setup out side the case

[worlad]

Yes the fan on the Heatsink worked fine. I'll write down your instructions and after dinner I'll have a go and see what happens. Thanks Buz2b. I have to say. " your a good man for lifting my spirits ".

 

[worlad]

Buz2b, I didn't get a beep without the RAM and hooked up outside the case, I even took the video card out of this machine, but nothing unfortunately. There can't be much more I can do is there? other than buy a new processor.

 

[hundesau]

@Vtach: look for arctic silver.

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: worlad
Buz2b, I didn't get a beep without the RAM and hooked up outside the case, I even took the video card out of this machine, but nothing unfortunately. There can't be much more I can do is there? other than buy a new processor.

It's not sounding too good right now, I'll have to admit. The problem is, it might well be the motherboard and not the CPU. Assuming you (or a friend) don't have a MB to test the CPU in, nor a CPU to test in your system, you can do one of a few things.
1. Take the cpu to a local shop and have them test it. That will tell you with some certainty what is going on. However, I would stress that you do not mention ANYTHING that has gone on with your build so far. Just tell them a little "white lie" and say you just got this from a friend and want to make sure it's good. That shouldn't be too expensive.
2. Do the same thing with the MB or maybe take both in at the same time.
3. Flip a coin and decide which component, the CPU or the MB you want to return first. In all honesty there's justification for both items being bad. If the RAM was missing in a MB, it should've beeped; same with the video card. However, if the CPU were bad you could have the same symptoms.
4. Return both the mb and the cpu for replacements.
Take no offense but I have to ask. Are you absolutely sure you hooked up the PSU correctly in your last tests? Did the heat sink fan spin when you tried this time? If applicable, did you hook up the fan connector for the HSF to the correct connector on the MB?
So many questions, so much money!

 

[worlad]

The thing is that this board and CPU did work at the very first attempt out side the case, I did have an error message saying "error no harddrive detected", It was when I put the board in the case my troubles started. I'll gamble on the fact/not that I toasted the CPU, after all thats where the smoke came from. I'll just have to take it on the chin(and in the ear from my wife) . As you say I could have" damaged the board". A costly experience for me. I'll order a new CPU today. "A fool and his money are soon parted". Anyway thanks for your input Buz2b I'm sure Ill need your help soon.

 

[hundesau]

how many spacers u used to fix the mobo in the case? maybe a short so try to fix it with only 4 or 6 spacers or screws.

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: hundesau
how many spacers u used to fix the mobo in the case? maybe a short so try to fix it with only 4 or 6 spacers or screws.

Another good point. After reading the OP's last post, it brought that back to mind. Another reason to set the thing up outside the case again and carefully recheck all connections before booting.
It's very easy to accidently short the MB on the standoffs if one or more is not in the correct position. It's worth a shot before spending more $$.

 

[worlad]

I'm sure the spacers/standoffs are the reason why I toasted my CPU/MOBO . Every thing is outside the case and has been for some time. Not a beep or peep do I get whilst wired up outside the case. I've followed Buz2b's advice to the letter but you know when you have an itch you can't leave it alone, I had another look , another fiddle, zilch. But, I put the AGP back in and forgot to put the power plug in the back of the card again, and it screeched, which perhaps tells me the board is good. I was on the net to buy another CPU and in the check out ready to buyand I thought,wait till Monday and see if anyone on the Forum comes up with something/remedy. I know, cluching at straws. I've just remembered, at the last power up I did, the RAM showed a faint amberglow which led me to believe the CPU is useless.

 

[Buz2b]

Even I'm kind of grasping at straws here now but you mentioned that the RAM "showed a faint amberglow which led you to believe the CPU was uselss". I may not be on the same page with you here but let me give this a shot. When you say the RAM showed a glow, are you referring to the LED's on the RAM itself? The "glow" is really just a power/activity light and could just be indicating that the RAM was getting some power. I realize that the CPU has the memory controller built in but the BIOS of the MB is still the first communication with the RAM. The fact that the video card "screeched" again is interesting but try not to do that any more! (Just a bit of levity)
I take it there's no chance you could get the CPU tested at a local shop for a few bucks (usually $10-20 at the most). It would/could save you some money in the long run. Heck, make a few calls and see what someone would charge to test both the MB and CPU for you. At worse they could tell you both are bad. At best they could save you some money replacing something that is still good.
Did the CPU fan spin when you tried to boot? What about the floppy seek light; did it light? Did the power supply fan(s) spin at all? If none of the above happened, it could be something other than the cpu/mb combo.

 

[worlad]

About an hour ago I powered up, board still out of the case and three fans were working but no LED activity on the RAM.There was no seek light from the floppy. After I read your post I took another look, powered up and the CPU smoked again, really acrid burn smell. You are right that " I should have someone take a look at the board and CPU, paying for it is not a problem, it's finding someone in our one horse town. I'll take a look in yellow pages after this post.

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: worlad
About an hour ago I powered up, board still out of the case and three fans were working but no LED activity on the RAM.There was no seek light from the floppy. After I read your post I took another look, powered up and the CPU smoked again, really acrid burn smell. You are right that " I should have someone take a look at the board and CPU, paying for it is not a problem, it's finding someone in our one horse town. I'll take a look in yellow pages after this post.

Well, if nothing else, it kind of sounds like your MB might be OK. It certainly can get the power to the CPU. :shocked: Hopefully your venture into the yellow pages will bring forth someone that can test the two components for a reasonable price. Let us know.

 

[worlad]

I most certainly will, thanks. If you can I'd like you to see me through this build.

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: worlad
I most certainly will, thanks. If you can I'd like you to see me through this build.

Not a problem. There are also lots of others here that can and will assist. Either keep posting here or start a new thread once you get things (the cpu/mb) figured out. If you start a new one, just PM me and I'll jump in. Good Luck!

 

[worlad]

Hi,sorry that it has taken me so long to get back. I bought a new CPU and Mainboard. "This is costing me a fortune". It ran okay out the case and its running inside the case. I downloaded on to six floppies (whatever) from Windows download site. Placed in one after the other," looked good" but, then Windows told me it couldn't find my CD Rom. The BIOS also doesn't show the drive. The HDD is on the SATA cable and the CD ROM is on a ribbon cable. I've tried it on the PRI IDE and the SEC. I've tried the jumper on the drive in the three positions,but no go. The voice on this thing tells me the POST is complete and this computer is booting from the O/S. "So near so far". By the way Buz2b, what does PM stand for?

I've just realized the meaning of PM. DOH