September 22nd ETA for AMD FX processors

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I thought there was an 8170 too? Or is that a Q4 model?

If I remember correctly the 8170 was suppose to be the top model. If this is truly the case with those delivery dates, more than likely then true numbers will begin to leak out.
 
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BlueBlazer

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What happened to the FX-4xxx series?
Just to recap this...
A big chunk of AMD's revenues on desktop actually came from Athlon II processors (followed by Phenom II X2 & X4s). One does wonder the situation when AMD FX is finally released.
AMD may be holding on to them until inventories of those CPUs (Athlon II series) are almost cleared out, otherwise may cannibalize current CPU sales. Similar to Phenom-based Athlon X2 7750 timeline (speculation). :hmm:
 

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Showing 90 on order for the 8150 and 60 for the 8120.

Anyway interesting if true, September launch would be a welcome surprise. I'd think we would have heard something more official from AMD by now if they were going to be available to end users by the 22nd, though.
 

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I was planning on ditching my Sandybridge for this but I am so mad that it took this long to release. I was ready to build in March which AMD should of had new product out by then since my upgrade cycle is every 3 years. I think I am just going to hold on to my 2500k and see what everyone else says about it. I am just too happy with what I have now.
 

trollolo

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Although these prices look very tempting, i'm still worried about their single thread performance.
 

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Although these prices look very tempting, i'm still worried about their single thread performance.

If I see this one more time I think I'll scream. Single thread performance is quickly becoming a thing of the past. A person still talking about single thread performance today should still be using a modem. Its a dying horse that is getting closer to death.
 

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Although these prices look very tempting, i'm still worried about their single thread performance.

You and everyone that's kept abreast of the dubious leaks that have sprung up like mushrooms after the rain.

However, at this point with the general mood being that BD will be an improvement over Phenom II that will perform around an I52500K for similar or less £/$, is IPC and single thread performance really that important at this price point? Lets be blunt, even a £85 Phenom II 955 is more than capable of handling everything you could reasonably throw at it in terms of normal media and games use to the point that the latest games aren't CPU limited unless they are badly optimized console ports. Not everyone is a gamer, but that's the single most CPU intensive task that the largest number of PC owners use their machines for (and a small percentage of the total market, lets be honest here- PC gaming is tiny compared to business and other non-leisure uses)

Does it matter if BD only performs close to an I5 2500K in single-quad thread, when you probably aren't going to notice the difference and if its significantly cheaper to build a system around?

Average Joe isnt going to notice differences in performance that close- and he doesn't care whats in the box besides what marketing buzzwords get thrown at him like '8 cores!!!!'. Joe just wants to walk into a store and buy a PC that works.

Just my thinking aloud, accuracy and validity not guaranteed
 
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Ancalagon44

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If I see this one more time I think I'll scream. Single thread performance is quickly becoming a thing of the past. A person still talking about single thread performance today should still be using a modem. Its a dying horse that is getting closer to death.

Would you rather game on a dual core atom or dual core i3? i3? Really? But you said single thread performance doesnt matter?

Clearly it DOES still matter.
 

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Would you rather game on a dual core atom or dual core i3? i3? Really? But you said single thread performance doesnt matter?

Clearly it DOES still matter.

To a point... see my above stream of consciousness.

My feeling is that single thread performance at the moment is more than good enough in mainstream CPU's that the biggest gains for the consumer are in the entire industry moving towards multiple threads and scalability as the standard.

I wonder if thats AMD's long term game plan- a shift towards the bottom end and catering to users that don't need a ferrari, but could sure do with a pickup that will get them from A to B fast enough and still tow a trailer behind it.

Build it and they will come- software is only going to take more advantage of more threads as time goes on.


implying i'm not using a modem.

I miss the sound of my 56k wub
 
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If I see this one more time I think I'll scream. Single thread performance is quickly becoming a thing of the past. A person still talking about single thread performance today should still be using a modem. Its a dying horse that is getting closer to death.
Hey, so you've finally found some so far unknown scalable, parallel, work-efficient PRAM algorithms for sparse graphs that work in practice? And all those other algorithms that just don't scale very well or at all? Terrific, where can I read up on those? And not that more casual problems like eg gaming scale that well to even a handful cores (there's usually 1-2 threads that are much higher stressed than the others for obvious reasons)

Oh you're saying you've got just no clue what you're talking about? Pity
 

Ancalagon44

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To a point... see my above stream of consciousness.

My feeling is that single thread performance at the moment is more than good enough in mainstream CPU's that the biggest gains for the consumer are in the entire industry moving towards multiple threads and scalability as the standard.

I wonder if thats AMD's long term game plan- a shift towards the bottom end and catering to users that don't need a ferrari, but could sure do with a pickup that will get them from A to B fast enough and still tow a trailer behind it.

Build it and they will come- software is only going to take more advantage of more threads as time goes on.




I miss the sound of my 56k wub

Fast CPUs are unfortunately what you need to boost minimum framerates. I'm seeing the effects in Deus Ex HR on my Athlon II X4 clocked at 3.1Ghz. Its sometimes jumpy. Not low framerates I think.

And that is with a game designed to run on current generation consoles. Can you imagine what will happen when next gen consoles come out, and PC games get upgraded to match?
 

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If I see this one more time I think I'll scream. Single thread performance is quickly becoming a thing of the past. A person still talking about single thread performance today should still be using a modem. Its a dying horse that is getting closer to death.
And that's the mentality which JF-AMD was touting (all around the forums), the gospel single thread doesn't matter. That's true for servers, but not necessarily for desktop users. It like choosing between Pentium4 and Athlon 64, or between Pentium Extreme Edition 965 (has 4 hardware threads) and Athlon FX-60 (dual core only).

Unfortunately that manner of thinking is falsehood. Single threaded performance still matters, in many areas especially where software isn't multi-threaded (lots of them out there), or cannot fully make use of multi-core processing (especially those that work with data dependancies). Majority of desktop applications and games are still dependant on this performance factor. :hmm:
 
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Would you rather game on a dual core atom or dual core i3? i3? Really? But you said single thread performance doesnt matter?

Clearly it DOES still matter.

You do realize gaming is but a small fraction of the software world, right? You do realize that most apps used in business are either being rewritten or patched to take advantage of multiple cpu cores, right? You do realize that most games being written right now are being written to take advantage of multiple cpu cores, right?

When 3DFX believed in full screen AA, someone said it wasn't possible. They changed gaming forever. When AMD said they would bring out a true dual core cpu, someone said it wasn't needed or necessary. The changed the cpu market forever.

Hardware has always been the lead for software. I have run VMware in the workplace now for over 3 years now, virtulization needs multiple cores and threads.

But hey how's 9600 baud treating you.
 

trollolo

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Google image search for "more cores", picture of AMD shows up. :sneaky:

herp derp

you've got mad written all over you, which is funny, because single thread performance will always be a big deal.

edit: to the kid below me, delete your post. i'm here to talk about CPU's, not argue with kids about how i'm allowed to talk. the point i'm making is plenty valid and relevant.
 
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Imouto

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you've got mad written all over you, which is funny, because single thread performance will always be a big deal.

And you have a pathetic "4channer troll" tattooed in your forehead.

4channer talk isn't cool anymore, in fact is frigging old.
 
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