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dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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Another victory for everyone...... except the tantrum throwing crybabies.

Instead of throwing a hissy-fit over every single nominee, the lefties should have focused on one (or maybe two) that they considered the worst. When you throw a hissy fit over everything, nobody cares anymore when you throw a hissy fit. If that means every nominee has to be confirmed strictly along party lines (or, as in this case, close to it), so be it. You can't compromise with a a petulant child throwing a temper tantrum, and that's what the lefties are right now. So you basically ignore them and do what needs to be done.

And that's exactly what Democrats did with the ACA.
 

brandonbull

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May 3, 2005
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I love how Warren triggered all these republican pussies. How dare that woman bring history in the discussion and read a letter! Engage Safe Space mode!

Mitch McConnell is almost as much a sensitive little bitch as Donald Dump. Sad!

Let's hope this kind of ridiculous shit doesn't last long.

I thought there was a some uncertainty with the history of the "letter".
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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And they didn't keep adding personal attacks not contained in the letter.

O'REILLY: Do you think that Senator Warren should have been allowed to read Mrs. King's letter?

SASSE: You know, I think that there's all sorts of really important history of the civil rights movement that we should be celebrating. But the rule, rule 19, nothing says primetime television like esoteric rules of the U.S. Senate, that rule 19 makes it clear that you can't impugn the motives of another senator.

O'REILLY: Right.

SASSE: And you can't do it even by putting it in somebody else's voice.

O'REILLY: Okay.

SASSE: So, it's a violation of the rules.

O'REILLY: You know, it was a clear violation but Senator Warren doesn't seem to respect the rules as they are written. Now, you have not been a fan of Donald Trump's. But his cabinet selections are embraced by the majority of the Republicans holding office. What say you about them?...

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/02/09/how-is-senate-dealing-with-trump-controversies/
 

Blackjack200

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And they didn't keep adding personal attacks not contained in the letter.

Warren, as you probably know, was delivering a floor statement against Sessions and had just finished quoting from a 1986 letter by Coretta Scott King. In opposing his unsuccessful nomination to a federal judgeship, the civil rights leader’s widow wrote that Sessions, as a prosecutor, had tried “to intimidate and frighten elderly black voters.”

McConnell invoked a rule that prevents senators from disparaging their fellow lawmakers. When Warren persisted, the majority leader engineered a party-line vote that stripped her of the right to speak on the Sessions nomination.

The tactic was a bit puzzling, since there was no question that Sessions would be easily confirmed, as he was last night. As a shrewd tactician, McConnell had to know that his move would mushroom into a huge story. And Warren had to know that if she kept reading the letter, she would lose the parliamentary battle.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...n-boost-as-dems-seize-on-silencing-theme.html
 

ElFenix

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Warren, as you probably know, was delivering a floor statement against Sessions and had just finished quoting from a 1986 letter by Coretta Scott King. In opposing his unsuccessful nomination to a federal judgeship, the civil rights leader’s widow wrote that Sessions, as a prosecutor, had tried “to intimidate and frighten elderly black voters.”

McConnell invoked a rule that prevents senators from disparaging their fellow lawmakers. When Warren persisted, the majority leader engineered a party-line vote that stripped her of the right to speak on the Sessions nomination.

The tactic was a bit puzzling, since there was no question that Sessions would be easily confirmed, as he was last night. As a shrewd tactician, McConnell had to know that his move would mushroom into a huge story. And Warren had to know that if she kept reading the letter, she would lose the parliamentary battle.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...n-boost-as-dems-seize-on-silencing-theme.html
streisand effect. they have to know about it.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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So why were 4 white male senators allowed to read the same letter the next day? What changed?

You know what? Don't answer that.



Sounds like a good motto for the GOP.

I do not know.

What does WHITE have to do with it anyway? I think you are projecting racism where there wasn't any.

It could be this part of the rule: " no Senator in debate shall " The next day they were not debating were they?

If they did while they were debating they were also wrong in my opinion and should have gotten the same treatment.

She was warned and continued breaking the rules. She was asking for it.

Ah yes that explains why the exact same conduct by her male peers was allowed to happen.

See my answer above.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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So if you believe the nominee, who happens to be a senator, is unqualified, how on earth do you voice your opposition?
Or are you just supposed to stfu?

Silencing Warren was bullshit and everyone knows it. Just like all the other crap Republicans pull off, it's just a thinly veiled excuse to silence or disenfranchise someone.

