Senate Committee agreed there was Russian meddling

[nickqt]

So in your opinion, this quote was him colluding with Russia on a plan to actually do it?

/shakes head

OK. Some people believe the earth is flat too. Believe what you want I guess. As Ive stated, what I believe is

Trump's campaign staff met with various Russian government officials, hoping to get information that would hurt Clinton and help Trump.

Trump personally asked "Russia" to find Clinton emails, and stated that they would be "rewarded mightily". On video.

But, like, there's no evidence at all that Strongman Trump worked with Russia to get elected President, because, Strongman Trump was just acting childish. Or something.

I mean, look, if you're an apologist, you're an apologist. But don't pretend there isn't direct and indirect evidence that Strongman Trump's campaign wasn't actively working to get information from Russia to help Strongman Trump get elected.

Ignoring that Strongman Trump, said on television, that he wanted Russia's help...well, wow.

Keep on keepin' on I guess.

 

[blackangst1]

Right now no but it’s certainly a very, very odd thing to say. Could this be used to support something else, possibly.

Not really. He's got a hard on for Hillary so it doesnt surprise me he would say something like this.

 

[blackangst1]

I believe you are an idiot, so...

Likewise Thanks for answering.

 

[Jhhnn]

The best part of it all is how Trumpsters deny that they were on the same side of the election as Russian mind benders. If they ever figure it out they'll have to admit that they might have been mistaken. Conservatives aren't very good at that. They're still counting on the trickle down Reagan promised them. It's the flip side of loyalty.

 

[kage69]

"Sen. Tom Cotton, an Arkansas Republican and a frequent defender of Trump's, declined to comment."

Hahaha, I bet. Cotton isn't getting off the boat until the band stops playing.

 

[blackangst1]

Trump's campaign staff met with various Russian government officials, hoping to get information that would hurt Clinton and help Trump.

Agree.

Trump personally asked "Russia" to find Clinton emails, and stated that they would be "rewarded mightily". On video.

I believe your sarcasm meter is broken. Also, see my reply above.

But, like, there's no evidence at all that Strongman Trump worked with Russia to get elected President, because, Strongman Trump was just acting childish. Or something.

Correct.

I mean, look, if you're an apologist, you're an apologist. But don't pretend there isn't direct and indirect evidence that Strongman Trump's campaign wasn't actively working to get information from Russia to help Strongman Trump get elected.

Ignoring that Strongman Trump, said on television, that he wanted Russia's help...well, wow.

Keep on keepin' on I guess.

I wasnt talking about his campaign. Apperently you have a short attention span, because I clearly said:

Did Trumps closest people on his team, *assist* with meddling? I dont know...we'll have to see how the indictments shake out.

You see, in my mind, he and his staff are not one in the same. In the meantime, we know theres somethjing shady about his staff, as indictments were served. Ive never said "fake news" to that. Ever. However, until such time as something comes out directly about Trump himself, I do the same as I do anyone: give him the benefit of the doubt.

Please let it be known, this opinion is of THIS particular topic ONLY.

 

[nickqt]

You see, in my mind, he and his staff are not one in the same.

The RICO Act doesn't care what is in your mind.

 

[blackangst1]

The RICO Act doesn't care what is in your mind.

You are correct!

BTW...wheres the RICO charges?

 

[nickqt]

You are correct!

BTW...wheres the RICO charges?

So you aren't waiting for the indictments to come down, but are asking me what charges there are and aren't? Turning yourself into a pretzel to defend Strongman Trump sure is fun to watch.

Keep on keepin' on.

 

[Jhhnn]

You see, in my mind, he and his staff are not one in the same.

Yeh, the poor man has been exploited by all kinds of bad people, including his children. And the buck stops somewhere else, of course.

 

[glenn1]

Wow what a shocker what we’ve been doing to other nations and their elections for decades has been done to us. Never could have seen that one coming.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Wow what a shocker what we’ve been doing to other nations and their elections for decades has been done to us. Never could have seen that one coming.

