senator ted kennedy dies

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
[ ... ]
I have no respect for the man and I truly think this "respect for the dead" idea on this forum is pathetic. If the man did not deserve my respect in life why the hell would I respect him in death?

Because it says so much about your character ... or lack thereof.


Nobody cares whether you "respect" Kennedy or not. That's not what it's about. It's about being respectful to a fellow human being, and especially to those who love him when they are in pain. It is a measure of your civility and humanity.

Are you also respectful to murderers, rapists and child molesters because they are "fellow humans"?

Beat me to it.

Bowfinger's arbitrary application of "respect in death" is, well... arbitrary. As is everyone else's, including mine.

You may both go Cheney yourselves. Your lack of character and pathetic attempts to shift attention from it is noted and not at all surprising.

Heres another upstanding person you can be respectful too as well. I'm sure you think hes a fine example of a man dont you....

Click

Nothing like raping and slaying people to earn the utmost respect of Bowfinger!

what the hell does this have to do with this thread?

 

[jonks]

So how long before politicos start exploitin....

this post interrupted by the letter jesus christ

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...-passing_n_269581.html

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Harvey
For the good you did to help so many. :wine:

You mean holding people back from having to help themselves?

You mean keeping people from knowing what its like to have a better life than your parents, yet still hoping your childrens lives are better still?

You mean keeping people from knowing the rewards of blood, sweat, tears and hard work?

You mean keeping people from knowing that equality isn't bringing someone else down to your level, but pulling yourself up to someone elses?

Great Job Ted!!! :roll: :disgust:

Please prove any of that.

Prove the good he did to help so many.

Beyond Camelot: His shining moments endure

Bill by bill, provision by provision, he expanded government health support to millions of children and the elderly, helped millions more go to college, opened the immigration doors to millions of new Americans from continents other than Europe, and protected the civil rights bulwark of the ?60s through a long period of conservative domination.

Wiki

Kennedy played a major role in passing many laws that have affected the lives of all Americans, including the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, the National Cancer Act of 1971, the Federal Election Campaign Act Amendments of 1974, the COBRA Act of 1985, the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986, the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, the Ryan White AIDS Care Act in 1990, the Civil Rights Act of 1991, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, the Mental Health Parity Act in 1996 and 2008, the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, the No Child Left Behind Act in 2002, and the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act in 2009. During the 2000s, he was a leader of several unsuccessful efforts at immigration reform. Over decades in office, Kennedy's major legislative goal had been enactment of universal health care, which he continued to work toward during the Obama administration.

It's not their fault. Fox doesn't tell them these things.

 

[LTC8K6]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
The Dems have all the power in Mass.

They wanted the rules changed to help them in 2004, and they changed them.

I expect the same thing this time. Little point in arguing about it, really.

They want a Dem appointed, and that's what they will get.

I will be shocked if they follow their own rules and have an election, but you never know.

Rules have always been for the little people.

I don't understand it, really. Do they actually have much to worry about over an election in Mass.?

How did MA have a Republican Governor then?

Shannon Obrien was a poor choice, that's how.

Same way Obama got to be president.

Besides the Gov doesn't have the power to change those rules. The Dems had all the power in Mass to make those rules at the time, and they still do.

 

[Ramma2]

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: Ramma2

Originally posted by: Jadow

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Love him or hate him, I think you need to respect a man who stands up.
RIP.

no

Who stands up and runs away from a sinking car, am i rite ?

Probably the same type of person who attacks a dead man from behind a computer screen.

Attacking? No. Simply stating fact, an actual event that took place in the past. But I can see how the truth hurts sometimes!

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Outing Valerie Plame destroyed her value to the CIA than as a covert operative.

I am guessing that driving her car to CIA headquarters 5 days a week sorta ruined her value as a covert operative... but what do I know.

 

[ProfJohn]

Two thoughts on Ted.


1. Look up limousine liberal and you will see a pic of Ted.

2. Why did the least deserving of the brothers turn out to be the longest living?


BTW the up coming special election for his seat will be the first Sentate election for this seat without a Kennedy on the ticket since 1952.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Harvey
Outing Valerie Plame destroyed her value to the CIA than as a covert operative.

I am guessing that driving her car to CIA headquarters 5 days a week sorta ruined her value as a covert operative... but what do I know.

Back in your hole ....

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Harvey
Outing Valerie Plame destroyed her value to the CIA than as a covert operative.

I am guessing that driving her car to CIA headquarters 5 days a week sorta ruined her value as a covert operative... but what do I know.

Back in your hole ....

He has been wrong about every major election, primary, and recession since 2006, cut the guy some slack.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Harvey
Outing Valerie Plame destroyed her value to the CIA than as a covert operative.

I am guessing that driving her car to CIA headquarters 5 days a week sorta ruined her value as a covert operative... but what do I know.

Back in your hole ....

What I said was 100% true and your article points that out.

Plame worked as an operations officer in the Directorate of Operations and was assigned to the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) in January 2002 at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: jonks
So how long before politicos start exploitin....

this post interrupted by the letter jesus christ

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...-passing_n_269581.html

You know...one persons death shouldnt be an excuse to pass some POS legislation.

The GOP better not ROLL OVER for THIS reason.

and by the way...what a crock of shit if MA changes the law after changing it in 2004.

Changing the laws at the whims of one man is not democracy.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Harvey
Outing Valerie Plame destroyed her value to the CIA than as a covert operative.

I am guessing that driving her car to CIA headquarters 5 days a week sorta ruined her value as a covert operative... but what do I know.

