Senate Committee agreed there was Russian meddling

[fskimospy]

Are you waiting? Not me, as I have a life to live. If they do, so be it. I believe for an indictment again Trump himself were to happen, there would have to be verifiable evidence, not what happens on this board, speculation. Again, as I said before,

The odds that Trump’s son, Trump’s son in law, and Trump’s campaign manager were meeting with Russian agents in Trump Tower with Trump a few floors away and Trump didn’t know about it are vanishingly small.

We are not in a court of law here, we are in a court of common sense. To say he wasn’t in on it defies common sense.

 

[hal2kilo]

Hey look, more damning stuff for Nunes to ignore.

One more thing the public can refer to in November before voting.

You think maybe they closed the investigation a little prematurely?

 

[hal2kilo]

The odds that Trump’s son, Trump’s son in law, and Trump’s campaign manager were meeting with Russian agents in Trump Tower with Trump a few floors away and Trump didn’t know about it are vanishingly small.

We are not in a court of law here, we are in a court of common sense. To say he wasn’t in on it defies common sense.

House wouldn't subpoena for the blocked phone number of a call made by Jr. right after the meeting, but Mueller has surely subpoenaed that phone record. I wonder who that call went to?

 

[fskimospy]

House wouldn't subpoena for the blocked phone number of a call made by Jr. right after the meeting, but Mueller has surely subpoenaed that phone record. I wonder who that call went to?

I mean why would the House need to know who Don Jr. was calling? They already know there was no collusion, after all.

 

[zinfamous]

So in your opinion, this quote was him colluding with Russia on a plan to actually do it?

/shakes head

OK. Some people believe the earth is flat too. Believe what you want I guess. As Ive stated, what I believe is

The problem with your understanding of Trump's public comments is that to craft your interpretation, you have to ignore the documented timeline of the event, wherein the meeting between Jr, Kushner, and the Russians--where offers were known to be made regarding the hacked DNC emails--occurred about 2 days before that appearance by Trump. You know, that same meeting where JR wasn't there, oh but then he was, and also Kushner wasn't there...oh but then he was.

You see, it is documented fact that Trump (OK, two of the closest people in his circle so, yeah: you have to be a moron to pretend that Trump didn't know) knew about the emails when he made that public remark.

But you just be you and pretend that it's just him being silly and playful.

 

[fskimospy]

House wouldn't subpoena for the blocked phone number of a call made by Jr. right after the meeting, but Mueller has surely subpoenaed that phone record. I wonder who that call went to?

It's interesting that Trump Jr. can apparently remember virtually nothing about his interactions with the Russians other than that he never told Trump Sr. about them. How the fuck can you know you didn't tell someone about things you can't even remember?

Don Jr. is like Fredo.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's interesting that Trump Jr. can apparently remember virtually nothing about his interactions with the Russians other than that he never told Trump Sr. about them. How the fuck can you know you didn't tell someone about things you can't even remember?

Don Jr. is like Fredo.

Wonder if Trump will become the new Abraham.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The problem with your understanding of Trump's public comments is that to craft your interpretation, you have to ignore the documented timeline of the event, wherein the meeting between Jr, Kushner, and the Russians--where offers were known to be made regarding the hacked DNC emails--occurred about 2 days before that appearance by Trump. You know, that same meeting where JR wasn't there, oh but then he was, and also Kushner wasn't there...oh but then he was.

You see, it is documented fact that Trump (OK, two of the closest people in his circle so, yeah: you have to be a moron to pretend that Trump didn't know) knew about the emails when he made that public remark.

But you just be you and pretend that it's just him being silly and playful.

Want to guess what level of shit fit these guys would be having if Hillary used the exact same words at the exact same podium with the only change being Trump & the RNC.
Can you imagine the shit fit they’d be throwing today with a President Clinton who wanted to
Reduce Russian sanctions
Stall enforcing current sanctions
Not do anything at all or even acknowledge there was Russian meddling

 

[HomerJS]

I mean why would the House need to know who Don Jr. was calling? They already know there was no collusion, after all.