You read the rule. It applies to both parties. She was warned and ignored the warning.
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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You read the rule. It applies to both parties. She was warned and ignored the warning.

and what of the spirit of the rule? it's to preserve the polite/gentlemanly nature of the senate - to debate ideas, not attack your opponent. invoking the rule in this case is inappropriate, because the subject of the debate IS a person. that's why it's bullshit. you cannot debate a person if no one can speak ill of them or otherwise bring up unflattering information. that is inherently contradictory to the idea of a debate,

by invoking the rules, the republicans have clearly signaled (not that there was much if any doubt in the first place) that they are not interested in actual debate of any kind. they simply want to railroad anything and everything on the agenda that is labeled with an R, and deny everything labeled with a D.

and this is largely a symptom of two-party politics. rather than actually trying to work towards the good of the country, they work towards the party ideology, consequences be damned.

it is truly hard for me to believe that everyone who voted for sessions or devos genuinely believes that they are appropriate candidates for their positions (or most of trump's picks, for that matter). how could one honestly and objectively confirm a person to head the department of education who has no experience in the education system, in any capacity, whatsoever?
 

MongGrel

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and what of the spirit of the rule? it's to preserve the polite/gentlemanly nature of the senate - to debate ideas, not attack your opponent. invoking the rule in this case is inappropriate, because the subject of the debate IS a person. that's why it's bullshit. you cannot debate a person if no one can speak ill of them or otherwise bring up unflattering information. that is inherently contradictory to the idea of a debate,

by invoking the rules, the republicans have clearly signaled (not that there was much if any doubt in the first place) that they are not interested in actual debate of any kind. they simply want to railroad anything and everything on the agenda that is labeled with an R, and deny everything labeled with a D.

and this is largely a symptom of two-party politics. rather than actually trying to work towards the good of the country, they work towards the party ideology, consequences be damned.

it is truly hard for me to believe that everyone who voted for sessions or devos genuinely believes that they are appropriate candidates for their positions (or most of trump's picks, for that matter). how could one honestly and objectively confirm a person to head the department of education who has no experience in the education system, in any capacity, whatsoever?

The Potus has been running around grabbing pussies most his life, we are worried about decorum now ?

 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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and what of the spirit of the rule? it's to preserve the polite/gentlemanly nature of the senate - to debate ideas, not attack your opponent. invoking the rule in this case is inappropriate, because the subject of the debate IS a person. that's why it's bullshit. you cannot debate a person if no one can speak ill of them or otherwise bring up unflattering information. that is inherently contradictory to the idea of a debate,

by invoking the rules, the republicans have clearly signaled (not that there was much if any doubt in the first place) that they are not interested in actual debate of any kind. they simply want to railroad anything and everything on the agenda that is labeled with an R, and deny everything labeled with a D.

and this is largely a symptom of two-party politics. rather than actually trying to work towards the good of the country, they work towards the party ideology, consequences be damned.


it is truly hard for me to believe that everyone who voted for sessions or devos genuinely believes that they are appropriate candidates for their positions (or most of trump's picks, for that matter). how could one honestly and objectively confirm a person to head the department of education who has no experience in the education system, in any capacity, whatsoever?

Sounds like the Democrats clinging to their 30 hours just to stall things out.

I'm not going to debate the rule. It is clear as crystal what it says. She was warned and ignored the warning and then told to sit down.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Another victory for everyone...... except the tantrum throwing crybabies.

Instead of throwing a hissy-fit over every single nominee, the lefties should have focused on one (or maybe two) that they considered the worst. When you throw a hissy fit over everything, nobody cares anymore when you throw a hissy fit. If that means every nominee has to be confirmed strictly along party lines (or, as in this case, close to it), so be it. You can't compromise with a a petulant child throwing a temper tantrum, and that's what the lefties are right now. So you basically ignore them and do what needs to be done.
What exactly did everyone win? Hating the left might keep you warm at night, but it's not really a positive agenda for the rest of us. What is Sessions going to do as AG besides pissing off Democrats?
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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What exactly did everyone win? Hating the left might keep you warm at night, but it's not really a positive agenda for the rest of us. What is Sessions going to do as AG besides pissing off Democrats?
He's going to do what conservatives all want him to do, obliterate the rights of minorities while wiping his ass with the Constitution.
 
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