Do you have compelling evidence? Or is this merely unsubstantiated speculation on your part?
I don't think Putin will be losing any elections anytime soon...there's no denying that he's a ruthless despot.Sounds legit.
Is there anyone who thinks Putin run elections are not padded or rigged. Does anyone believe Putin could lose an election?
Putin hates Clinton (this is a fact)...especially for her comments after Putin was elected in 2011.
Why Putin hates Hillary
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153
This is interesting. Here we see Doc both say that he will only accept Mueller's findings, while also labeling them in a derogatory fashion. Perhaps he's laying the groundwork to dismiss it all as fiction after here stating he will accept it as the final word on the matter.I hold Trump accountable for being a complete buffoon. But, so far, I see no compelling evidence of Russian collusion. That said, I will defer to Mueller's report as the final authority on this matter (which has all the markings of an insane conspiracy theory imo).
Thank you for a thoughtful response. It is easy to Monday morning quarterback, and I am not sure what Obama could have done differently. I think the assumed inevitability of Clinton’s victory played into it his decision, but ironically, there would have always been a question of legitimacy and tipping the scales of justice given that she was literally under FBI investigation during an election year.Of course the wise readers would put themselves in those shoes, at that time point during the election, and mull their heads over the decisions and what is proper. Presidents have a tough job and no decision is clear or easy. It's why, proven again and again and again and again, Trump is wholly incapable of doing this job.
As was Trump's campaign, the only difference was we only knew of her's. Could you imagine if both candidates would've been known to the public to be under FBI investigation? The Repubs would've more than likely used it as excuse to run someone else.Thank you for a thoughtful response. It is easy to Monday morning quarterback, and I am not sure what Obama could have done differently. I think the assumed inevitability of Clinton’s victory played into it his decision, but ironically, there would have always been a question of legitimacy and tipping the scales of justice given that she was literally under FBI investigation during an election year.
As was Trump's campaign, the only difference was we only knew of her's. Could you imagine if both candidates would've been known to the public to be under FBI investigation? The Repubs would've more than likely used it as excuse to run someone else.
Although Obama's reaction to Crimea wasn't exactly strong, Trump has been trying to undo all of it, including crying at the G7 conference about the lack of Russia. Trump also continues to deny that Russia did any with the elections, Obama was too concerned with appearance but Trump is outright lying about it. The two aren't comparable at all.Trump agreed to the sanctions. What is your true beef here...that he didn't do it fast enough for you?
BTW, where were the Democrats when Russia was taking over Crimea and Ukraine? Or, when the Obama administration first realized Russia was attempting to influence our election?
Thank you Russia for your 12 people who posted on social media from FL! Mueller is really dotting those i's and crossing those t's, amirite guys? lol
12 people running a fly-by-night social media operation out of FL were indicted. Are you sure you're not drinking the Kool Aid that MSM is pushing onto you?Uh...are you severely downplaying how much Russia toyed with our elections?
12 people running a fly-by-night social media operation out of FL were indicted. Are you sure you're not drinking the Kool Aid that MSM is pushing onto you?
The GOP had no mechanism to overturn the will of their crazed primary voting base. They thought they could always control the insanity they induced with decades of corrosive right wing agitprop. Crazy doesn't work that way forever.
Although Obama's reaction to Crimea wasn't exactly strong, Trump has been trying to undo all of it, including crying at the G7 conference about the lack of Russia. Trump also continues to deny that Russia did any with the elections, Obama was too concerned with appearance but Trump is outright lying about it. The two aren't comparable at all.
Thank you Russia for your 12 people who posted on social media from FL! Mueller is really dotting those i's and crossing those t's, amirite guys? lol[/
They did actually and were openly considering it. There were lots of reports about them looking at how they'd just plain not put Turmp as their nomination. They of course knew that would splinter the votes as the Turmp fans would vote for him (and turn against the GOP, which, they already had in actuality; and the GOP has the gall to act surprised after all the shenanigans they've pulled...), and whomever they put forth had already shown to be less popular than him so they had zero chance of winning the Presidency by not backing Turmp, and I think they also feared it might cost them in Congress as well.
I don't think knowing he was being investigated would've changed anything about how the GOP acted, as I'm 100% certain they already knew he was. Obama had discussions with high ranking GOP reps (Mitch being one) specifically about the fact that the intelligence agencies were saying that Russia was meddling and that it definitely involved Turmp. Obama didn't want to come out with that without support from Republicans because he knew they'd just spin it as him having orchestrated it all (and it would've driven the frothing conspiracy nuts into overdrive).
Now maybe Romney and some of the ones that have at least some dignity would have seized on that to say no Turmp, but considering how quickly he dolled up to go out to dinner with Turmp, I don't think it would've changed anything as far as that goes.
I do think knowing Turmp was also under FBI investigation would've been enough to change the election itself though (I don't think it would've drastically changed the numbers, but I do think it would've been enough to push how the swing states went).
Sorry, I have to disagree with your first assertion, I'd say it was plenty strong. In fact, it was strong enough that it was likely what triggered Putin pulling out all the stops (short of assassination of American politicians) to get Turmp in, in order to try and ease the sanctions.
Oh hai, did we say Russia meddled in 21 states' election systems all this time?? We meant to say 50. Let's quietly correct the record before the Mueller report is released...
https://arstechnica.com/information...n-systems-in-50-states-were-targeted-in-2016/
Yep, there's all kinds of stuff still going on. Did they release this report at 1am on Sunday or something. First I,ve even seen this. Oh yea, they are not in session basically. How convenient for Trump.Senate Intel report confirms Russia aimed to help Trump in 2016
The report represents a confidence-booster to the country’s intelligence community.www.politico.com
The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
Tuesday's bipartisan report, from a panel chaired by North Carolina Republican Richard Burr, undercuts Trump's years of efforts to portray allegations of Kremlin assistance to his campaign as a "hoax," driven by Democrats and a “deep state” embedded within the government bureaucracy.
and it won't change a goddamned thing
Putin told everyone this at the Helsinki presser he did it. People forget that as wellSenate Intel report confirms Russia aimed to help Trump in 2016
The report represents a confidence-booster to the country’s intelligence community.www.politico.com
The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
Tuesday's bipartisan report, from a panel chaired by North Carolina Republican Richard Burr, undercuts Trump's years of efforts to portray allegations of Kremlin assistance to his campaign as a "hoax," driven by Democrats and a “deep state” embedded within the government bureaucracy.
and it won't change a damned thing
We now know the answer to this question.Why? Why did they want Trump to win?
They never stopped.Shumer straight up said yesterday that Russian efforts is ongoing right now, reason why you dont hear about it is because Trump has had success subverting the IC.