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dank69

Lifer
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You mean what has she gotten for her donations? How about the Vice-Presidency? Senator?
No jackass, what have her donors received? You know, since you claim she has donors the way Sinema does. Sinema's donors are paying her in exchange for blocking a bill that would make it somewhat harder for them to rape you. What are these Kamala donors you claim exist paying for?
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Hold the line buddy, hold the line….


Billionaire TRUMP donor… for fucks sake.
Trumpism is our generational evil. There has been other iterations of evil over the times, some with more success, some with less, but Trumpism is this generations blight on the planet thats for sure.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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Hold the line buddy, hold the line….


Billionaire TRUMP donor… for fucks sake.
Trumpism is our generational evil. There has been other iterations of evil over the times, some with more success, some with less, but Trumpism is this generations blight on the planet thats for sure.
It’s amazing how it spread quickly to other countries.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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It’s amazing how it spread quickly to other countries.
Maybe its been latent for a long time? Or just primed (foreign psyops campaigning) synchronized with the US. Its my understanding that the playbook the Kremlin threw at you was beta tested on Poland first with great success.
I dont know but, I do know it’s unprecedented to have my fellow countrymen here in scandy proclaim themselves as Trump supporters.. people who never really had of an opinion on domestic politics much less foreign, all of a sudden. SOMETHING is whispering in their ears… Rise of nationalism as well, things i’ve heard in the national guard in passing… Jfc.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
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It’s amazing how it spread quickly to other countries.

Here it is.
Actually a good reminder, I need to get that book.


So question is how much of Polish government is still under Russian kompromat influence.
God knows they're reaking havoc on the EU every chance they get.
 
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DaaQ

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Maybe its been latent for a long time? Or just primed (foreign psyops campaigning) synchronized with the US. Its my understanding that the playbook the Kremlin threw at you was beta tested on Poland first with great success.
I dont know but, I do know it’s unprecedented to have my fellow countrymen here in scandy proclaim themselves as Trump supporters.. people who never really had of an opinion on domestic politics much less foreign, all of a sudden. SOMETHING is whispering in their ears… Rise of nationalism as well, things i’ve heard in the national guard in passing… Jfc.
Not excluding Russian Ops.
But I tend to believe it's the WWE effect, the male soap opera that is professional wrestling. Trump appeared on their for a time back when he wasn't decrepitly old.

What I mean is it is a complex thing.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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Not excluding Russian Ops.
But I tend to believe it's the WWE effect, the male soap opera that is professional wrestling. Trump appeared on their for a time back when he wasn't decrepitly old.

What I mean is it is a complex thing.
Agree, that was about the time when shit started turning stupid.
TV shows in general, some of the shit they produce now is catering to the outright "never attended school in ANY capacity crowd.", its really really dumbed tf down.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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Agree, that was about the time when shit started turning stupid.
TV shows in general, some of the shit they produce now is catering to the outright "never attended school in ANY capacity crowd.", its really really dumbed tf down.

Wouldn't it be interesting to have a national poll run by a reputable polling firm determining how many fans of those professional wrestling shows are diehard Trump supporters.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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Wouldn't it be interesting to have a national poll run by a reputable polling firm determining how many fans of those professional wrestling shows are diehard Trump supporters.
It would indeed. But we sort of know already right? All of them? Most of them? Clear majority? Take the UFC - and thats only the violence part… add the stupid part of wrestling and you gotta have critical mass twice over.
 
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Not excluding Russian Ops.
But I tend to believe it's the WWE effect, the male soap opera that is professional wrestling. Trump appeared on their for a time back when he wasn't decrepitly old.

What I mean is it is a complex thing.
Agree, that was about the time when shit started turning stupid.
TV shows in general, some of the shit they produce now is catering to the outright "never attended school in ANY capacity crowd.", its really really dumbed tf down.

So, you two are genuinely trying to argue that fake sport is more to blame than the Russians or apparently even Republicans (who are after all just chasing the wrestling fan crowd, apparently...)?

Wrestling has a pretty diverse crowd, especially these days. And wrestling follows culture far more than it sets it. Unless you two are also genuinely suggesting that wrestling is such a cornerstone of culture that its been dictating government. In which case, you two might wanna look in the mirror if you're looking for someone stupid to project your idiotic beliefs onto.

Something else to keep in mind: Abraham Lincoln was a wrestler/fighter.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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So, you two are genuinely trying to argue that fake sport is more to blame than the Russians or apparently....

Nope? How the hell.... Anyway, the only plausible argument in that direction would have been "... never attended school in ANY capacity crowd..."
 

DaaQ

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So, you two are genuinely trying to argue that fake sport is more to blame than the Russians or apparently even Republicans (who are after all just chasing the wrestling fan crowd, apparently...)?

Wrestling has a pretty diverse crowd, especially these days. And wrestling follows culture far more than it sets it. Unless you two are also genuinely suggesting that wrestling is such a cornerstone of culture that its been dictating government. In which case, you two might wanna look in the mirror if you're looking for someone stupid to project your idiotic beliefs onto.