I’ll say it once again.
I do the fucking, I don’t get fucked.
Enjoy your pillow biting.

 

[blackangst1]

So you aren't waiting for the indictments to come down, but are asking me what charges there are and aren't? Turning yourself into a pretzel to defend Strongman Trump sure is fun to watch.

Keep on keepin' on.

Are you waiting? Not me, as I have a life to live. If they do, so be it. I believe for an indictment again Trump himself were to happen, there would have to be verifiable evidence, not what happens on this board, speculation. Again, as I said before,

he and his staff are not one in the same. In the meantime, we know theres somethjing shady about his staff, as indictments were served. Ive never said "fake news" to that. Ever. However, until such time as something comes out directly about Trump himself, I do the same as I do anyone: give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Jhhnn]

Wow what a shocker what we’ve been doing to other nations and their elections for decades has been done to us. Never could have seen that one coming.

Yeh, it's a shocker that the Russians would amplify the same divisive message the GOP has been using for decades.

For the MAGA, right?

 

[blackangst1]

Yeh, the poor man has been exploited by all kinds of bad people, including his children. And the buck stops somewhere else, of course.

Using your (flawed) logic, when a cop has charges filed against him/her so should everyone in the chain of command up to and including the commissioner...

 

[HomerJS]

Wow what a shocker what we’ve been doing to other nations and their elections for decades has been done to us. Never could have seen that one coming.

and when said countries are aided and abetted by a citizen that's called treason

Nice to see you are willing to excuse perps of their crimes.

 

[Sunburn74]

Using your (flawed) logic, when a cop has charges filed against him/her so should everyone in the chain of command up to and including the commissioner...

Actually, I would agree with this. In many industries including my own, multiple heads roll for the errors made by subordinates. In addition, if one person is sued, pretty much everyone gets sued by association.

This forces people to choose only excellent subordinates, have high standards of training and frequent recertification, and have many company positions and policies that cannot be violated by anyone without immediate termination (as a means to avoid unnecessary legal and financial exposure to the company). These are not really things one would associate with modern policing.

I mean just think about what happened recently with Larry Nassar and how many people lost their jobs as a consequence of the now 500 million dollar legal exposure from one bad doctor? This is normal in many many industries.

 

[Indus]

Can we strip the entire house of their citizenship and deport them to Russia?

 

[HomerJS]

Nunes and the House committee are so full of shit

 

[kage69]

Yeah.... Anyone who refutes this conclusion has no credibility. Now... The extent to which Trump and/or members of his campaign were knowledge and complicit is an unanswered question as yet.

The republicans destroyed their own credibility by conducting a sham of an investigation, but I'd say yes in general Dump and his supporters suffer from a severe lack of credibility.

 

[Jhhnn]

Using your (flawed) logic, when a cop has charges filed against him/her so should everyone in the chain of command up to and including the commissioner...

Cops are pretty far removed from their commissioner down the chain of command. That's not true of the sleazy menagerie riding Trump's wake. At very best, it shows he's a lousy judge of character.

 

[blackangst1]

Cops are pretty far removed from their commissioner down the chain of command. That's not true of the sleazy menagerie riding Trump's wake. At very best, it shows he's a lousy judge of character.

OK, boss. And yes. He's a terrible judge of character.

 

[MrSquished]

Wow what a shocker what we’ve been doing to other nations and their elections for decades has been done to us. Never could have seen that one coming.

Very true. It's blowback of a very ironic proportion

 

[pcgeek11]

I agree with this in the report:



Did Trumps closest people on his team, *assist* with meddling? I dont know...we'll have to see how the indictments shake out. But at this point I dont think Trump himself was involved.

I agree with you.

 

[trenchfoot]

She meddled in the election as well, stealing three million more votes than Trump got.

Gott'a tip my hat in your general direction there IronWing, you got one hell of a gift there. :thumbsup: