Work on your reading comprehension. I didn't suggest he should get a pass on it. I was simply curious whether Waggy's 40 year memory crossed partisan boundaries. You can ask yourself the same question.
Work on your reading comprehension. I didn't suggest he should get a pass on it. I was simply curious whether Waggy's 40 year memory crossed partisan boundaries. You can ask yourself the same question.Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yep, all Senators should be given a pass for one dead secretary, now two or more should not be tolerated...Originally posted by: Bowfinger
This is off topic, but that happened 40 years ago. Did you show similar contempt for GWB for his "youthful indiscretions," or is your forgiveness swayed by partisanship? I agree Chappaquiddick was shameful behavior. I also recognize it was a singular incident, and he paid a very real price for it.
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Because it says so much about your character ... or lack thereof.Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
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I have no respect for the man and I truly think this "respect for the dead" idea on this forum is pathetic. If the man did not deserve my respect in life why the hell would I respect him in death?
Nobody cares whether you "respect" Kennedy or not. That's not what it's about. It's about being respectful to a fellow human being, and especially to those who love him when they are in pain. It is a measure of your civility and humanity.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Harvey
For the good you did to help so many. :wine:
You mean holding people back from having to help themselves?
You mean keeping people from knowing what its like to have a better life than your parents, yet still hoping your childrens lives are better still?
You mean keeping people from knowing the rewards of blood, sweat, tears and hard work?
You mean keeping people from knowing that equality isn't bringing someone else down to your level, but pulling yourself up to someone elses?
Great Job Ted!!! :roll: :disgust:
Yes, Ted Kennedy worked tirelessly to prevent you from having a better life than your parents.
That's not at all a stupid thing to say.
Bull. There's a very real difference between "some satisfaction" and "delighted".Originally posted by: jbourne77
You're parsing words when differentiating between "satisfaction" and "delight." Come on. In fact, there really isn't even room to parse:Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I think it's fine to fell ambivalent about someone's death, or perhaps even some satisfaction. While I would not be "delighted" to learn OBL was dead, I would find it satisfying to know his days were done. There is a difference, however, between how one feels and how one acts. That is where character comes into play in my book. If you are happy somebody just died that's your business ... just keep it your business. Cheering about it in a thread where others are paying their respects shows a distinct lack of character.
to give great pleasure, satisfaction, or enjoyment to; please highly: The show delighted everyone.
Yes dear. That would be the "in my book." I think it's a book most civil adults share, but you're certainly welcome to live down to your own standards.If OBL died today, people would be talking about it tomorrow... and not in mournful terms. And God help the idiot who rushed to call into question the character of the masses who rejoiced in his demise. Who says people have to keep their business their business when they're indifferent or even satisfied/delighted by someone's passing? Any character distinctions you make from such expression is, again, arbitrary, and based only on your own emotions and rationale... not some universally accepted standard that others here have failed to meet.
No doubt. I certainly believe the world will be a better place without him. Nonetheless, I hope I show the character to bite my tongue when the time comes. As with Kennedy, no matter how one feels about the man personally, there will be family and friends who truly loved him and are feeling real pain due to losing him.Originally posted by: FerrelGeek
Well, we'll see how this 'respect for the dead' thing holds up when Cheney dies. That's when you'll see real hatred posted here.Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Because it says so much about your character ... or lack thereof.Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
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I have no respect for the man and I truly think this "respect for the dead" idea on this forum is pathetic. If the man did not deserve my respect in life why the hell would I respect him in death?
Nobody cares whether you "respect" Kennedy or not. That's not what it's about. It's about being respectful to a fellow human being, and especially to those who love him when they are in pain. It is a measure of your civility and humanity.
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yes, Ted Kennedy worked tirelessly to prevent you from having a better life than your parents.
That's not at all a stupid thing to say.
Ted Kennedy, the defacto leader of the liberals and the liberal mindset is not to "help" people but to make them dependent on the government through handouts and entitlements.
They need to keep people addicted to these handouts so that they will continue to vote for the liberals and therefore keep them in power.
If you are addicted to government handouts what incentive do you have to improve your life?
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
This is off topic, but that happened 40 years ago. Did you show similar contempt for GWB for his "youthful indiscretions," or is your forgiveness swayed by partisanship? I agree Chappaquiddick was shameful behavior. I also recognize it was a singular incident, and he paid a very real price for it.Originally posted by: waggy
I don't give a flying fuck if he was a R or D. that really don't matter. both are filled with currupt lieing cheating assholes.
What i find disgusting about Tedy is he murdered that poor girl and used his political and family connections to get away with it. has he done good (and bad) for the US? sure. i do respect that the guy dovoted his life to what he thought was doing good for the U.S.
but does that make up for the murder of a young lady? not to me.
i respect the office he held but i have no respect for the man
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Harvey
For the good you did to help so many. :wine:
You mean holding people back from having to help themselves?
You mean keeping people from knowing what its like to have a better life than your parents, yet still hoping your childrens lives are better still?
You mean keeping people from knowing the rewards of blood, sweat, tears and hard work?
You mean keeping people from knowing that equality isn't bringing someone else down to your level, but pulling yourself up to someone elses?
Great Job Ted!!! :roll: :disgust:
He apparently prevented you from learning critical thinking.
Ted was a better man then any Republican in the last 100 years. Maybe this would be a good time to tear down all the Reagen shit that was put up when that worthless POS died and replace with Kennedy stuff.
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
The Dems have all the power in Mass.
They wanted the rules changed to help them in 2004, and they changed them.
I expect the same thing this time. Little point in arguing about it, really.
They want a Dem appointed, and that's what they will get.
I will be shocked if they follow their own rules and have an election, but you never know.
Rules have always been for the little people.
I don't understand it, really. Do they actually have much to worry about over an election in Mass.?
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
The Dems have all the power in Mass.
They wanted the rules changed to help them in 2004, and they changed them.
I expect the same thing this time. Little point in arguing about it, really.
They want a Dem appointed, and that's what they will get.
I will be shocked if they follow their own rules and have an election, but you never know.
Rules have always been for the little people.
I don't understand it, really. Do they actually have much to worry about over an election in Mass.?
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Harvey
For the good you did to help so many. :wine:
You mean holding people back from having to help themselves?
You mean keeping people from knowing what its like to have a better life than your parents, yet still hoping your childrens lives are better still?
You mean keeping people from knowing the rewards of blood, sweat, tears and hard work?
You mean keeping people from knowing that equality isn't bringing someone else down to your level, but pulling yourself up to someone elses?
Great Job Ted!!! :roll: :disgust:
He apparently prevented you from learning critical thinking.
Ted was a better man then any Republican in the last 100 years. Maybe this would be a good time to tear down all the Reagen shit that was put up when that worthless POS died and replace with Kennedy stuff.
Really? He's a better man, by driving a car with his aide in it off a bridge, and then leaving her to die? We apparently have very different definitions of what makes a better man.
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Harvey
For the good you did to help so many. :wine:
You mean holding people back from having to help themselves?
You mean keeping people from knowing what its like to have a better life than your parents, yet still hoping your childrens lives are better still?
You mean keeping people from knowing the rewards of blood, sweat, tears and hard work?
You mean keeping people from knowing that equality isn't bringing someone else down to your level, but pulling yourself up to someone elses?
Great Job Ted!!! :roll: :disgust:
He apparently prevented you from learning critical thinking.
Ted was a better man then any Republican in the last 100 years. Maybe this would be a good time to tear down all the Reagen shit that was put up when that worthless POS died and replace with Kennedy stuff.
Really? He's a better man, by driving a car with his aide in it off a bridge, and then leaving her to die? We apparently have very different definitions of what makes a better man.
Originally posted by: lupi
Just heard the burial will be at arlington, anyone know the details behind that?
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Harvey
For the good you did to help so many. :wine:
You mean holding people back from having to help themselves?
You mean keeping people from knowing what its like to have a better life than your parents, yet still hoping your childrens lives are better still?
You mean keeping people from knowing the rewards of blood, sweat, tears and hard work?
You mean keeping people from knowing that equality isn't bringing someone else down to your level, but pulling yourself up to someone elses?
Great Job Ted!!! :roll: :disgust:
He apparently prevented you from learning critical thinking.
Ted was a better man then any Republican in the last 100 years. Maybe this would be a good time to tear down all the Reagen shit that was put up when that worthless POS died and replace with Kennedy stuff.
Really? He's a better man, by driving a car with his aide in it off a bridge, and then leaving her to die? We apparently have very different definitions of what makes a better man.
Then he spent the rest of the life helping others and creating legislation to help others.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Is anyone else getting PM's from Craig234 asking to leave this thread as a memorial?
I literally told him to fuck off and he keeps sending me pm's :disgust:
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Is anyone else getting PM's from Craig234 asking to leave this thread as a memorial?
I literally told him to fuck off and he keeps sending me pm's :disgust:
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Is anyone else getting PM's from Craig234 asking to leave this thread as a memorial?
I literally told him to fuck off and he keeps sending me pm's :disgust:
Wow, seriously?
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
You may both go Cheney yourselves. Your lack of character and pathetic attempts to shift attention from it is noted and not at all surprising.Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Are you also respectful to murderers, rapists and child molesters because they are "fellow humans"?Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Because it says so much about your character ... or lack thereof.Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
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I have no respect for the man and I truly think this "respect for the dead" idea on this forum is pathetic. If the man did not deserve my respect in life why the hell would I respect him in death?
Nobody cares whether you "respect" Kennedy or not. That's not what it's about. It's about being respectful to a fellow human being, and especially to those who love him when they are in pain. It is a measure of your civility and humanity.
Beat me to it.
Bowfinger's arbitrary application of "respect in death" is, well... arbitrary. As is everyone else's, including mine.