Server hardware is a ripoff

[rudeguy]

CrashPlan allows for local backups to an external drive using the same service used for their online backup. Not sure about Carbonite.




Time is money, though.

The other factor is moon's boss ripping him a new one for building a shit server if it goes down. Might not cost dollars but frustration is a different story.

Build it right or don't build it at all. OP doesn't want dicking with this server to be his career.

 

[holden j caufield]

are these online backups just folders, then computing the delta changes for the daily backups? What about the OS, credentials, licenses, terminal apps, settings etc. How is that restored?

 

[jlee]

are these online backups just folders, then computing the delta changes for the daily backups? What about the OS, credentials, licenses, terminal apps, settings etc. How is that restored?

From what I'm picking up on here, all they need is a giant networked thumbdrive. They don't seem to be using it for anything other than simple file storage (as evidenced by the "just plug a USB hard drive into my workstation and use that" comment earlier).

 

[child of wonder]

This thread separates the men from the boys.

 

[holden j caufield]

Has anyone used the veeam online backups? Them I'd trust to restore everything including all your OS, settings, licenses etc.

 

[ultimatebob]

That's for the weak. His boss will really appreciate the blazing speed of RAID0 SSDs. If he goes with RAID0, he'll get a promotion for sure.

If he really wants to save money, he should get refurbished hard drives as well! Who needs more than a 90 day warranty, anyway.

 

[Gunbuster]

Your online backups will be awesome when some dope clicks a cryptowall email and no one notices until it replicates to all your backups.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

WTF ... What is your budget? Why did no one ask this?

Is this to support 1 software dev project? Is this a company wide server?

 

[sourceninja]

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[sdifox]

Buy a used last gen rack mount server form ebay, like I did.
get 5 ent grade 500gb ssd
stripe+miror+1 hot spare
done.

mind you my setup is just my plex server, not work related

 

[Kaido]

Sounds like a brilliant plan to me. You would never need IPMI to remotely access server hardware if the OS fails to load. Nor do you need to get one with redundant PSUs in case one fails. And you couldn't possibly need the 24/7 on site support for a year or more that comes with most server purchases.

Yeah, that's the sad thing...you can piecemeal it, but if you want to do anything remotely serious, you need the big-boy toys, which come with the big-boy pricetag. There are IP-KVM's & other goodies available, but it's not like say a turnkey Dell where you get 4-hour replacement service, dual PSU's, remote access, ECC RAM, server-grade drives, battery backup on the RAID cards themselves, etc.

That's not to say there's not a place for homemade servers. I build them as appropriate. It's pretty nice to buy able to buy an 8-core Intel chip with 64 gigs of RAM & a 2,000 mb/s G.Skill PCIe card, and buy a complete set of spare parts for a hot-swap server, for a few grand. Or throw up a Synology NAS with 30 terabytes for around $3,000 with basic domain functionality. But for anything I'd really want to set & forget, heck no! :awe:

 

[Kntx]

Just call DropBox? No point for small/medium business to have servers anymore.

 

[sdifox]

Just call DropBox? No point for small/medium business to have servers anymore.

lulz depending on your isp for daily access to your files. Brilliant.

 

[cliftonite]

Buy a used last gen rack mount server form ebay, like I did.
get 5 ent grade 500gb ssd
stripe+miror+1 hot spare
done.

mind you my setup is just my plex server, not work related

What did you end up buying? I need to build a homelab for vmware/citrix.

 

[Kntx]

lulz depending on your isp for daily access to your files. Brilliant.

DropBox has offline access to files. You can lose your connection and still access your files. There's good money to be made consulting small/medium businesses on how to take advantage of public cloud services. Big big cost savings.

I'll take the Googles, Amazons and Microsofts of the world over some goof like the OP jamming a gaming PC in the office closet.

 

[TheSlamma]

That's for the weak. His boss will really appreciate the blazing speed of RAID0 SSDs. If he goes with RAID0, he'll get a promotion for sure.

RAID0 isn't even RAID it's more like AID (404 Redundancy not found)

If he wants speed AND redundancy then he goes RAID10, that would get him a promotion.. but then of course he's got to spend that money on a controller that support RAID10 and the minimum 4 disks

 

[dave_the_nerd]

lulz depending on your isp for daily access to your files. Brilliant.

If you're a business, you're probably already relying on your ISP for a good chunk of everything already.

Internet outages aren't an inconvenience, they're a reason to close up shop.

 

[matricks]

What OS are you going to run? I'd pick Windows XP for a project like this. Now that MS finally managed to fix the last bugs last year, it'll be great and bug-free. No rebooting, no crashes, no hassles.

/s

 

[sdifox]

What did you end up buying? I need to build a homelab for vmware/citrix.

in my sig

 

[sdifox]

If you're a business, you're probably already relying on your ISP for a good chunk of everything already.

Internet outages aren't an inconvenience, they're a reason to close up shop.

connecting to outside, yes. a cessing your own files, not so much. remember, op runs a mickey mouse shop, I doubt they have reliable pipes.

 

[sdifox]

DropBox has offline access to files. You can lose your connection and still access your files. There's good money to be made consulting small/medium businesses on how to take advantage of public cloud services. Big big cost savings.

I'll take the Googles, Amazons and Microsofts of the world over some goof like the OP jamming a gaming PC in the office closet.

so local copy of the file, which is what op is trying to consolidate.

 

[bigi]

So I'm buying a server for my job and I was going to get a real server, with real server hardware, with a real server OS, and real server ram, and a real server pair of SSD, and then I saw the price and it gave me a real severe headache.
I'm buying a god damn gaming PC and using that. Screw this expensive crap.

Wow. Buying 1 server? You must be working at a burger joint. Good job.

 

[Gunbuster]

Wow. Buying 1 server? You must be working at a burger joint. Good job.

Oh come on. I work at a smallish place and could get by on one server. However it would be a tricked out R730xd 768GB RAM, 32 core VM monster.

 

[ultimatebob]

What did you end up buying? I need to build a homelab for vmware/citrix.

I have a PowerEdge T310 and a PowerEdge T410 for that. You really need two physical boxes to test failover properly, since it would be slow as well (and unsupported) if you try to run two instances of ESXi virtualized on a single system.

 

[moonbogg]

Wow. Buying 1 server? You must be working at a burger joint. Good job.