Senior officer of Fallujah Brigade disputes U.S. airstrike target

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AyashiKaibutsu

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hmm on the television news I listened to they said there was 20 minutes of secondary explosions.... that would seem to imply an ammo depot.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Corn
From the looks of this thread, there's gonna be lots of spitting at the troops when they return home.

Question: Lets say Kerry wins the election and we bomb another house full of "women and children"..... any of you morons gonna decree that whomever Commander Joe is at the time who claims otherwise has "zero credibility" and sarcastically reply about the "World's finest at work...."

IMHO Bugs is no worse than the rest of you assholes. Fsck you.

Way to go Corn. You and Bugs are acting like total jackholes. I'll remember that next time either of you spout off about "liberating" the Iraqis or pretend to give one $hit about their welfare. Christ, at least the Israelis possess enough brains to get the right address before they launch a missile strike.
 

Corn

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I don't get what you are trying to say here, are you saying that it doesn't matter if this was a mistake or not or are you saying that either way no one should ever know about it?

I'm saying neither. No suprise that I was misunderstood though......

What I'm saying is that none of the blame America first "but we support the troops" liberals knows jack schitt about anything that went down, but you fine folks [/sarcasm] sure as hell are smitten with the Fallujah Brigade and are confident in its credibility over "the world's finest".

....and yeah Conjur, I may be bitter, but that's because I subject myself to your idiocy on a daily basis. Maybe you should do me a favor and beg the mods to give me a vacation.
 

Corn

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I don't get what you are trying to say here, are you saying that it doesn't matter if this was a mistake or not or are you saying that either way no one should ever know about it?

I'm saying neither. No suprise that I was misunderstood though......

What I'm saying is that none of the blame America first "but we support the troops" liberals knows jack schitt about anything that went down, but you fine folks [/sarcasm] sure as hell are smitten with the Fallujah Brigade and are confident in its credibility over "the world's finest".

....and yeah Conjur, I may be bitter, but that's because I subject myself to your idiocy on a daily basis. Maybe you should do me a favor and beg the mods to give me a vacation.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
hmm on the television news I listened to they said there was 20 minutes of secondary explosions.... that would seem to imply an ammo depot.

What?!? 20 minutes?? No fvcking way. If it was an ammo depot it would have caused some pretty major damage in the area.

Kimmit mentioned some secondary explosions but that's no confirmation there were explosives there.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Corn
I don't get what you are trying to say here, are you saying that it doesn't matter if this was a mistake or not or are you saying that either way no one should ever know about it?

I'm saying neither. No suprise that I was misunderstood though......

What I'm saying is that none of the blame America first "but we support the troops" liberals knows jack schitt about anything that went down, but you fine folks [/sarcasm] sure as hell are smitten with the Fallujah Brigade and are confident in its credibility over "the world's finest".

....and yeah Conjur, I may be bitter, but that's because I subject myself to your idiocy on a daily basis. Maybe you should do me a favor and beg the mods to give me a vacation.

"us" fine folks? As opposed to the lot of you fundie nutjobs? Don't generalize, it won't win any arguments with me.

I fail to see where i pointed out any of the things you claime that "us" fine folks do. I have not claimed to know what went down, but i would like to know, if that is ok with you then i don't see your problem.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: chrisms
World's finest at work

Originally posted by: 11thHour
I think the moral to the story is to never trust our military leaders to account for anything. They are as bad as the bush administration in spreading disinformation and looking the other way when they are wrong.

Let me guess. You both will claim to "support the troops" though :roll:

CkG
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: chrisms
World's finest at work

Originally posted by: 11thHour
I think the moral to the story is to never trust our military leaders to account for anything. They are as bad as the bush administration in spreading disinformation and looking the other way when they are wrong.

Let me guess. You both will claim to "support the troops" though :roll:

CkG

Oh are we judging people now? Oh, oh! Let me try:

Let me guess. You and Korn will claim to be "liberating the Iraqis" though. :roll:
 

BugsBunny1078

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I have to wonder about some of you guys like DealMonkey and Conjur, why you protest so hard about some terrorists who get killed. yet when our troops get killed in ambush attacks you say nothing.
Terrorism is like a cancer in this case we will call it breast cancer. Now if you can cut out the polyp and save the breast then that is ideal. So just kill the terrorist cells and save Iraq and we would all love that. If the cancer spreads to far in then you have to remove the whole breast.
That is not what anyone wants to happen, but it is better than the alternative of letting the cancer spread to other parts of the body.
We are trying to save the whole breast here so you need to stop criticizing the effort which is necessary for the greater good. The cancer is killing more Iraqis than we are.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
I have to wonder about some of you guys like DealMonkey and Conjur, why you protest so hard about some terrorists who get killed. yet when our troops get killed in ambush attacks you say nothing.
Terrorism is like a cancer in this case we will call it breast cancer. Now if you can cut out the polyp and save the breast then that is ideal. So just kill the terrorist cells and save Iraq and we would all love that. If the cancer spreads to far in then you have to remove the whole breast.
That is not what anyone wants to happen, but it is better than the alternative of letting the cancer spread to other parts of the body.
We are trying to save the whole breast here so you need to stop criticizing the effort which is necessary for the greater good. The cancer is killing more Iraqis than we are.

There weren't terrorists, they were innocent women and children. Geeze, what are you retarded or something?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: chrisms
World's finest at work

Originally posted by: 11thHour
I think the moral to the story is to never trust our military leaders to account for anything. They are as bad as the bush administration in spreading disinformation and looking the other way when they are wrong.

Let me guess. You both will claim to "support the troops" though :roll:

CkG

Oh are we judging people now? Oh, oh! Let me try:

Let me guess. You and Korn will claim to be "liberating the Iraqis" though. :roll:

No, I didn't post that here, but these two saw fit to post their bile and I called them on it.