Back in your hole ....

What I said was 100% true and your article points that out.

Plame worked as an operations officer in the Directorate of Operations and was assigned to the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) in January 2002 at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

And was still covert according to CIA and Fitzgerald. Your trolling is old news. Deflect somewhere else.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: smashp
RIP

The Raw hatred in this thread makes me wonder why i Still visit this place

I hardly ever even come to read, let alone post anymore.

It has deteriorated so much it's become a waste of my time.

Ted Kennedy has done more for this country than those who attack him will ever accomplish in their entire collective lifetimes.

Conservative hatered and stupidity knows no upper, or even lower, boundries.

 

[Druidx]

Got to give him credit, he lead the way on a lot of important legislation. Let's be honest though, if his name wasn't Kennedy, he never would have gotten anywhere after Chappaquiddick.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
It has deteriorated so much it's become a waste of my time.

Ditto, but train wrecks are still fun to watch sometimes. Just need the right perspective.

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Ted Kennedy has done more for this country than those who attack him will ever accomplish in their entire collective lifetimes.

No doubt... good AND bad, eh? FWIW, people aren't really attacking (barring one or two tic comments). Just because you don't like what you're hearing doesn't mean it's an attack. FACT: He left his aide to die after driving her off a bridge. You can't fault people for holding that against him. It's not like he forgot to help his elderly neighbor with her groceries; he fucking killed someone and slept on it for 12 hours so he could posture.

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Conservative hatered and stupidity knows no upper, or even lower, boundries.

True. Though I'm pretty sure that's one of the few qualities they share with their jackass cousins.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: waggy
I don't give a flying fuck if he was a R or D. that really don't matter. both are filled with currupt lieing cheating assholes.

What i find disgusting about Tedy is he murdered that poor girl and used his political and family connections to get away with it. has he done good (and bad) for the US? sure. i do respect that the guy dovoted his life to what he thought was doing good for the U.S.

but does that make up for the murder of a young lady? not to me.

i respect the office he held but i have no respect for the man

This is off topic, but that happened 40 years ago. Did you show similar contempt for GWB for his "youthful indiscretions," or is your forgiveness swayed by partisanship? I agree Chappaquiddick was shameful behavior. I also recognize it was a singular incident, and he paid a very real price for it.

So who exactly died specifically due to Bush's 'youthful indiscretions'?

Nobody died from GWB's youthful indiscretions, although his wife did kill someone
(and was never charged).

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
All of us are flawed in one way or another. Inspite of his flaws he did far more good for this country and its people. As a senator he knew how to reach across and yet keep to his ideals. We lost a good man.


RIP

Criminally negligent homicide is a not a flaw.

I believe Ted Kennedy pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident. Of course, facts have never been important to righties.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Hell, we're giving him a pass for being married when he screwed around with and killed Mary Jo

 

[BrownTown]

Well, out of respect for the dead I can't really post my true fealings here.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: lupi
Just heard the burial will be at arlington, anyone know the details behind that?

What specific details are you looking for? As a senator, I believe it is his right to be burried there.

that; never heard of that being used before. Wonder how many other members of congress have been buried there.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: lupi
Just heard the burial will be at arlington, anyone know the details behind that?

What specific details are you looking for? As a senator, I believe it is his right to be burried there.

that; never heard of that being used before. Wonder how many other members of congress have been buried there.

According to the Arlington spokesfolks Sen Kennedy earned the right via service in the Army and also as a member of Congress. So we could bury him twice.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
All of us are flawed in one way or another. Inspite of his flaws he did far more good for this country and its people. As a senator he knew how to reach across and yet keep to his ideals. We lost a good man.


RIP

Criminally negligent homicide is a not a flaw.

I believe Ted Kennedy pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident. Of course, facts have never been important to righties.

Did you read the wiki article(s)?

Modern forensics would have convicted him of much more.... And he would have lost his senate seat rather quickly.

Rosemary could have done just as good a job in the senate

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
All of us are flawed in one way or another. Inspite of his flaws he did far more good for this country and its people. As a senator he knew how to reach across and yet keep to his ideals. We lost a good man.


RIP

Criminally negligent homicide is a not a flaw.

I believe Ted Kennedy pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident. Of course, facts have never been important to righties.

Did you read the wiki article(s)?

Modern forensics would have convicted him of much more.... And he would have lost his senate seat rather quickly.

Rosemary could have done just as good a job in the senate

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
All of us are flawed in one way or another. Inspite of his flaws he did far more good for this country and its people. As a senator he knew how to reach across and yet keep to his ideals. We lost a good man.


RIP

Criminally negligent homicide is a not a flaw.

I believe Ted Kennedy pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident. Of course, facts have never been important to righties.

ROFL at 1) me being a rightie, and 2) you being such a simpleton that you think it all amounted to nothing more than just him leaving the scene of an accident.

For someone so concerned with the "facts," you sure make a lot of assumptions .

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
All of us are flawed in one way or another. Inspite of his flaws he did far more good for this country and its people. As a senator he knew how to reach across and yet keep to his ideals. We lost a good man.


RIP

Criminally negligent homicide is a not a flaw.

I believe Ted Kennedy pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident. Of course, facts have never been important to righties.

ROFL at 1) me being a rightie, and 2) you being such a simpleton that you think it all amounted to nothing more than just him leaving the scene of an accident.

For someone so concerned with the "facts," you sure make a lot of assumptions .

You're not a lefty and not middle of the road, so....
He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident AFAIK, unless you have other info that he was guilty of criminally negligent homicide, you're lying.