mind the reason why I decided on these two types of PSU is they're quiet and they're relatively efficient.


Also, is 500w even enough for future expansions?? Caculator says i need 375...

 

[akshayt]

Please given links to the specs.
Antec way NeoHE500 is made by Seasonic.

But still give seasonic spec links.

500watts is not enough for future expansions like CF, quad core oc etc

 

[Bobthelost]

Originally posted by: akshayt
Please given links to the specs.
Antec way NeoHE500 is made by Seasonic.

But still give seasonic spec links.

500watts is not enough for future expansions like CF, quad core oc etc

Bollocks it isn't. Well with the exception of CF, where it might or it might not.

 

[MikeTheBuzzsaw]

Originally posted by: akshayt
Please given links to the specs.
Antec way NeoHE500 is made by Seasonic.

But still give seasonic spec links.

500watts is not enough for future expansions like CF, quad core oc etc

Mistake me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Antec Phantom was made by seasonic, not Neohe.

 

[Bobthelost]

Originally posted by: MikeTheBuzzsaw

Originally posted by: akshayt
Please given links to the specs.
Antec way NeoHE500 is made by Seasonic.

But still give seasonic spec links.

500watts is not enough for future expansions like CF, quad core oc etc

Mistake me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Antec Phantom was made by seasonic, not Neohe.

Consider yourself mistaken No idea on who built the phantom but the NeoHE is definitly seasonic built.

 

[dBTelos]

No idea on who built the phantom but the NeoHE is definitly seasonic built.

I believe it is CWT.

The Antec is louder then the S12, but also has modular cables. The S12 has higher quality, but the Antec is cheaper. It is what you value.

 

[PianoMan]

Obviously, from your original post, you value modular. (Amazing how I figure that out, eh?)

If it's gotta be down to those two (doesn't seem like you have a choice, getting them used), get the one with the features you want, which is this case is the Antec. (No, it isn't my Antec fan-boy'ism coming out - just a practical choice).

'Though the Corsair PSU's look mighty nice.

PM

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: MikeTheBuzzsaw

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
People here are going to pick the Seasonic.

Only because it's three times the psu. And besides, it doesn't have modular cabling, that's a huge plus.

Whats wrong with modular cabling? Are they more prone to problems?

Yes, that, and the fact that it being modular requires buying a larger psu, since modular is nowhere near as efficient as copper wiring is, at transferring voltage/amperage.

Who says you can't use copper wire in modular cables?

Originally posted by: dBTelos

No idea on who built the phantom but the NeoHE is definitly seasonic built.

I believe it is CWT.

Seasonic builds them.

 

[thecrecarc]

i would take the seasonic

 

[Rockhound1]

Given the choice between the two, I would choose the Seasonic S-12. However, the OP mentioned that he would be using an Antec P-180 case. Because of the configuration of this case, I would select the NeoHE for my PSU. Airflow in the NeoHE is from front to back, which is ideal for the P-180.

The Seasonic draws its cooling air through the bottom of the PSU.