Defend them if you wish though...

CkG
 

IndieSnob

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Now if you can cut out the polyp and save the breast then that is ideal. So just kill the terrorist cells and save Iraq and we would all love that. If the cancer spreads to far in then you have to remove the whole breast.

But yet according to your logic from other posts, the 'breast' (iraqi civilians) aren't worth saving. Care to explain your position then?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Oh are we judging people now? Oh, oh! Let me try:

Let me guess. You and Korn will claim to be "liberating the Iraqis" though. :roll:

No, I didn't post that here, but these two saw fit to post their bile and I called them on it.

Defend them if you wish though...

CkG
Well they didn't post that here either, did they? So Cad, are we "liberating" the Iraqis by blowing them up in their homes twenty at a time? I guess since you didn't admonish Bugs for his little thread turd, I can safely assume you both have the same position . . .
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
No, I didn't post that here, but these two saw fit to post their bile and I called them on it.

Defend them if you wish though...

CkG
Well they didn't post that here either, did they? So Cad, are we "liberating" the Iraqis by blowing them up in their homes twenty at a time? I guess since you didn't admonish Bugs for his little thread turd, I can safely assume you both have the same position . . .

No, my post was about the "I support the troops" BS that gets tossed around by some. I'm wondering if these two wish to claim(or have already) the same inspite of the bile they posted here.

Again, you can defend them if you wish...

CkG
 

DealMonkey

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Yup, the same way some around here claim they "care" so much about the Iraqis, that's WHY we're over there liberating them after all. Guess they "care" so much, it makes it easy to carelessly dismiss reports of their deaths.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
I have to wonder about some of you guys like DealMonkey and Conjur, why you protest so hard about some terrorists who get killed. yet when our troops get killed in ambush attacks you say nothing.
Terrorism is like a cancer in this case we will call it breast cancer. Now if you can cut out the polyp and save the breast then that is ideal. So just kill the terrorist cells and save Iraq and we would all love that. If the cancer spreads to far in then you have to remove the whole breast.
That is not what anyone wants to happen, but it is better than the alternative of letting the cancer spread to other parts of the body.
We are trying to save the whole breast here so you need to stop criticizing the effort which is necessary for the greater good. The cancer is killing more Iraqis than we are.

Is it acceptable to kill innocent people for what YOU percieve to be the greater good?

You DO realize that that is exactly what they are thinking, don't you?

The cancer of this world are the extremists, the fundamentalists, christian or muslim doesn't matter, they are all the same, kill the other side, a few innocent lives mean nothing as long as it is done in the name of god.
 

BugsBunny1078

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
I have to wonder about some of you guys like DealMonkey and Conjur, why you protest so hard about some terrorists who get killed. yet when our troops get killed in ambush attacks you say nothing.
Terrorism is like a cancer in this case we will call it breast cancer. Now if you can cut out the polyp and save the breast then that is ideal. So just kill the terrorist cells and save Iraq and we would all love that. If the cancer spreads to far in then you have to remove the whole breast.
That is not what anyone wants to happen, but it is better than the alternative of letting the cancer spread to other parts of the body.
We are trying to save the whole breast here so you need to stop criticizing the effort which is necessary for the greater good. The cancer is killing more Iraqis than we are.

There weren't terrorists, they were innocent women and children. Geeze, what are you retarded or something?

Innocent women too? All virgins too I suppose. Maybe they are the virgins who will meet the martyrs up in heaven.
One Iraqi says he heard that there were women and children there, not even that he saw it himself.Let's look at the source.
Col. Mohammed Awad said members of the Fallujah Brigade had investigated the site and "affirmed to us that the inhabitants of the houses were ordinary families including women, children and elders."
What do these people know about investigations? Did they find a piece of womens clothing at the site and bunch of splattered human remains? Were the remains completely burned ? Where are photos?
How do we know anyone even investigated the site.
Mohammed is likely a terrorist sympathizer. If he is not then who the heck is he? Was he part of the Iraqi military which we just defeated? It is very likely he has a grudge against us of some sort either way.
So are you believing this persons story of heresay which he is not even claiming to have seen with his own eyes over the U.S. Military's word? What are your motivations if that is true?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
I have to wonder about some of you guys like DealMonkey and Conjur, why you protest so hard about some terrorists who get killed. yet when our troops get killed in ambush attacks you say nothing.
Terrorism is like a cancer in this case we will call it breast cancer. Now if you can cut out the polyp and save the breast then that is ideal. So just kill the terrorist cells and save Iraq and we would all love that. If the cancer spreads to far in then you have to remove the whole breast.
That is not what anyone wants to happen, but it is better than the alternative of letting the cancer spread to other parts of the body.
We are trying to save the whole breast here so you need to stop criticizing the effort which is necessary for the greater good. The cancer is killing more Iraqis than we are.

I think it's time for you to go to church and pray to your god for some brains.

See that topic summary above?

Perhaps you missed it. I'll paste it here:

Apparently, only civilians were killed!

Civilians! Not terrorists!

Got it???

The blame lies with the intelligence gathering and review, not with the soldiers who were involved in the attack.
 

BugsBunny1078

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Of course the topic says that so that is the proof needed! GUILTY AS CHARGED!
Wait I'd like to hear from one person who actually was involved with the investigation.
Why haven't any of them spoken out?
You sure put alot of faith in the Fallujah Brigade.
 

conjur

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Um, the articles do point out statements from people involved in the investigation.
 

Gaard

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I'd like to ask Bugs if it becomes clear thru 'acceptable' sources that women and children were killed if he will retract his statement?
 
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