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Aimster

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Meuge
Nobody needs to invade Iran. We need to destroy their nuclear facilities... and possibly other research sites as well. Given the choice between unfairly depriving Iran of the chance to build nuclear weapons, and the danger that one of those weapons would kill my family or myself, I'll take the former over the latter.

I don't think we should try to destroy their nuclear facilities. Thats a bad option IMO. We need to get the UN, specifically Russia and China to apply more pressure on them to turn things around.
They won't.

Russia is trying to get on the good side of the Muslim world.

Russia's policy in the ME is driven by 3 factors:
1. Pleasing its own population through supporting any state which is a foe of Israel
2. Pleasing the muslims by supporting states that are foes of Israel.
3. Economic impact of their military and civilian contracts in the ME.

All of these factors contradict our policies in the ME.

And finally, both Russia and China are interested in the continuing conflict in the middle east (especially China), since it destabilizes the Western powers, and will allow them to take a more prominent role in the world.


Are you still posting you ISRAEL PARANOIA BULLSHvT. Not everyone is out to get them. Get over it.

...It seems that if Israel's leaders shared the same unwarranted paranoia as you do, then they would be the greater threat of using nuclear weapons.

Israel is not better than Iran in ANY way, shape, or form. They both have extremists. They both have (had in the case of Sharon) dangerous people in power, and they both have questionable tactics in dealing with each other. To allow Israel to have nuclear weapons, simply because they are an ally of the US, and refuse that same right to Iran is unacceptable.

There will be no peace in the ME if, in an area, predominantly surrounded by muslims, the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons, is a non-muslim one.

Unacceptable!

If they were both put on the same level, i'm sure all of the problems there would not exist. But right now, Israel has all the power/sympathy. Either let Iran pursue it's program, or disallow/remove Israel's program. It's that simple.

Reading your posts I would have thought you of all people would <3 the current Iranian regime.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Why would Russia be anti-Israel when the largest population in Israel is Russian?
They are not Russian. They are Jews from Russia.

Trust me, there is a reason why these people are in Israel, and not in Russia - it's because Russia is one of the most racist, ethnocentric, and xenophobic countries in the world. They wouldn't accept Ashkenazi jews as equal members of their society even after they've been living there for 200+ years.

If you don't count heavily muslim countries (which are antisemitic because of Israel), Russia is probably the most natively antisemitic country in the world. [Edit] Nevermind, Ukraine is (and there are at least as many Ukrainian Jews as Russian, in Israel).

Please familiarize yourself with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism#Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Why would Russia be anti-Israel when the largest population in Israel is Russian?

M.E military purchases from Russia is so minimal it is less than 1% of their GDP.

Russia stills suffers from illusions of grandois.

Their political climate blames the situation on the US/West.

We (collectively) were responsible for showing the failure of their system and the collapse of the power base.

Therefore; resent exists.

As long as we support Israel, Russia political leadership will attempt for use the existing hatred of ISrael to leverage their influence.

Political power to them is more important than economic. They demonstrated that for close to 100 years;

 

IdioticBuffoon

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Given the choice between unfairly depriving Iran of the chance to build nuclear weapons, and the danger that one of those weapons would kill my family or myself, I'll take the former over the latter.

Thank you for that admission. I think you are more likely to be killed on a vacation by an angry mob because of your (now detested) nationality than from a nuclear weapon by Iran.

I think Iran obtaining the technology would only correct the imbalance of power in the region.
 

dahunan

Lifer
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I think this is a great idea

Iran should be allowed to defend itself anyway she sees fit.
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Meuge
Nobody needs to invade Iran. We need to destroy their nuclear facilities... and possibly other research sites as well. Given the choice between unfairly depriving Iran of the chance to build nuclear weapons, and the danger that one of those weapons would kill my family or myself, I'll take the former over the latter.

I don't think we should try to destroy their nuclear facilities. Thats a bad option IMO. We need to get the UN, specifically Russia and China to apply more pressure on them to turn things around.
They won't.