Don Jr. was asked did your father have a blocked number. His answer "I can't recall"

 

[zinfamous]

Want to guess what level of shit fit these guys would be having if Hillary used the exact same words at the exact same podium with the only change being Trump & the RNC.
Can you imagine the shit fit they’d be throwing today with a President Clinton who wanted to
Reduce Russian sanctions
Stall enforcing current sanctions
Not do anything at all or even acknowledge there was Russian meddling

the GOP echosphere would be littered with somethingburgers in that reality.

 

[hal2kilo]

Don Jr. was asked did your father have a blocked number. His answer "I can't recall"

He's way to young to be having such memory problems. Maybe he smokes a lot of dope.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This finding of Senate investigators seems likely more trouble for Trump beyond the report. It indicates that there are Republicans that aren't having any of it, and as a 2/3's majority if required in the Senate for removal there just might be enough Republican support if it comes to it.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Valid conclusion. There is no doubt that Russia interfered.

Only remaining questions are obstruction or collusion. Obstruction is most likely.

For the liberals on the board, after the impeachment of Trump, what should our response be to Russia? This was clearly an attack on our sovereignty. War? Sanctions? Involve the UN?

I think Russia should be treated for what they really are, an enemy adversary that is actively trying to stir division in our country and corrupt our democracy. We should cease all trade with them and actively undermine them in every corner of the globe until their activities stop. They are a giant barely governable nation with an economy smaller than NY state last I checked. It would not be difficult to bring that paper tiger to it's knees.

 

[hal2kilo]

Seems Trump's going from "NO COLLUSION" to so what if we did.

Rudy’s desperate new defense for Trump: Conspiring with the Russians wasn’t illegal!

https://www.salon.com/2018/05/18/ru...p-conspiring-with-the-russians-wasnt-illegal/

 

[blackangst1]

Seems Trump's going from "NO COLLUSION" to so what if we did.



https://www.salon.com/2018/05/18/ru...p-conspiring-with-the-russians-wasnt-illegal/

Giuliani is an idiot. With that said, as we all know indictments and/or impeachment doesnt happen with appearances only, If and when facts come in proving Trump's collusion, let er rip. In the meantime, I prefer not to foam at the mouth with what might have happened.

 

[Jhhnn]

Giuliani is an idiot. With that said, as we all know indictments and/or impeachment doesnt happen with appearances only, If and when facts come in proving Trump's collusion, let er rip. In the meantime, I prefer not to foam at the mouth with what might have happened.

Rudy is just trying to redefine collusion as something the Trump campaign didn't do. It's post-truth alternative facts, like the bigly-est inauguration crowd ever.

It was perfectly OK to accept Russian help because everybody tries to get dirt on the opposition. And if it wasn't, they had no idea it might have been. Not a clue. Completely innocent.

 

[PlanetJosh]

Well all the back and forth as we see it in the news is enough to git on ur nerves.

 

[cytg111]

Not really. He's got a hard on for Hillary so it doesnt surprise me he would say something like this.

But Trump is saying so much bullshit all of the time, does that equal that over time he gains immunity from crap leaving his mouth?

 

[Thebobo]

And now this

Reuters: Source says Giuliani 'made up' end date for Mueller probe
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...s-giuliani-made-up-end-date-for-mueller-probe

 

[Jhhnn]

And now this

Reuters: Source says Giuliani 'made up' end date for Mueller probe
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...s-giuliani-made-up-end-date-for-mueller-probe

I don't need a source to understand that Giuliani pulled the date right out of his ass.

 

[ivwshane]

And now this

Reuters: Source says Giuliani 'made up' end date for Mueller probe
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...s-giuliani-made-up-end-date-for-mueller-probe

That's some ace reporting right there! /eye roll

 

[Thebobo]

That's some ace reporting right there! /eye roll

?

 

[zerocool84]

?

Because it's fake news.

It didn't come from Trump, Sanders, Hannity, or Infowars, so it has to be the librul media lying.

 

[ivwshane]

Because it's fake news.

It didn't come from Trump, Sanders, Hannity, or Infowars, so it has to be the librul media lying.

Lol, no. It didn't take any reporting to figure out Rudy was lying.

 

[blackangst1]

But Trump is saying so much bullshit all of the time, does that equal that over time he gains immunity from crap leaving his mouth?

I dont think you comprehended my post. I wasnt excusing Trump for his comments, I was saying they werent surprising.considering the hard on he has for Hillary.