[Semiaccurate] GK104/Kepler/GTX680 Next Week?

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Awkward

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What is your obsession with bringing in Apple fanboys to your strange arguments. You must secretly want a Ipad HD this Friday ? LOL
Because all rabid fanboys act in a similar manner? It's honestly not hard to see the correlation.
 

Crap Daddy

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I'm sure the Radeon HD 5870 wasn't the fastest single-GPU card for six months. I'm also sure the HD 5970 was slower than the fastest NVIDIA had until the GTX 590 was released, the GTX 295 and GTX 480. Speaking of the GTX 590, I'm sure the HD 6990 was slower too and they didn't have the same performance.

AMD hasn't been able to compete with the cards below those, either, when it comes either to performance or price. The HD 4850, 4870, 5670, 5770, 5850, 6790, 6850, 6870, and 6950 NEVER existed. I just made them up.

As far as I know GT8xxx was in competition with HD3xxx, GTX2xx was in competition with HD4xxx, GTX4xx was with HD5xxx and GTX5xx with HD6xxx. Wasn't talking at all about dual GPU cards. It's irrelevant when they were on the market. And now you have the HD7xxx against GTX6xx. As for cards below the top performer I never said anything.
 

NIGELG

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So many Nostradamuses around....Nvidia WILL do this and AMD WILL do that .....sigh.
 

lavaheadache

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I'm sure the Radeon HD 5870 wasn't the fastest single-GPU card for six months. I'm also sure the HD 5970 was slower than the fastest NVIDIA had until the GTX 590 was released, the GTX 295 and GTX 480. Speaking of the GTX 590, I'm sure the HD 6990 was slower too and they didn't have the same performance.

AMD hasn't been able to compete with the cards below those, either, when it comes either to performance or price. The HD 4850, 4870, 5670, 5770, 5850, 6790, 6850, 6870, and 6950 NEVER existed. I just made them up.

I was reading this post with my sarcasm meter turned off and was like wtf.... then I got to the end and felt really stupid.
 

lavaheadache

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No, the tension is sort of fabricated. Was it because of Charlie D's "prediction" that everyone is having a heart attack?

Well, it serves them right listening to that guy, LOL :biggrin:

The tension may very well be fabricated but this day in age 2 weeks are (is ?, having a duh moment) an eternity and Kepler is no where to be found 2 months after Tahiti. Whether or not that fits their original timeline, techies have no patience.
 
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Quantos

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If they say it's in two weeks, they'll be attacked and it'll be called paper launch. If they say two months, they'll be attacked for not offering competition to AMD. You know what dude, they can't win. All they can do, is do what they do. Which is quite impressive to me.

Probably not the consensus, but I don't see what's wrong about a paper launch. I'd rather have a paper launch than nothing at all.
 

AnandThenMan

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If they say it's in two weeks, they'll be attacked and it'll be called paper launch. If they say two months, they'll be attacked for not offering competition to AMD. You know what dude, they can't win. All they can do, is do what they do. Which is quite impressive to me.
If Nvidia says they are paper launching on a certain date, availability on this day, what's the problem? AMD did that for 3 separate launches now for SI. I think it's pretty funny that what you find impressive is absolutely no information at all.
 

TestKing123

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Nonsense, you clearly have trouble reading or applying common sense even if I can't count. Try taking another look without the rose tinted Nvidia Spectacles on. In the most demanding games the 6990 is ahead, Batman is a well known Nvidia outlier (clearly designed to run like crap on AMD hardware) and I think most would agree that 47.5 fps vs 40 in Metro 2033 is rather more significant than 96fps vs 101in Dirt 3. Clearly you are devoid of sense when analysing GPU performance charts. Gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case.

I object. The case presented by Jacky60 is so absurdly biased and reaching that any competent jury of the civilized world would toss his argument out.

You managed to find ONE benchmark where the 6990 is a whopping 7.5 frames per second ahead of the 590 (which can just as easily be cherry picked for the other side), but where are these other cases where the 6990 is "way ahead" of the 590 (in your own words). Note the bold above. Please reference those games specifically.

What I and the rest of the world sees is precisely what I stated before. For many games the 6990/590 are statistically comparable in performance. In cases where the 6990 wins, it wins only marginally. When the 590 wins, it wins big.

Of course, feel free to try and justify the money you wasted further :lol:
 

TestKing123

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BTW today proves that Charlie is full of it.