Something else to keep in mind: Abraham Lincoln was a wrestler/fighter.
Think you need to re read that, especially my fist sentence.
I am not talking about the Iron Shiek or Paul Orton days, I'm talking about the Male soap opera days, used to sell PPV.
The only dictating of Government they do is by voting against their own interests.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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So, you two are genuinely trying to argue that fake sport is more to blame than the Russians or apparently even Republicans (who are after all just chasing the wrestling fan crowd, apparently...)?

Wrestling has a pretty diverse crowd, especially these days. And wrestling follows culture far more than it sets it. Unless you two are also genuinely suggesting that wrestling is such a cornerstone of culture that its been dictating government. In which case, you two might wanna look in the mirror if you're looking for someone stupid to project your idiotic beliefs onto.

Something else to keep in mind: Abraham Lincoln was a wrestler/fighter.
You do know there's a difference between wrestling (fighting style) and 'wrestling' (wwf, soap opera) yeah? You know which one Lincoln did, yes?
 
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cytg111

Lifer
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You do know there's a difference between wrestling (fighting style) and 'wrestling' (wwf, soap opera) yeah? You know which one Lincoln did, yes?
I remember years ago having this convo with someone at a party, and I go, you know its all fake right?, and he was just flat out in denial. I dont know, I hope there has done phds on this phenomenon, its surely something we need to understand.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
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I remember years ago having this convo with someone at a party, and I go, you know its all fake right?, and he was just flat out in denial. I dont know, I hope there has done phds on this phenomenon, its surely something we need to understand.
Oh yea. Arguments with grown adults about whether "professional wrestling" is real, are not new. It started evolving into, but they are still great athletes.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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Oh yea. Arguments with grown adults about whether "professional wrestling" is real, are not new. It started evolving into, but they are still great athletes.

Sure, "Pair Bodybuilding Gymnastics & Theatre".

I mean what kind of bubble do you live in to watch something like that and go "yea, that checks out" ?? I think society at large should have grinded to a halt right there until that specific conundrum had been resolved. Obviously some tv-brainwashing is going on.
 
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DaaQ

Golden Member
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So, you two are genuinely trying to argue that fake sport is more to blame than the Russians or apparently even Republicans (who are after all just chasing the wrestling fan crowd, apparently...)?

Wrestling has a pretty diverse crowd, especially these days. And wrestling follows culture far more than it sets it. Unless you two are also genuinely suggesting that wrestling is such a cornerstone of culture that its been dictating government. In which case, you two might wanna look in the mirror if you're looking for someone stupid to project your idiotic beliefs onto.

Something else to keep in mind: Abraham Lincoln was a wrestler/fighter.
Here you are trying to build a strawman, then proceed into correlation/causation fallacy.

Unless you are defending WWE as being something other than what it is, a male soap opera.
 

Zorba

Lifer
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Oh yea. Arguments with grown adults about whether "professional wrestling" is real, are not new. It started evolving into, but they are still great athletes.
The outcomes are fake and most of the hits are fake. But since if there stuff they do would knock the wind out of most people, like when they land flat on their backs on the mat.

I never liked it, always thought it looked beyond fake as a kid. I ended up watching like 5 minutes of it a few weeks ago and it was so unbelievably fake and dumb, I can't believe anyone enjoys it.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Sure, "Pair Bodybuilding Gymnastics & Theatre".

I mean what kind of bubble do you live in to watch something like that and go "yea, that checks out" ?? I think society at large should have grinded to a halt right there until that specific conundrum had been resolved. Obviously some tv-brainwashing is going on.

You left out the homoerotic angle in play.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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The outcomes are fake and most of the hits are fake. But since if there stuff they do would knock the wind out of most people, like when they land flat on their backs on the mat.

I never liked it, always thought it looked beyond fake as a kid. I ended up watching like 5 minutes of it a few weeks ago and it was so unbelievably fake and dumb, I can't believe anyone enjoys it.
Went to a professional wrestling match way back in the late 70's when I was living in Chicago. Me, and a couple other guys at work use to follow the mid west wrestling circuit (purely for the spoof of it). Characters like Dick The Bruiser, Sargent Slaughter, ect. I swear they open up the mental institutions for how people were acting like the shit was real. People were spitting on their perceived enemy wrestlers as they made their way through the crowds to the ring. They turn the mics way up under the trampoline mats they use and it's gets crazy. The audience was half the entertainment.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Anyway...back to the OP.

Joe Manchin's former aides lobby Congress for oil, gas, pharma giants (cnbc.com)

  • Sen. Joe Manchin has been working to shrink or eliminate key elements of President Joe Biden’s social spending and climate proposal as several of his former advisors lobby Congress.
  • Manchin has at least six former aides and advisors lobbying members of Congress for power players in industries such as coal, pharmaceuticals, oil and gas, tobacco, and finance, according to more than two dozen filings to Congress.
 
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