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Harvey

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Originally posted by: Corbett
3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

Six years of the Bushwhackos TREASON and MURDER, and that's the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

I guess that shows how petty your entire denial is that they've been lying, eviscerating the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution and murdering our own troops. Unless you want me to search for the documentation I've been posting for that entire time and cut and paste all of it in reply to your pissant denials, be happy I'm just asking if you've been smoking that Kool-Aid again. :roll:
 
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Yeahup, Clinton didn't use that intel to go to war in Iraq. Instead he gave us stories about 100,000 in mass graves to send us into a different war. Did we find mass graves? Supposedly, but not anywhere close what Clinton claimed, just like we found WMDs, but not the stockpiles Bush claimed.

Do we still have soldiers in Bosnia?

But nobody cared when Clinton lied and people died. Instead we have gits like Harvey who make excuses and seems to believe that capitalized and bolded words, repeated over and over again like some loon banging his head against the padded cell, are the pinnacle of debate on internet forums.

:roll:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Yeahup, Clinton didn't use that intel to go to war in Iraq. Instead he gave us stories about 100,000 in mass graves to send us into a different war. Did we find mass graves? Supposedly, but not anywhere close what Clinton claimed, just like we found WMDs, but not the stockpiles Bush claimed.

Do we still have soldiers in Bosnia?

But nobody cared when Clinton lied and people died. Instead we have gits like Harvey who make excuses and seems to believe that capitalized and bolded words, repeated over and over again like some loon banging his head against the padded cell, are the pinnacle of debate on internet forums.

:roll:
Americans didn't die and the mission was successful unlike Iraq.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
So I guess the article in this thread proves its not George W Bush who was lying to us, he just had bad intel. Just like most of us conservatives have been saying all along.

Been smoking that Kool-Aid again? :shocked:

3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

Corbett, if a friend of yours tells you that some drunk guy with a huge conflict of interest had told him something, but he wouldn't say who, would you then start asking people to risk and lose their lives, based on the information, by spreading the word how you had 'solid info' they could rely on it was accurate?

If you can't see how that's at least incredibly irresponsible, and lying at least in the sense of misrepresenting the solid level of the info... you have issues.

And if you had a huge interests in pushing the point that the info helped with, as Bush had a huge interest in pushing war with Iraq, then it's worse.

Carig, you are the last person to tell someone they have issues. Again, you may be correct that the Bush admin trusted the wrong people for intel; however, that does not come anywhere close to the same thing as lying to Americans to go to war.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

Six years of the Bushwhackos TREASON and MURDER, and that's the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

I guess that shows how petty your entire denial is that they've been lying, eviscerating the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution and murdering our own troops. Unless you want me to search for the documentation I've been posting for that entire time and cut and paste all of it in reply to your pissant denials, be happy I'm just asking if you've been smoking that Kool-Aid again. :roll:

Best I can come up with? Give me a break. The article completely destroys your entire premiss for hating Bush so much. Like I said, PROVE that he lied. You cant. Its just fun for you to say that. You need something to take all of your pent up anger out on for whatever reason and Bush just happens to be your target!

This article is pretty damning of the "Bush lied" argument and if all you can come up with is fluff to insult me, then again it just proves how weak your argument is to begin with. Bush didnt lie, those who served under him trusted the wrong people which we now know was an obvious mistake.
 

Phokus

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How the hell did Clinton get into this discussion?

Although German intelligence officials warned the CIA that Curveball's claims of mobile bioweapons labs were unreliable, and U.N. inspectors determined before the war began in 2003 that parts of his story were false, the Bush administration continued to promote the existence of such mobile labs for months after the invasion, until it was widely accepted that they could not be found.

Bush really should be hung for treason.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

Six years of the Bushwhackos TREASON and MURDER, and that's the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

I guess that shows how petty your entire denial is that they've been lying, eviscerating the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution and murdering our own troops. Unless you want me to search for the documentation I've been posting for that entire time and cut and paste all of it in reply to your pissant denials, be happy I'm just asking if you've been smoking that Kool-Aid again. :roll:

Best I can come up with? Give me a break. The article completely destroys your entire premiss for hating Bush so much. Like I said, PROVE that he lied. You cant. Its just fun for you to say that. You need something to take all of your pent up anger out on for whatever reason and Bush just happens to be your target!