No profanity, guys
-ViRGE
 
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blackened23

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I object. The case presented by Jacky60 is so absurdly biased and reaching that any competent jury of the civilized world would toss his argument out.

You managed to find ONE benchmark where the 6990 is a whopping 7.5 frames per second ahead of the 590 (which can just as easily be cherry picked for the other side), but where are these other cases where the 6990 is "way ahead" of the 590 (in your own words). Note the bold above. Please reference those games specifically.

What I and the rest of the world sees is precisely what I stated before. For many games the 6990/590 are statistically comparable in performance. In cases where the 6990 wins, it wins only marginally. When the 590 wins, it wins big.

Of course, feel free to try and justify the money you wasted further :lol:

:thumbsdown:
 

ShadowOfMyself

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I dont see it either... I actually think paper launches are a good thing, considering the alternative

Plus, paper launches prevent impulse buys, since you will know exactly what you are getting into well before you spend your money... And for those wondering if they should buy an AMD card or wait, it would also kill their doubts at once
 

3DVagabond

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I'm sure they offer the best they can produce. As usual lately, Nvidia offers a better performer.

As usual lately? How about as of right now? Also, we need to define what is "better performer". One card that's 10%-15% faster and 20%-25% more expensive, by many people's standard, wouldn't be considered a better performer. Then there's all of the other cards that make up the bulk of the market. Not much to claim a definitive victory on there.

I think the 2 companies are more comparable in overall performance than the rabid fans of either would like to admit. Why, I don't know?
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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As far as I know GT8xxx was in competition with HD3xxx, GTX2xx was in competition with HD4xxx, GTX4xx was with HD5xxx and GTX5xx with HD6xxx. Wasn't talking at all about dual GPU cards. It's irrelevant when they were on the market. And now you have the HD7xxx against GTX6xx. As for cards below the top performer I never said anything.

Deflect!

People with the same mentality as you are funny.

The 200 series was in competition with the 4000 series AND 5000 series, and the 400 series was in competition with the 5000 series.

As far as current cards go the 7000 series is in competition with the 500 series and shortly the 600 series.
 
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Grooveriding

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I object. The case presented by Jacky60 is so absurdly biased and reaching that any competent jury of the civilized world would toss his argument out.

You managed to find ONE benchmark where the 6990 is a whopping 7.5 frames per second ahead of the 590 (which can just as easily be cherry picked for the other side), but where are these other cases where the 6990 is "way ahead" of the 590 (in your own words). Note the bold above. Please reference those games specifically.

What I and the rest of the world sees is precisely what I stated before. For many games the 6990/590 are statistically comparable in performance. In cases where the 6990 wins, it wins only marginally. When the 590 wins, it wins big.

Of course, feel free to try and justify the money you wasted further :lol:

590 is the biggest turd released recently. Top end premium card manufactured like crap with cheap components that incinerates with overclocking and needed a driver patch to throttle the card to make up for its cheap/poor design. Not exactly a card I would be racing to champion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFqxn804Vmk&feature=fvst

Certainly was a fun card launch though. Really enjoyed all the damage control being thrown around. :sneaky:
 

JAG87

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590 is the biggest turd released recently. Top end premium card manufactured like crap with cheap components that incinerates with overclocking and needed a driver patch to throttle the card to make up for its cheap/poor design. Not exactly a card I would be racing to champion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFqxn804Vmk&feature=fvst

Certainly was a fun card launch though. Really enjoyed all the damage control being thrown around. :sneaky:


I really hate BS generic statements like this. Out of one card all the internet trolls divulge that 590s catch fire. Find me even just ONE other source of a 590 catching fire.
 

n0x1ous

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I really hate BS generic statements like this. Out of one card all the internet trolls divulge that 590s catch fire. Find me even just ONE other source of a 590 catching fire.

Dont' get him going! Groove has spent years of his life posting/detailing the issues with the 590 digging up every possible issue the card has ever had
 

ronnn

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They missed their launch day? The top card is delayed forever and the second tier card can't get out the door.

Time for some fun facts I suppose.
 

blackened23

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I really hate BS generic statements like this. Out of one card all the internet trolls divulge that 590s catch fire. Find me even just ONE other source of a 590 catching fire.

Good GRIEF make it end, everyone just stop talking about the 590 and 6990. :thumbsup:
 
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