Russia is trying to get on the good side of the Muslim world.

Russia's policy in the ME is driven by 3 factors:
1. Pleasing its own population through supporting any state which is a foe of Israel
2. Pleasing the muslims by supporting states that are foes of Israel.
3. Economic impact of their military and civilian contracts in the ME.

All of these factors contradict our policies in the ME.

And finally, both Russia and China are interested in the continuing conflict in the middle east (especially China), since it destabilizes the Western powers, and will allow them to take a more prominent role in the world.


Are you still posting you ISRAEL PARANOIA BULLSHvT. Not everyone is out to get them. Get over it.

...It seems that if Israel's leaders shared the same unwarranted paranoia as you do, then they would be the greater threat of using nuclear weapons.

Israel is not better than Iran in ANY way, shape, or form. They both have extremists. They both have (had in the case of Sharon) dangerous people in power, and they both have questionable tactics in dealing with each other. To allow Israel to have nuclear weapons, simply because they are an ally of the US, and refuse that same right to Iran is unacceptable.

There will be no peace in the ME if, in an area, predominantly surrounded by muslims, the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons, is a non-muslim one.

Unacceptable!

If they were both put on the same level, i'm sure all of the problems there would not exist. But right now, Israel has all the power/sympathy. Either let Iran pursue it's program, or disallow/remove Israel's program. It's that simple.

Reading your posts I would have thought you of all people would <3 the current Iranian regime.


Umm sorry I don't know what <3 is. It looks like a nutsack. So I'm not quite sure what your trying to say.


 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Meuge
Nobody needs to invade Iran. We need to destroy their nuclear facilities... and possibly other research sites as well. Given the choice between unfairly depriving Iran of the chance to build nuclear weapons, and the danger that one of those weapons would kill my family or myself, I'll take the former over the latter.

I don't think we should try to destroy their nuclear facilities. Thats a bad option IMO. We need to get the UN, specifically Russia and China to apply more pressure on them to turn things around.
They won't.

Russia is trying to get on the good side of the Muslim world.

Russia's policy in the ME is driven by 3 factors:
1. Pleasing its own population through supporting any state which is a foe of Israel
2. Pleasing the muslims by supporting states that are foes of Israel.
3. Economic impact of their military and civilian contracts in the ME.

All of these factors contradict our policies in the ME.

And finally, both Russia and China are interested in the continuing conflict in the middle east (especially China), since it destabilizes the Western powers, and will allow them to take a more prominent role in the world.


Are you still posting you ISRAEL PARANOIA BULLSHvT. Not everyone is out to get them. Get over it.

...It seems that if Israel's leaders shared the same unwarranted paranoia as you do, then they would be the greater threat of using nuclear weapons.

Israel is not better than Iran in ANY way, shape, or form. They both have extremists. They both have (had in the case of Sharon) dangerous people in power, and they both have questionable tactics in dealing with each other. To allow Israel to have nuclear weapons, simply because they are an ally of the US, and refuse that same right to Iran is unacceptable.

There will be no peace in the ME if, in an area, predominantly surrounded by muslims, the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons, is a non-muslim one.

Unacceptable!

If they were both put on the same level, i'm sure all of the problems there would not exist. But right now, Israel has all the power/sympathy. Either let Iran pursue it's program, or disallow/remove Israel's program. It's that simple.

Reading your posts I would have thought you of all people would <3 the current Iranian regime.


Umm sorry I don't know what <3 is. It looks like a nutsack. So I'm not quite sure what your trying to say.

<3 = Love
 

techs

Lifer
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Why is everyone worried? The Iranian people will welcome us with open arms.
They're gonna love us when we invade.

/sarcasm
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Meuge
Nobody needs to invade Iran. We need to destroy their nuclear facilities... and possibly other research sites as well. Given the choice between unfairly depriving Iran of the chance to build nuclear weapons, and the danger that one of those weapons would kill my family or myself, I'll take the former over the latter.

