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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: beguile
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Here's a tip for you guys that valet your car and care-
tip the valet when you drop off your car. tip the valet when you pick up your car, BEFORE he goes and runs off to get it.
You mean tip the valet twice before and when you pick up your car? Here's a person tip from me, if something happened to you car when you drop it off for valet, speak with the manager in charge and get the shady kid fired.
You need to go back to college and retake your english course again. Clearly, you demonstrate your inability to write proper english.
actually i just don't give a shit. this is fucking ATOT, you want me to type my posts in MLA format or something?
You can talk to the manager if you want, but w/o proof they're not going to be able to do anything. Not to mention, do you WANT to deal with that hassle? Sure you'll get your car repaired, after 2 weeks of BS and a few days w/o your car.
I'm telling it like it is, you can sit there and pick at my english or you can take the post for what it's worth.
I would say 75% of all cars handled by valet's are handled problem free. 25% are dinged, mainly door dings. You valet ticket pays us to do the bare minimum, which is park your car in a stall. ANY stall. a dollar or two at the beginning might net your brand new 911 turbo parked across 3 stalls in the back corner of the lot instead of between a pair of ford excursions tucked in compact stalls.
A few bucks before you pick up your car might mean a 2 minute wait vs a 30 minute wait.
People with such attitudes about tipping piss me off. Tipping is supposed to be out of politeness. If you don't tip, you are an asshole, but there's no reason to be screaming TIP ME if you are someone who works in a job that gets tipped. It's almost like working on hourly pay. If you're anything decent you would be on salary... and not on a tip basis.
Like I said, I agree that it's a douchebag attitude. As a valet, you never know who's gonna be a good tipper and who's not: that guy in a 96 camry could be a better tipper than the brand new jaguar (and usually is, HAHA). It's prejudice, no doubt.
The point I am trying to make is, valets do not know how to differentiate between good tippers (to which they provide SUPERB) service to, and bad tippers (to which they provide BARE MINIMUM) service to.
it makes absolutely no sense on the consumer end to tip after the fact IF you want guaranteed good service. I see your point, that tips are meant to reward exceptional service. However, to highly increase your chances of getting exceptional service, it makes more sense to tip before, rather than after.
Valets are not entitled to tips. They GET tips for exceptional service (which EVERY customer IS entitled to, BTW). If they want a tip, then they better give EVERYONE exceptional service. If their service falls below exceptional, then they get (and deserve) a smaller, or no, tip. Sometimes they get screwed by cheap tippers, but that's life.
The sense of entitlement by people in the service industries is amazing.
(BTW, I worked in many tip-based professions in my life.)
MotionMan
That's a nice fantasy world you live in.
Here is a real world example for you, so I can clarify my position.
10 cars to pull, 3 valets. Assume that all valet's offer "exceptional service". They run and get cars in order, you tip them afterwards for "exceptional service". If you were the 10th car, and tipped afterwards for said "exceptional service", you would receive your car in say 7 minutes. Alternatively, you could've tipped the guy at the beginning, received same "exceptional service", and gotten your car in 2 minutes vs. 7 minutes.
This situation is an ideal small rush scenario. If you are at a busy, BUSY location, valet wait times can be up to 30 minutes. I am TELLING YOU how you can bypass a 30 minute wait.
Here is a little real world example for you: If the guy behind me gets his car before I do, then my tip will be adjusted accordingly.
MotionMan
That's fine, enjoy your wait haha. I'm not saying your position is unjustified, but that still doesn't change the fact that you're gonna wait longer for your car. I tip my valet's before they get my car, they appreciate it, work harder, and all is well.