Sewer worker made over $530K last year

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gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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Good for him

Sounds like a demanding job with awful hours in sub-par working conditions, in a city that has I believe the highest cost of living in the US (or close). Based on the article it also sounds like the requirements are specialized enough that having a shortage of workers would be true, as it's not a profession most people would consider pursuing. I'm sure the people bitching about him making so much are also the people bitching that they don't get paid enough while turning their noses up at a job like this.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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The article doesn't reveal how much of the $530k was money owed to him from work done in previous years. It's kind of important to the story. "City worker finally gets $XXXk in wrongly withheld wages after 10 year battle" doesn't make nearly as interesting a headline.
This. Every post I've seen of this on every forum leaves this part out. Oh, the faux rage!
 

pete6032

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The article doesn't reveal how much of the $530k was money owed to him from work done in previous years. It's kind of important to the story. "City worker finally gets $XXXk in wrongly withheld wages after 10 year battle" doesn't make nearly as interesting a headline.

Exactly. There was in article in the news here the other day about city workers getting a 10% raise, that was the headline. But that raise is actually 10% over five years, or 1.9% annually - about the pace of long-term inflation.That's not nearly as enticing of a title.
 

ctbaars

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Considering this:
"positions require a state operator license and proficiency with high-voltage equipment — “an extraordinarily high skill set.”"
I find it appalling:
"Of the 207 stationary engineers, 99 clocked more than 400 hours of OT and 37 made $100,000 or more."

That 170 made less than $100,000.00 in NYC!
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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The important question is always,"When I flush the toilet, does the crap go out of my life?" If "yes", the rest is small potatos. If that means somebody, somewhere is making a buttload of money making sure that the system works, I'm good with that.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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From the article: pay bolstered by 10 years worth of back pay, staff shortages causing overtime. This isn't far fetched at all. I'd like to see what his pay was for a few years prior, and what the back pay was.

Considering almost anyone wouldn't even take a job in wastewater management, really doesn't seem out there.
 

madoka

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Jun 22, 2004
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From the article: pay bolstered by 10 years worth of back pay, staff shortages causing overtime. This isn't far fetched at all. I'd like to see what his pay was for a few years prior, and what the back pay was.

Considering almost anyone wouldn't even take a job in wastewater management, really doesn't seem out there.

I know this is a novel concept for you, but if you'd bother reading before commenting, even excluding the back pay which amounted to $67K, a sewer worker made more than the President of the United States.

If that doesn't strike you as ridiculous, then you've completely lost touch with reality.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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I know this is a novel concept for you, but if you'd bother reading before commenting, even excluding the back pay which amounted to $67K, a sewer worker made more than the President of the United States.

If that doesn't strike you as ridiculous, then you've completely lost touch with reality.
The guy keeps the sewers working, the pres can't even keep toilet paper off his shoe.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I know this is a novel concept for you, but if you'd bother reading before commenting, even excluding the back pay which amounted to $67K, a sewer worker made more than the President of the United States.

If that doesn't strike you as ridiculous, then you've completely lost touch with reality.

It's not in the OP, so wtf?

I don't care if he makes more than the POTUS. You apparently think waste management is for dummies. It's assuredly not.

Also, as an employee in corporate America, I'm familiar with being short-staffed, and expected to reduce over time at the sametime. This is whimsical, and when it comes down to it...I simply don't get to tasks many times. When it comes to a city the size of new york and the importance of waste management to humans(whether they know it or not), it's a role that I would rather things weren't left undone.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Maybe we could place a ceiling on compensation across the board, both public sector and private sector, to below what a President is paid.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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Shrug, if he actually worked those hours and isn't trying to game the pension system then I don't have a problem with it.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Shrug, if he actually worked those hours and isn't trying to game the pension system then I don't have a problem with it.

Pretty much. Madoka just wants to shit on a guy and watch him clean it up for straight pay no matter what
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Considering this:
"positions require a state operator license and proficiency with high-voltage equipment — “an extraordinarily high skill set.”"
I find it appalling:
"Of the 207 stationary engineers, 99 clocked more than 400 hours of OT and 37 made $100,000 or more."

That 170 made less than $100,000.00 in NYC!

Don't worry, per madoka, fuck them sewer workers.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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I doubled my salary in OT in 2011. The money was nice, but it wasn't sustainable.

As long as it's not fraudulent and any gaming of the system is done within the rules, I say more power to him. Change the rules if you don't like the outcome, but don't fault people for maximizing the situation they find themselves in.

Viper GTS
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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I know this is a novel concept for you, but if you'd bother reading before commenting, even excluding the back pay which amounted to $67K, a sewer worker made more than the President of the United States.

If that doesn't strike you as ridiculous, then you've completely lost touch with reality.

What's ridiculous is that the position this guy holds has more required schooling and training than being the president. Any American citizen who lives long enough can become president if the voters can be convinced.

If we're going to start throwing out ridiculous statements comparing two completely different jobs, we might as well compare everything.
 
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PricklyPete

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Sep 17, 2002
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I’ve worked with plenty of executives who work much less and get payed significantly more.

So the guy worked his ass off and took advantage of the system that he found himself in. Sounds like a great employee.
 

Cozarkian

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Why is there so much overtime available?

It seems to me they either need to hire more workers or consider alternative work schedules to make sure they have employees working when they are needed.

If the problem is that there are too few qualified applicants for available positions, then what are they doing to address that issue? Have they spoken with schools to set up internship programs or to participate in career fairs that designed to encourage people to obtain the necessary training?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Why is there so much overtime available?

It seems to me they either need to hire more workers or consider alternative work schedules to make sure they have employees working when they are needed.

If the problem is that there are too few qualified applicants for available positions, then what are they doing to address that issue? Have they spoken with schools to set up internship programs or to participate in career fairs that designed to encourage people to obtain the necessary training?
Sometimes the math works out to pay the overtime long term. Only one healthcare premium instead of two, often overtime doesn't count toward pension so only one pension payment, etc.
 
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Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Wow that's nuts. Do that job for a couple years, buy a nice acreage property and live like a king.

I wonder what kind of long term health risks are associated with that kind of work though.

In San Francisco 2 years at that pay would barely get half a house in San Mateo.
 

Cozarkian

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Sometimes the math works out to pay the overtime long term. Only one healthcare premium instead of two, often overtime doesn't count toward pension so only one pension payment, etc.

Considering this guy worked almost as many overtime hours as he did regular hours, I highly doubt that is the case in this circumstance.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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That's insane, how do people even live in those places? Not everybody is lucky enough to land a 6 figure gig.
I've visited San Francisco few times and even just visiting there is a part of my brain screaming, "you can't afford to be here!"
 

Red Squirrel

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Maybe we could place a ceiling on compensation across the board, both public sector and private sector, to below what a President is paid.

TBH I'm surprised how "low" the president pay is. I guess the 400k is peanuts compared to all the money that he gets from lobbyists etc though. That's how politicians really make their money, lobbyists. The salary is just an official number to put on paper.
 
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