Seinfeld rant

ManyBeers

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....that has always bugged me. In this particular scene Jerry ,Elaine ,and Kramer are in Jerry's apartment when Kramer gets a call from a woman who asks him if he would babysit her son that night while she is out. He says 'yes' hangs up the phone and explains what the call was about to Jerry and Elaine. Upon hearing this Elaine say's she is more responsible than Kramer and she should have been asked ...and this is the part what bugs me...Kramer says in a most condescending and matter-of-fact way..."Don't be ridiculous". And pretty much the scene ends right there.(As if the writers and director of the show agree with the statement and there is no rebuttal).
I never understood how the writers of the show could give that statement any credibility in light of who said it to whom. There is no way that Kramer is more responsible than Elaine. In other words i feel that statement was completely out in left field and senseless. It has no relationship to any Seinfeld shows.

Anyone agree or even care?

Rant over
 

jfall

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That's just Kramer. He is in his own little world and believes that he is much more special and capable than he is. All the characters on the show and the viewers of the show know he is a klutz, thus it's funny when he says he is more responsible when he clearly isn't.
 

akshatp

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Is that the only episode of Seinfeld you have ever watched OP? Because you obvioulsy dont understand the role each character plays in the series. That scene you described right there is why Seinfeld was so successful as a show. It doesnt have to make sense in "reality.' If it did, they show would have sucked.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: jfall
That's just Kramer. He is in his own little world and believes that he is much more special and capable than he is. All the characters on the show and the viewers of the show know he is a klutz, thus it's funny when he says he is more responsible when he clearly isn't.

It was not said sarcastically is what i am getting at. That is why i mentioned how the scene ends there. As if the writers agree.

 

TecHNooB

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Originally posted by: akshatp
Is that the only episode of Seinfeld you have ever watched OP? Because you obvioulsy dont understand the role each character plays in the series. That scene you described right there is why Seinfeld was so successful as a show. It doesnt have to make sense in "reality.' If it did, they show would have sucked.

The show claims to be about nothing but every episode has its own mini storyline. The op's rant is valid.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: akshatp
Is that the only episode of Seinfeld you have ever watched OP? Because you obvioulsy dont understand the role each character plays in the series. That scene you described right there is why Seinfeld was so successful as a show. It doesnt have to make sense in "reality.' If it did, they show would have sucked.



I have seen every episode many times. The statement is made in such a way that the"show" agrees with it, if you get my drift.
 

akshatp

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Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: akshatp
Is that the only episode of Seinfeld you have ever watched OP? Because you obvioulsy dont understand the role each character plays in the series. That scene you described right there is why Seinfeld was so successful as a show. It doesnt have to make sense in "reality.' If it did, they show would have sucked.

The show claims to be about nothing but every episode has its own mini storyline. The op's rant is valid.

Viewers claimed the show was about nothing. The show's cast or writers never claimed that. People just assumed this after they had the episode where Jerry/George write the pilot about "nothing"
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: loup garou
Worst post ever.

Are you kidding! Not even close to my worst.

ps: would you mind give me a 4-5 rating since you seem to be just neffing?
 

her209

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Kramer IS more responsible than Elaine. Elaine spend $10,000 on a hat in which George Costanza gave away.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: her209
Kramer IS more responsible than Elaine. Elaine spend $10,000 on a hat in which George Costanza gave away.

One incident, i think on the whole Elaine is more responsible.
 

pstylesss

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...which is why i laugh at that scene, every time.

Your rant sucks.


EDIT: How do you not understand the funny in that.

And Seinfeld was about nothing, in that it didn't have a main plot. "The Pilot" and the show "Jerry" was about the show itself... meaning they did think it was essentially about nothing. They devoted an entire episode to waiting in a restaurant for a table.
 

Glitchny

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: her209
Kramer IS more responsible than Elaine. Elaine spend $10,000 on a hat in which George Costanza gave away.

One incident, i think on the whole Elaine is more responsible.

Ummm Elaine is more responsible, that's obvious. In fact that is the entire reason that the line Kramer delivers is funny....

Kramer says dont be ridiculous and then the show moves on because it is supposed to be viewed as a joke. In terms of the show kramer doesnt say it sarcastically because in his mind and in his world he is completely serious about being more responsible. that's why it is funny.
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: warlord
Are you serious?

:laugh: aahahahhahaha


You're one of those stereotypical trekkie nerds who point out tiny little flaws in the episodes aren't you?
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: her209
Kramer IS more responsible than Elaine. Elaine spend $10,000 on a hat in which George Costanza gave away.

One incident, i think on the whole Elaine is more responsible.

Ummm Elaine is more responsible, that's obvious. In fact that is the entire reason that the line Kramer delivers is funny....

Kramer says dont be ridiculous and then the show moves on because it is supposed to be viewed as a joke. In terms of the show kramer doesnt say it sarcastically because in his mind and in his world he is completely serious about being more responsible. that's why it is funny.

I didn't see the line or his delivery as intended to be humorous. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: warlord
Are you serious?

:laugh: aahahahhahaha


You're one of those stereotypical trekkie nerds who point out tiny little flaws in the episodes aren't you?

No. Just this particular line and the way it was delivered made no sense to me.
 

RaistlinZ

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: her209
Kramer IS more responsible than Elaine. Elaine spend $10,000 on a hat in which George Costanza gave away.

One incident, i think on the whole Elaine is more responsible.

Ummm Elaine is more responsible, that's obvious. In fact that is the entire reason that the line Kramer delivers is funny....

Kramer says dont be ridiculous and then the show moves on because it is supposed to be viewed as a joke. In terms of the show kramer doesnt say it sarcastically because in his mind and in his world he is completely serious about being more responsible. that's why it is funny.

I didn't see the line or his delivery of it as humorous. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Then you obviously know nothing about comical writing or the show itself. The fact that Kramer can believe with such conviction that he is more responsible is what makes it funny. You're much too critical a thinker to really enjoy the comic style of the show.

And, Elaine wasn't all that responisble herself:

She spent $10,000 on a hat using company money.

She over-spent $5,000 on a set of J.F.K. golf clubs.

She couldn't be trusted to wake up the marathon runner on time.

... just to name a few.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: her209
Kramer IS more responsible than Elaine. Elaine spend $10,000 on a hat in which George Costanza gave away.

One incident, i think on the whole Elaine is more responsible.

Ummm Elaine is more responsible, that's obvious. In fact that is the entire reason that the line Kramer delivers is funny....

Kramer says dont be ridiculous and then the show moves on because it is supposed to be viewed as a joke. In terms of the show kramer doesnt say it sarcastically because in his mind and in his world he is completely serious about being more responsible. that's why it is funny.

I didn't see the line or his delivery of it as humorous. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Then you obviously know nothing about comical writing or the show itself. The fact that Kramer can believe with such conviction that he is more responsible is what makes it funny. You're much too critical a thinker to really enjoy the comic style of the show.

And, Elaine wasn't all that responisble herself:

She spent $10,000 on a hat using company money.

She over-spent $5,000 on a set of J.F.K. golf clubs.

She couldn't be trusted to wake up the marathon runner on time.

... just to name a few.

Kramer burned down the Ross's cabin, leaves Jerry's door open so his tv gets stolen, etc...but he has never held a job and most people would consider that a clear sign of irresponsibilty. In fact he has no occupation other thanone time bagel maker.












 
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