I don't think we should try to destroy their nuclear facilities. Thats a bad option IMO. We need to get the UN, specifically Russia and China to apply more pressure on them to turn things around.
They won't.

Russia is trying to get on the good side of the Muslim world.

Russia's policy in the ME is driven by 3 factors:
1. Pleasing its own population through supporting any state which is a foe of Israel
2. Pleasing the muslims by supporting states that are foes of Israel.
3. Economic impact of their military and civilian contracts in the ME.

All of these factors contradict our policies in the ME.

And finally, both Russia and China are interested in the continuing conflict in the middle east (especially China), since it destabilizes the Western powers, and will allow them to take a more prominent role in the world.


Are you still posting you ISRAEL PARANOIA BULLSHvT. Not everyone is out to get them. Get over it.

...It seems that if Israel's leaders shared the same unwarranted paranoia as you do, then they would be the greater threat of using nuclear weapons.

Israel is not better than Iran in ANY way, shape, or form. They both have extremists. They both have (had in the case of Sharon) dangerous people in power, and they both have questionable tactics in dealing with each other. To allow Israel to have nuclear weapons, simply because they are an ally of the US, and refuse that same right to Iran is unacceptable.

There will be no peace in the ME if, in an area, predominantly surrounded by muslims, the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons, is a non-muslim one.

Unacceptable!

If they were both put on the same level, i'm sure all of the problems there would not exist. But right now, Israel has all the power/sympathy. Either let Iran pursue it's program, or disallow/remove Israel's program. It's that simple.

Reading your posts I would have thought you of all people would <3 the current Iranian regime.


Umm sorry I don't know what <3 is. It looks like a nutsack. So I'm not quite sure what your trying to say.

<3 = Love

Well no. I don't love the regime. I am neither Iranian nor Muslim. I just envy them for standing up for themselves. Why all the interest in Iran and not North Korea??? Is it because Lil Kim actually has a nuke and isn't afraid to use it? Or is it that Israeli policy is the most important thing in the white house, or is it because of the soon to be dollar to euro switch in OPEC due to happen in March?

I just find that there is a lot of muslim bashing going on and I'm just trying to even things out.



 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Meuge
Nobody needs to invade Iran. We need to destroy their nuclear facilities... and possibly other research sites as well. Given the choice between unfairly depriving Iran of the chance to build nuclear weapons, and the danger that one of those weapons would kill my family or myself, I'll take the former over the latter.

I don't think we should try to destroy their nuclear facilities. Thats a bad option IMO. We need to get the UN, specifically Russia and China to apply more pressure on them to turn things around.
They won't.

Russia is trying to get on the good side of the Muslim world.

Russia's policy in the ME is driven by 3 factors:
1. Pleasing its own population through supporting any state which is a foe of Israel
2. Pleasing the muslims by supporting states that are foes of Israel.
3. Economic impact of their military and civilian contracts in the ME.

All of these factors contradict our policies in the ME.

And finally, both Russia and China are interested in the continuing conflict in the middle east (especially China), since it destabilizes the Western powers, and will allow them to take a more prominent role in the world.


Are you still posting you ISRAEL PARANOIA BULLSHvT. Not everyone is out to get them. Get over it.

...It seems that if Israel's leaders shared the same unwarranted paranoia as you do, then they would be the greater threat of using nuclear weapons.

Israel is not better than Iran in ANY way, shape, or form. They both have extremists. They both have (had in the case of Sharon) dangerous people in power, and they both have questionable tactics in dealing with each other. To allow Israel to have nuclear weapons, simply because they are an ally of the US, and refuse that same right to Iran is unacceptable.

There will be no peace in the ME if, in an area, predominantly surrounded by muslims, the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons, is a non-muslim one.

Unacceptable!

If they were both put on the same level, i'm sure all of the problems there would not exist. But right now, Israel has all the power/sympathy. Either let Iran pursue it's program, or disallow/remove Israel's program. It's that simple.