This article is pretty damning of the "Bush lied" argument and if all you can come up with is fluff to insult me, then again it just proves how weak your argument is to begin with. Bush didnt lie, those who served under him trusted the wrong people which we now know was an obvious mistake.
He was/is in over his head and is extremely incompetent.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Best I can come up with? Give me a break. The article completely destroys your entire premiss for hating Bush so much. Like I said, PROVE that he lied.

To do it, all I'd have to do is search through several years of posts and links by me and others and put them in a ten foot long thread quoting them. After all this time, if you still believe your own bullshit, reality doesn't mean anything to you so you're welcome to do it yourself.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
So I guess the article in this thread proves its not George W Bush who was lying to us, he just had bad intel. Just like most of us conservatives have been saying all along.

Been smoking that Kool-Aid again? :shocked:

3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

Well, in his defense, he *IS* a child afterall.

At least his posts reflect that. Dont you remember having childish dreams?
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Phokus
How the hell did Clinton get into this discussion?

Although German intelligence officials warned the CIA that Curveball's claims of mobile bioweapons labs were unreliable, and U.N. inspectors determined before the war began in 2003 that parts of his story were false, the Bush administration continued to promote the existence of such mobile labs for months after the invasion, until it was widely accepted that they could not be found.

Bush really should be hung for treason.

How the hell did you miss the reason? Oh. Guess you forgot to read the thread.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
So I guess the article in this thread proves its not George W Bush who was lying to us, he just had bad intel. Just like most of us conservatives have been saying all along.

Been smoking that Kool-Aid again? :shocked:

3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

Corbett, if a friend of yours tells you that some drunk guy with a huge conflict of interest had told him something, but he wouldn't say who, would you then start asking people to risk and lose their lives, based on the information, by spreading the word how you had 'solid info' they could rely on it was accurate?

If you can't see how that's at least incredibly irresponsible, and lying at least in the sense of misrepresenting the solid level of the info... you have issues.

And if you had a huge interests in pushing the point that the info helped with, as Bush had a huge interest in pushing war with Iraq, then it's worse.

Carig, you are the last person to tell someone they have issues. Again, you may be correct that the Bush admin trusted the wrong people for intel; however, that does not come anywhere close to the same thing as lying to Americans to go to war.

In other words, you won't answer what I said.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
So I guess the article in this thread proves its not George W Bush who was lying to us, he just had bad intel. Just like most of us conservatives have been saying all along.

Been smoking that Kool-Aid again? :shocked:

3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

Corbett, if a friend of yours tells you that some drunk guy with a huge conflict of interest had told him something, but he wouldn't say who, would you then start asking people to risk and lose their lives, based on the information, by spreading the word how you had 'solid info' they could rely on it was accurate?

If you can't see how that's at least incredibly irresponsible, and lying at least in the sense of misrepresenting the solid level of the info... you have issues.

And if you had a huge interests in pushing the point that the info helped with, as Bush had a huge interest in pushing war with Iraq, then it's worse.

Carig, you are the last person to tell someone they have issues. Again, you may be correct that the Bush admin trusted the wrong people for intel; however, that does not come anywhere close to the same thing as lying to Americans to go to war.

In other words, you won't answer what I said.

In other words, based on your previous crazy posts Im not even going to bother with you and your "what ifs" you are always throwing around. Your example doesnt even come close to comparing this situation.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Best I can come up with? Give me a break. The article completely destroys your entire premiss for hating Bush so much. Like I said, PROVE that he lied.

To do it, all I'd have to do is search through several years of posts and links by me and others and put them in a ten foot long thread quoting them. After all this time, if you still believe your own bullshit, reality doesn't mean anything to you so you're welcome to do it yourself.

Harvey, I searched and all I found was :

"war of lies"
"bush crime family"
"illegal and immoral war"
"treason"
"who's watching over you"
"foad putz"
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Best I can come up with? Give me a break. The article completely destroys your entire premiss for hating Bush so much. Like I said, PROVE that he lied.

To do it, all I'd have to do is search through several years of posts and links by me and others and put them in a ten foot long thread quoting them. After all this time, if you still believe your own bullshit, reality doesn't mean anything to you so you're welcome to do it yourself.

All your bullshit copy and paste quotes show is that Bush was wrong. You have yet to prove that Bush lied.

Edit - And don't even bother responding if all you are going to do is go on another one of your lunatic rants, or one of your stupid ass emoticon filled insults.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Yeahup, Clinton didn't use that intel to go to war in Iraq. Instead he gave us stories about 100,000 in mass graves to send us into a different war. Did we find mass graves? Supposedly, but not anywhere close what Clinton claimed, just like we found WMDs, but not the stockpiles Bush claimed.

