SETI: "A TeAm AnandTech - Seti" Huddle

[Smoke]

As many of you know, we are getting very close to the introduction of BOINC.

Latest Word from Seti@Home

Quote from the above linked article, "Moving SETI@home to BOINC:

Stages of the transition

We don't have an exact timetable yet, but the transition will be staged as follows:

1. We will make a snapshot of SETI@home user information (accounts, teams, profiles) and will use it to initialize the SETI@home/BOINC database. We will then launch the SETI@home/BOINC project.

2. Over the next month or so we will send email to all SETI@home users, giving them their new account IDs and recommending that they switch to BOINC. During this period you can continue to run the current SETI@home, and your results will be recorded and used. New SETI@home accounts and team changes can be made, but will not be carried over to BOINC.

3. We will turn off the current SETI@home server. At this point you will need to switch to SETI@home/BOINC.

Let's discuss how we, as a team, should proceed.

1. Should we continue to crunch S@H-1 until the current Seti@Home server gets turned off?
2. Should we switch over to BOINC as soon as it becomes available?

By crunching S@H-1 until the bitter end, we will enhance our final standings. Snipped from the above linked message, "[T]he workunit totals from the current SETI@home will be recorded in <the Seti@Home> database, and a section of <the Seti@Home Website> will show the final totals."

So we seem to be faced with a decision. Do we switch over immediately and get a fast start on BOINC or do we keep digging for the finish line of S@H-1?

 

[RaySun2Be]

I say let's crunch SETI1 until the bitter end.

(and for some reason, my vote wasn't recorded by the poll :Q)

 

[BofRA]

Can I check both? I think it will be good to move over but for those with large fleets it might not work very well to move over. Not to mention the lack of 3rd part progs to enhance it.

SO maybe a partial swap of home fleets and those with large " networks" should finish out SAH1 until a better solution is available.

(Oh yeah mine didn't record on the poll either)

 

[ICXRa]

You guys get up to early!

 

[ICXRa]

My vote didn't go through either!

 

[Smoke]

It appears the POLL got screwed up. I tried to UPDATE it but it still wouldn't work so I just deleted it. A discussion here would probably be better anyway. Anyone and everyone could vote in a POLL which could end up with bogus results.

Your replies are better and much more interesting.

 

[ICXRa]

OK once a new member joins and the mentor gets a good feeling for what they will be doing production wise on S&H1 the mentor informs a certian TeAm memeber TBD and a machine is converted to BOINC. That or perhaps we start all new members on BOINC to start some production while keeping the main focus on finishing SH1.

my 2 cents

 

[BofRA]

I thnk the first part of ICXRa's suggestion might work. I don't think we should straight up get the new members to switch because of the current lack of "support" for the program It will be easier to walk a new member through the pains of startup with sah1.

 

[ICXRa]

Yeah I was thinking the lack of support would be a problem too and not a real good way to get a new member off to a start if in fact he/she ran into problems but thought perhaps this version will really be more user friendly for most users.

 

[Spacehead]

I was planning on running SETI 1 till the end.
And depending on how BOINC works out, i may not be able to run it on my second computer anyway.

I still find it hard to believe that they plan on little or no public testing of the new client. That's how it sounds to me at least.
I still have alot of questions about how the new client will work, as i guess alot of us do.

 

[soni]

Not to mention the stats problem.
Their "socalled" XML stats isnt really "XML" and where the hell do they place it for setiII?

 

[Coolkid]

Originally posted by: RaySun2Be
I say let's crunch SETI1 until the bitter end.

Sounds good

 

[titanmiller]

Originally posted by: Coolkid

Originally posted by: RaySun2Be
I say let's crunch SETI1 until the bitter end.

Sounds good

 

[titanmiller]

At this point there is no "proxy" for BOINC, i.e. a mechanism for running the client on machines not directly connected to the Internet. This is more difficult with BOINC than with SETI@home Classic, but it may be possible.

That is going to complicate my situation alot.

 

[SNC]

Originally posted by: titanmiller

At this point there is no "proxy" for BOINC, i.e. a mechanism for running the client on machines not directly connected to the Internet. This is more difficult with BOINC than with SETI@home Classic, but it may be possible.

That is going to complicate my situation alot.

Me too. I will most likely just quit after S@H1.
Somewhere aroung 200GB of CPU sitting idle is not a good thing. But I dont think I will have the time to spend switching them all over and trouble shoot problems, apply patches, deal with conflicts and on and on and on............

So you can count on me to be with S@H1 till the end.

 

[EvilWobbles]

I'll probably be an early adopter of BOINC. (That's just rolls off the tongue doesn't it? BOINC...BOINC...BOINC...)

Anyway, my work fleet has dwindled recently so it will be easier for me to transition my fleet over to the new Seti. I'd like to get in early and test the new BOINC out. There will be growing pains with the program and I'd like to help figure out what those pains are.

I think PCs that are easily accessible and easily monitored should switch over to BOINC so we can establish some BOINC expertise. We need that expertise so we can help transition the rest of the TeAm to BOINC once S@H1 ends.

 

[Confused]

I'm currently running Astropulse on BOINC, and it's quite a nice, compact client.

I'm patiently waiting for S@H to come to it, and I will switch at least 1 computer over to it, so that I can get my name on the board early on


Garry

 

[MoFunk]

I am bummed at the proxy thing. This will turn a lot of folks away. I have some PC's that i wont be able to get to since they are out of town. I will crunch till the very end, but will see how BOINC runs on my main PC first before I spend the time trying to get it up and running on my others.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

I was going to switch to boinc about 2 weeks ago, but decided to stick with s@h1 until the end, to keep bbr off our backs to the end, so it doesn't matter to me either way really. I do however wonder why the boinc develpers left out networking options such as proxy, and didn't allow any kind of remote access to the clients like setiqueue?

 

[Freewolf]

I'm not ready to give sixth place to BBR myself and If they don't have a seti q program a lot of people will not be running boinc

 

[compudog]

I am going to keep my "fleet" on S@H-1 until the end. I am putting together a machine that I will start with S@H-BOINC (just so I can answer any questions of new TeAmates)

Thanks for starting this thread Smoke, as it's something we have all been thinking about.


But, best of all, lets beat BBR!!!!! GO TeAm!!!!!




Go TeAm!!!

 

[wirelessenabled]

I will be with Seti1 until the "bitter end".

Then will be letting my computer admin take over the fleet to run what he likes. Most likely will be switching over to some medical type DC.

 

[Freewolf]

From What they been saying boinc will be doing different projects including folding at home which is a type of medical project

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Freewolf
I'm not ready to give sixth place to BBR myself and If they don't have a seti q program a lot of people will not be running boinc

 

[Mitzi]

So Seti@HOME as we know it is coming to an end?? How come I'm always the last person to know!! :Q

I'll stick with Seti until the end...

Going to read up on what this BOINC is all about