Reading your posts I would have thought you of all people would <3 the current Iranian regime.


Umm sorry I don't know what <3 is. It looks like a nutsack. So I'm not quite sure what your trying to say.

<3 = Love

Well no. I don't love the regime. I am neither Iranian nor Muslim. I just envy them for standing up for themselves. Why all the interest in Iran and not North Korea??? Is it because Lil Kim actually has a nuke and isn't afraid to use it? Or is it that Israeli policy is the most important thing in the white house, or is it because of the soon to be dollar to euro switch in OPEC due to happen in March?

I just find that there is a lot of muslim bashing going on and I'm just trying to even things out.

Yeah what I am about to say is going to get me in so much trobule..

Muslim nations (those who are Islamic States) should not have nuclear weapons.
 

raildogg

Lifer
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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Meuge
Nobody needs to invade Iran. We need to destroy their nuclear facilities... and possibly other research sites as well. Given the choice between unfairly depriving Iran of the chance to build nuclear weapons, and the danger that one of those weapons would kill my family or myself, I'll take the former over the latter.

I don't think we should try to destroy their nuclear facilities. Thats a bad option IMO. We need to get the UN, specifically Russia and China to apply more pressure on them to turn things around.
They won't.

Russia is trying to get on the good side of the Muslim world.

Russia's policy in the ME is driven by 3 factors:
1. Pleasing its own population through supporting any state which is a foe of Israel
2. Pleasing the muslims by supporting states that are foes of Israel.
3. Economic impact of their military and civilian contracts in the ME.

All of these factors contradict our policies in the ME.

And finally, both Russia and China are interested in the continuing conflict in the middle east (especially China), since it destabilizes the Western powers, and will allow them to take a more prominent role in the world.


Are you still posting you ISRAEL PARANOIA BULLSHvT. Not everyone is out to get them. Get over it.

...It seems that if Israel's leaders shared the same unwarranted paranoia as you do, then they would be the greater threat of using nuclear weapons.

Israel is not better than Iran in ANY way, shape, or form. They both have extremists. They both have (had in the case of Sharon) dangerous people in power, and they both have questionable tactics in dealing with each other. To allow Israel to have nuclear weapons, simply because they are an ally of the US, and refuse that same right to Iran is unacceptable.

There will be no peace in the ME if, in an area, predominantly surrounded by muslims, the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons, is a non-muslim one.

Unacceptable!

If they were both put on the same level, i'm sure all of the problems there would not exist. But right now, Israel has all the power/sympathy. Either let Iran pursue it's program, or disallow/remove Israel's program. It's that simple.

Reading your posts I would have thought you of all people would <3 the current Iranian regime.


Umm sorry I don't know what <3 is. It looks like a nutsack. So I'm not quite sure what your trying to say.

<3 = Love

Well no. I don't love the regime. I am neither Iranian nor Muslim. I just envy them for standing up for themselves. Why all the interest in Iran and not North Korea??? Is it because Lil Kim actually has a nuke and isn't afraid to use it? Or is it that Israeli policy is the most important thing in the white house, or is it because of the soon to be dollar to euro switch in OPEC due to happen in March?

I just find that there is a lot of muslim bashing going on and I'm just trying to even things out.

Praise Allah, amen.

North Korea already has nukes. Clinton failed miserably, so did Bush in preventing them from getting those weapons. We still have a opportunity to stop Iran. Yes, I know Israel is evil and it is the Little Satan, and I certainly understand its concern.

Yes, you're post is very witty and clever. Kill the infidels.
 

Meuge

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Nov 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Yeah what I am about to say is going to get me in so much trobule..

Muslim nations (those who are Islamic States) should not have nuclear weapons.
No fundamentalist government should have nuclear weapons.
 

envy me

Golden Member
Nov 5, 2005
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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Yeah what I am about to say is going to get me in so much trobule..