Do we still have soldiers in Bosnia?

But nobody cared when Clinton lied and people died. Instead we have gits like Harvey who make excuses and seems to believe that capitalized and bolded words, repeated over and over again like some loon banging his head against the padded cell, are the pinnacle of debate on internet forums.

:roll:
Americans didn't die and the mission was successful unlike Iraq.
Yet only 36% of the US public supported Bill's excellent adventure. Isn't public support the primary determining factor for going to war? Reading some of the replies in this forum you'd think that to be the sole determining factor.

And of course the mission was a success. We had troops there for 10 friggin years and we still didn't catch some of the biggest offenders in Bosnia.

Heck of a job, Billsie. :thumbsup:

 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Best I can come up with? Give me a break. The article completely destroys your entire premiss for hating Bush so much. Like I said, PROVE that he lied.

To do it, all I'd have to do is search through several years of posts and links by me and others and put them in a ten foot long thread quoting them. After all this time, if you still believe your own bullshit, reality doesn't mean anything to you so you're welcome to do it yourself.

All your bullshit copy and paste quotes show is that Bush was wrong. You have yet to prove that Bush lied.

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
President Bush 3-17-2003

So our president told every one of us citizens that we must go to war because there was NO DOUBT that Iraq had WMD. And all of those articles/reports before we attacked that said we can't be certain? Even if he thought that they probably did...even if those in his administration thought that he probably did...there was plenty of doubt, and for him to say that there wasn't any was a lie.

Whether he was right or wrong, can't you admit that your president lied to you when he told you that there was NO DOUBT that Iraq had WMD?
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
So I guess the article in this thread proves its not George W Bush who was lying to us, he just had bad intel. Just like most of us conservatives have been saying all along.

Been smoking that Kool-Aid again? :shocked:

3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

Corbett, if a friend of yours tells you that some drunk guy with a huge conflict of interest had told him something, but he wouldn't say who, would you then start asking people to risk and lose their lives, based on the information, by spreading the word how you had 'solid info' they could rely on it was accurate?

If you can't see how that's at least incredibly irresponsible, and lying at least in the sense of misrepresenting the solid level of the info... you have issues.

And if you had a huge interests in pushing the point that the info helped with, as Bush had a huge interest in pushing war with Iraq, then it's worse.

Carig, you are the last person to tell someone they have issues. Again, you may be correct that the Bush admin trusted the wrong people for intel; however, that does not come anywhere close to the same thing as lying to Americans to go to war.

In other words, you won't answer what I said.

In other words, based on your previous crazy posts Im not even going to bother with you and your "what ifs" you are always throwing around. Your example doesnt even come close to comparing this situation.

You won't answer the question. You can't prove with argument anything wrong with it, you can only make unsupported claims. As usual, because you're an ideologue.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
Best I can come up with? Give me a break. The article completely destroys your entire premiss for hating Bush so much. Like I said, PROVE that he lied.

To do it, all I'd have to do is search through several years of posts and links by me and others and put them in a ten foot long thread quoting them. After all this time, if you still believe your own bullshit, reality doesn't mean anything to you so you're welcome to do it yourself.

All your bullshit copy and paste quotes show is that Bush was wrong. You have yet to prove that Bush lied.

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
President Bush 3-17-2003

So our president told every one of us citizens that we must go to war because there was NO DOUBT that Iraq had WMD. And all of those articles/reports before we attacked that said we can't be certain? Even if he thought that they probably did...even if those in his administration thought that he probably did...there was plenty of doubt, and for him to say that there wasn't any was a lie.

Whether he was right or wrong, can't you admit that your president lied to you when he told you that there was NO DOUBT that Iraq had WMD?
Really given things like this and the quote in your sig from Ari Fleischer, it's a fvcking shame Bush was even re-elected, a travesty in fact. He led his country down a demonstrably injurious path and it celebrated him for it.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Harvey, I searched and all I found was :

"war of lies"
"bush crime family"
"illegal and immoral war"
"treason"
"who's watching over you"
"foad putz"

Search harder. Either you're mouse challenged I guess you didn't listen when your mother told you, if you didn't stop it, you'd go blind. :shocked: :laugh:

It took me only two minutes to find several of my posts with the following list of Bushwhacko lies and incompetence from one of my earlier posts. I warned you, and I apologize in advance for reposting it because it's very long, but since you insist...
  • The "intelligence" fed to Congress and the American people was cherry picked and directed from the top.
  • Rumsfeld set his own parallel "intelligence" operation within DOD when the CIA and FBI couldn't tell him what he wanted to hear.
  • There was no yellow cake uraniium in Niger.
  • There were no aluminum tubes capable of being used in centrifuges process nuclear material.
  • There were no facilities for making nerve gas or biological weapons.
  • There were no long range rockets.
  • There were no WMD's.
  • There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq.
They ignored any information from competent internal sources that ran counter to their ambitions:
  • They ignored all warnings about the possiblity of an attack like 9/11, despite explicit warnings from people like Richard Clarke, former terrorisim advisor to Presidents Reagan, Bush Sr. and Clinton. Richard Clarke also warned Bush that Saddam probably was not tied to 9/11.

    The Bushwhackos didn't want to hear that so they did what any good exec would do -- They fired him.
  • They claimed their pre-war planning included plenty of troops to handle foreseeable problems in the aftermath of their invasion, despite warnings from Army Chief of Staff, Eric Shinseki that they would need around 400,000 troops to do the job.

    The Bushwhackos administration didn't want to hear that so they did what any good exec would do -- They fired him.
  • Before Bush started his war of lies, Ambassador Joseph Wilson was sent to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium. He returned and informed that the reports were false.

    The Bushwhackos administration didn't want to hear that so they did what any good adminstration would do. They outed his wife, Valerie Plame's identity as a covert CIA operative, blowing off her value to our national security and endangering her life and the lives of everyone who ever worked with her anywhere in the world.
Need more lies? Try these:

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction
Dick Cheney, speech to VFW National Convention, Aug. 26, 2002

Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
George W. Bush, speech to UN General Assembly, Sept. 12, 2002

No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
Donald Rumsfeld, testimony to Congress, Sept. 19, 2002

If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
Ari Fleischer, press briefing, Dec. 2, 2002

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Ari Fleischer, press briefing, Jan. 9, 2003

Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard, and VX nerve agent?. The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.
George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003

We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons - the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.
George W. Bush, radio address, Feb. 8, 2003

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
George W. Bush, address to the U.S., March 17, 2003

The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder.
George W. Bush, address to U.S., March 19, 2003

Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly?..All this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.
Ari Fleisher, press briefing, March 21, 2003

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat.
Donald Rumsfeld, ABC interview, March 30, 2003

But make no mistake - as I said earlier - we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about. And we have high confidence it will be found.
Ari Fleischer, press briefing, April 10, 2003

We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.
George W. Bush, NBC interview, April 24, 2003

There are people who in large measure have information that we need?.so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld, press briefing, April 25, 2003

We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.
George W. Bush, remarks to reporters, May 3, 2003

I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.
Colin Powell, remarks to reporters, May 4, 2003

I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein ? because he had a weapons program.
George W. Bush, remarks to reporters, May 6, 2003

We said what we said because we meant it?..We continue to have confidence that WMD will be found.
Ari Fleischer, press briefing, May 7, 2003

You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons....They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on, but for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong. We found them.
George W. Bush, remarks to reporters, May 31, 2003

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.
Condoleeza Rice, Reuters interview, May 12, 2003

We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld, Fox News interview, May 4, 2003

I don't believe anyone that I know in the administration ever said that Iraq had nuclear weapons [SEE NEXT QUOTE].
Donald Rumsfeld, Senate appropriations subcommittee on defense hearing, May 14, 2003

We believe [Hussein] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.
Dick Cheney, NBC's Meet the Press, March 16, 2003

They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.
Donald Rumsfeld, remarks to the Council on Foreign Relations, May 27, 2003

"I think some in the media have chosen to use the word 'imminent.? Those were not words we used. We used 'grave and gathering' threat." [SEE NEXT QUOTES].
Scott McClellan, press briefing, Jan. 31, 2004

This is about an imminent threat.
Scott McClellan, press briefing, Feb. 10, 2003

After being asked whether Hussein was an "imminent" threat: "Well, of course he is."
Dan Bartlett, CNN interview, Jan. 26, 2003

After being asked whether the U.S. went to war because officials said Hussein?s alleged weapons were a direct, imminent threat to the U.S.: "Absolutely."
Ari Fleischer, press briefing, May 7, 2003

Your TRAITOR IN CHIEF and his criminal cabal of are guilty of the MURDER of every American troop who has died in their war of LIES and of TREASON for shredding the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution.

If you still want to contend the Bushwhackos didn't lie, either disprove every one of the above, or STFU.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett
So I guess the article in this thread proves its not George W Bush who was lying to us, he just had bad intel. Just like most of us conservatives have been saying all along.

