Security= overrated?

notposting

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I think it's overrated. What's the worst that could happen?

Your computer compromised, total reinstall needed. Files, photos, music lost.
Your financial information compromised, your credit rating goes to crap, unable to get credit for a car, home, possibly affect employability.
Compromising information used against you for blackmail purposes.
Time and money spent dealing with these problems.

Totally overrated!

(I love seeing things like don't bother with AV, don't bother updating, turn off system security features like UAC, etc etc)
 

VirtualLarry

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I remember one time a few years back, and someone (a guest) saw me using my computer. I think that it was in the days of W2K, or early XP. I was using Mozilla and a software firewall. Their comment? "Wow, you must be paranoid!"

People that think good web security is paranoia, are idiots. I get paid to clean up their computers in the aftermath of an infection.
 

PrincessFrosty

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The trick with security is to apply an appropriate amount of it for your circumstance, there's things I own or I'm responsible for that have no security, some things have a lot because they're important.

Basic computer security is a no brainer.
 

smakme7757

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I remember one time a few years back, and someone (a guest) saw me using my computer. I think that it was in the days of W2K, or early XP. I was using Mozilla and a software firewall. Their comment? "Wow, you must be paranoid!"

People that think good web security is paranoia, are idiots. I get paid to clean up their computers in the aftermath of an infection.

The trick with security is to apply an appropriate amount of it for your circumstance, there's things I own or I'm responsible for that have no security, some things have a lot because they're important.

Basic computer security is a no brainer.
These comments summarize what I believe.

Our home network is most likely the most secure in the area or even the city - Hell it's most likely more secure than most businesses in the area. My wife has no idea how secure it is because for her it just works. That's how security should be, it should be as transparent as possible and at the same time providing security that the network actually requires.

Security can be of a high standard without being intrusive, at least up until a certain level.

Security is not overrated because it's a necessity that most people believe is only reserved for the military and banks.

A simple question like: "How much is your life saving worth to you?"
Will usually yield an answer like "A lot!".

Another simple question is: "Do you care if you neighbor can browse your computer?"
Answer is usually like "Of course i care, are you stupid!"

Even though people, instinctively value their privacy and security they still consider the theme of "security" something that is reserved for "Matters of national security ".

However I fully understand that end users just want to use a PC to get their work done so they can do something else. It's those people who usually get caught out. Where are they going to learn about Phishing or safe web habbits if they don't have an interest for it?
 

Sheep221

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I take security seriously to the point I can't be harmed if anything happens.

My precautions:
Standard windows firewall and MSE, always up to date OS.

If someone would sniff my e-banking account credentials, it's still useless because they can only read the stuff without physical grid card I have with me.
If someone would steal my credit card info they still can't spend alot of money from account because I have it set only for small ($50) transactions. The bank just won't allow to charge more.
If I would get encrypting-based attack, they can fuck themselves because I'm making myself a frequent backups of all my stuff.
If someone would steal my FB account login I wouldn't really be bothered because there are no data in it in fact, I only use it as chat window to talk to peeps I previously had in ICQ and MSN, it's all that simple, and I'm sure no one will be going after my AT account
 

turgenjev1

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I don't think that security is overrated, especially if you shop online. What is someone steals your bank account information?
On the home computer, firewall + antivirus + antispyware are necessary.
 

John Connor

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I take security so seriously that I have the laptop hard drive passworded, I use a Truecrypt container with my browser and Putty portable in it, I use a Firewall (Comodo), anti-virus (Bitdefender Free) and have security precautions in the router flashed with DD-WRT along with a slew of IP Tables to block a Xmas attack, DDoS attack, port scanners etc. Did I mention the huge amount of security add-ons I use for Firefox? LOL!

When I get my new router I will install Optware and increase my security 10 fold! I will be blocking the whole Asia-pacific rim. LOL! You would think the U.S government had sense to do that!

Having no security is like driving without a seat belt. Sure you could get away with it, but eventually you may have an accident and things won't be pretty. But like a seat belt it has flaws. Let me clarify. Like what happens when a seat belt jams and you can't remove it in a burning car or when you drive into a body of water. Hell! Air bags have flaws. And when they go off you break your nose on the damn thing! That freaking hurts like hell!!!
 
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Scarinx

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@John Conner i think you are getting sidetracked a bit but to answer the thread
security = overrated i dont think so because everytime you rely on security or you could not have a trouble free time on the computer. If their was no security any thing you buy online your credit card would be compromised also if their was no security how would you like if everyone knew about your dirty internet browsing history
I could go one but i will finish my rant and say that your statement is incorrect and someday you might regret not putting the effort into security
/end of rant.
 

ForumMaster

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obvious troll is obvious. Naer has trolled in every thread thread he has posted in. while this is a topic that might be worthy of discussion, don't expect anything else out of of this OP.
 

tential

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Haven't used a single av in years. No issues/stolen cc/etc.as Of yet. Don't even have windows firewall on or do updates. Realize most issues I had were from shoddy warez type sites. I stopped going onto shoddy sights haven't had an issue since.

Faster for me to do a complete reinstall than a virus scan.
 

ultimatebob

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All of the antivirus software and firewalls in the world aren't going to always protect you from that dummy who clicks on every e-mail attachment they receive. And, yeah, giving them an non admin account helps, but not always.

The best security policy is still the one between your ears.
 

Red Squirrel

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It's not only malware and hackers you have to worry about in this day and age, but the government too. (specifically the NSA)

Security is more important than it ever was before.

Not only do you want to protect your home systems you want to protect your information. Don't put sensitive info on the cloud, be careful what you put on Facebook etc...

People like to post on Facebook their whole daily lives, such as what restaurant they're at. That's information that could be used against you in court at some point. It's not only firewall and AV you have to worry about these days, you really need to look at the big picture.
 
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