Muslim nations (those who are Islamic States) should not have nuclear weapons.
No fundamentalist government should have nuclear weapons.

And as long as Israel is deciding who these fundamentalist nations are we are all safe.

 

dahunan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Yeah what I am about to say is going to get me in so much trobule..

Muslim nations (those who are Islamic States) should not have nuclear weapons.
No fundamentalist government should have nuclear weapons.

What about fundamentalist leaders who wish their govt was completely run on religious principles.. ala mr bush
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Yeah what I am about to say is going to get me in so much trobule..

Muslim nations (those who are Islamic States) should not have nuclear weapons.
No fundamentalist government should have nuclear weapons.

What about fundamentalist leaders who wish their govt was completely run on religious principles.. ala mr bush

That's kind of extreme, isn't it?

This country has freedom of religion more so than any other country.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Yeah what I am about to say is going to get me in so much trobule..

Muslim nations (those who are Islamic States) should not have nuclear weapons.
No fundamentalist government should have nuclear weapons.

What about fundamentalist leaders who wish their govt was completely run on religious principles.. ala mr bush
Since it isn't yet, that's a moot point. But alas, we must all do our part to resist fundamentalism in our own countries.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Why would Russia be anti-Israel when the largest population in Israel is Russian?
They are not Russian. They are Jews from Russia.

Trust me, there is a reason why these people are in Israel, and not in Russia - it's because Russia is one of the most racist, ethnocentric, and xenophobic countries in the world. They wouldn't accept Ashkenazi jews as equal members of their society even after they've been living there for 200+ years.

If you don't count heavily muslim countries (which are antisemitic because of Israel), Russia is probably the most natively antisemitic country in the world. [Edit] Nevermind, Ukraine is (and there are at least as many Ukrainian Jews as Russian, in Israel).

Please familiarize yourself with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism#Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union

It happened that a while back I have discussed this very issue with a Russian friend of mine in college, and he told me that the anti-Jewish sentiment that Jews feel in Russia is due to the direct Jewish involvement in the Bolshevik-Communist movement, if you are wondering why "anti-semetisim" is so heavy in Russia it's because Jewish personnel in Russia were responsible for so many atrocities that history recorded for Russia. I would say

please familiarize yourself with this :

Link
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Why would Russia be anti-Israel when the largest population in Israel is Russian?
They are not Russian. They are Jews from Russia.

Trust me, there is a reason why these people are in Israel, and not in Russia - it's because Russia is one of the most racist, ethnocentric, and xenophobic countries in the world. They wouldn't accept Ashkenazi jews as equal members of their society even after they've been living there for 200+ years.

If you don't count heavily muslim countries (which are antisemitic because of Israel), Russia is probably the most natively antisemitic country in the world. [Edit] Nevermind, Ukraine is (and there are at least as many Ukrainian Jews as Russian, in Israel).

Please familiarize yourself with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism#Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union

It happened that a while back I have discussed this very issue with a Russian friend of mine in college, and he told me that the anti-Jewish sentiment that Jews feel in Russia is due to the direct Jewish involvement in the Bolshevik-Communist movement, if you are wondering why "anti-semetisim" is so heavy in Russia it's because Jewish personnel in Russia were responsible for so many atrocities that history recorded for Russia. I would say

please familiarize yourself with this :

Link

Link isn't coming up at work.

The Bolsheviks.. Those are the ones who, along with their children were murdered by jews during an uprising?

 

raildogg

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Nice link there, Linuxator. Those damn Jews need to be monitored night and day.

Jew watch.

I think it would make the world a lot safer if we rounded up all the Jews. Then there would be no need for Jew watch, right Linuxator?
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Nice link there, Linuxator. Those damn Jews need to be monitored night and day.

Jew watch.

I think it would make the world a lot safer if we rounded up all the Jews. Then there would be no need for Jew watch, right Linuxator?