Been smoking that Kool-Aid again? :shocked:

3 years of ranting and raving about how Bush lied. Even going so far as to write a song about it, and this is the best you can come up with?

I guess that just shows how petty your entire argument of Bush "lying" to the American people was to beging with.

Corbett, if a friend of yours tells you that some drunk guy with a huge conflict of interest had told him something, but he wouldn't say who, would you then start asking people to risk and lose their lives, based on the information, by spreading the word how you had 'solid info' they could rely on it was accurate?

If you can't see how that's at least incredibly irresponsible, and lying at least in the sense of misrepresenting the solid level of the info... you have issues.

And if you had a huge interests in pushing the point that the info helped with, as Bush had a huge interest in pushing war with Iraq, then it's worse.

Carig, you are the last person to tell someone they have issues. Again, you may be correct that the Bush admin trusted the wrong people for intel; however, that does not come anywhere close to the same thing as lying to Americans to go to war.

In other words, you won't answer what I said.

In other words, based on your previous crazy posts Im not even going to bother with you and your "what ifs" you are always throwing around. Your example doesnt even come close to comparing this situation.

You won't answer the question. You can't prove with argument anything wrong with it, you can only make unsupported claims. As usual, because you're an ideologue.

To asnwer you question...of course I wouldn't. But if I would, that still would not make me a liar.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Your TRAITOR IN CHIEF and his criminal cabal of are guilty of the MURDER of every American troop who has died in their war of LIES and of TREASON for shredding the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution.

If you still want to contend the Bushwhackos didn't lie, either disprove every one of the above, or STFU.

I love how the "Bush lied" crowd always posts every quote from republicans on the lead up to the war, and not a single quote from a democrat. Completely exposes agenda.
 

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This is the same intel we were told shortly after the war began was questionable. In fact, GWB was informed of that before he bagan posturing to Iraq, and still he invaded.

The war was not started over phony inteligence - that more bushit. It's all about oil, money and power. The phony story given to the public has nothing to do with it, and never did, and never will.

Why are people bringing up Clinton? He does not have anything to do with information that came from the White house after January, 2000. And yes, I mean "from" the White house, not "to" the White House.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Yeahup, Clinton didn't use that intel to go to war in Iraq. Instead he gave us stories about 100,000 in mass graves to send us into a different war. Did we find mass graves? Supposedly, but not anywhere close what Clinton claimed, just like we found WMDs, but not the stockpiles Bush claimed.

Do we still have soldiers in Bosnia?

But nobody cared when Clinton lied and people died. Instead we have gits like Harvey who make excuses and seems to believe that capitalized and bolded words, repeated over and over again like some loon banging his head against the padded cell, are the pinnacle of debate on internet forums.

:roll:
Americans didn't die and the mission was successful unlike Iraq.
Yet only 36% of the US public supported Bill's excellent adventure. Isn't public support the primary determining factor for going to war? Reading some of the replies in this forum you'd think that to be the sole determining factor.

And of course the mission was a success. We had troops there for 10 friggin years and we still didn't catch some of the biggest offenders in Bosnia.

Heck of a job, Billsie. :thumbsup:
No we didn't get them all but we did stabilize that region and prevented it from escalating. I also don't recall the public being against it, at least not the same magnitude they are against the sham in Iraq. I think it was very successful, better planned and better executed.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Yeahup, Clinton didn't use that intel to go to war in Iraq. Instead he gave us stories about 100,000 in mass graves to send us into a different war. Did we find mass graves? Supposedly, but not anywhere close what Clinton claimed, just like we found WMDs, but not the stockpiles Bush claimed.

Do we still have soldiers in Bosnia?

But nobody cared when Clinton lied and people died. Instead we have gits like Harvey who make excuses and seems to believe that capitalized and bolded words, repeated over and over again like some loon banging his head against the padded cell, are the pinnacle of debate on internet forums.

:roll:
Americans didn't die and the mission was successful unlike Iraq.
Yet only 36% of the US public supported Bill's excellent adventure. Isn't public support the primary determining factor for going to war? Reading some of the replies in this forum you'd think that to be the sole determining factor.

And of course the mission was a success. We had troops there for 10 friggin years and we still didn't catch some of the biggest offenders in Bosnia.

Heck of a job, Billsie. :thumbsup:

lmao at spinning Bosnia = Iraq and Clinton intel = Bush intel. Bill O'Reilly would be proud!
 
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