I don't care about the site itself, check the sources they quote in that page, Britanica ...etc
 

The Linuxator

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"Last Days of the Romanovs," by Robert Wilton, T. Butterworth/London/1920, George H. Doran Publishers/New York/1920, Institute for Historical Review/Virginia Beach CA/2nd Printing 1996, pp. 184-185 -- According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State. . . there were in 1918-1919, 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Letts, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews.

(Encyclopaedia Britannica, Vol. XIII, p. 912) -- "In 1907, May 13 thru June 1, a fifth Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party was held, this time in London. This was the last one held before the 1917 revolution in Czarist Russia. Present: The Bolsheviks, led by Lenin---91 delegates [mostly Jews] The Mensheviks, led by Martov and Dan [JEWS] -- 89 delegates The Polish Social Democrats, led by Rosa Luxemborg [JEW] -- 44 delegates The Jewish Bund, led by Rafael Abramovitch and M.I. Lieber [JEWS)---55 delegates. The Lettish Social Democrats, led by 'Comrade Herman' Danishevsky Lenin [JEW] appeared on the scene, after an absence of nine years."

"The Surrender of an Empire," Nesta H. Webster, Boswell Printing and Publishing Company, Ltd., 10 Essex St., London, W.C.2, 1931, p. 77 -- The Germans, not realizing that he would be anything more than a trouble maker for their World War I enemy, Russia, passed him and his party (exact number disputed -- about 200?) In a sealed train from Switzerland to the Russian border. In Lenin's sealed train, "Out of a list of 165 names published, 23 are Russian, 3 Georgian, 4 Armenian, 1 German, and 128 Jewish."

"The Surrender of an Empire," Nesta H. Webster, Boswell Printing and Publishing Company, Ltd., 10 Essex St., London, W.C.2, 1931, p. 73 -- T"At about the same time, Trotsky arrived from the United States, followed by over 300 Jews from the East End of New York and joined up with the Bolshevik Party".

Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IX, p. 668 -- Thus under Lenin, whose birth-name was Ulianov and whose racial antecedents are uncertain, and under Leon Trotsky, a Jew, whose birth -name was Bronstein, a small number of highly trained Jews from abroad, along with Russian Judaized Khazan and non-Jewish captives to the Marxian ideology, were able to make themselves masters of Russia. "Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous part in the revolution of November, 1917, which enabled the Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus".

[Archivist's and Librarian's Notations.] Here and there in the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. In addition, Stalin was married to a Jewish lady, whose husband, Lazar Kaganovich murdered 35 million Christians and burned down cathedrals, publishing statements of note in Russian newspapers about the new world he was creating by doing this. Whatever the racial antecedents of their top men, the first Soviet commissariats were largely staffed with Jews and the Commissar of Commissars was Leon Trotsky [real name "Bronstein"], a radical, atheist Jew who spent time while exiled from Russia in New York City with hundreds of other active, radical socialist/communist Jews from the Eastern European Pale. The Jewish position in the Communist movement was well understood in Russia.

Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. I, p. 336 -- "The White Armies which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as common enemies".

Those interested in the ratio of Jews to others in the government in the early days of Communist rule in Russia should, if possible, see Les derniers jours des Romanof (The Last Days of the Romanovs) by Robert Wilton, long the Russian correspondent of the London Times quoted above and below.

A summary of its vital passages is included in the "Foreword to Third Edition" of The Mystical Body of Christ in the Modern World (Brown and Nolan , Limited Waterford, Dublin, Belfast, Cork, London, 1939, 1947) by Rev. Dinis Fahey, a well-known Irish professor of philosophy and Church history. Professor Fahey gives names and nationality of the members of the Council of Peoples Commissars, the Central Executive Committee, and the Extraordinary Commissions, and in summary quotes from Wilton.

"Last Days of the Romanovs," by Robert Wilton, T. Butterworth/London/1920, George H. Doran Publishers/New York/1920, Institute for Historical Review/Virginia Beach CA/2nd Printing 1996, pp. 184-185 -- According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State. . . there were in 1918-1919, 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Letts, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews.
 
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