sex education

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Teach abstinence, but if you do, practice safe sex is contradictory?

Teach safe driving, but wear a seatbelt in case you get in a wreck.

Safe sex should be taught in school because many parents will never address it at home. While the value of abstinence as a health issue should be covered as well, abstinence as a moral issue should be discussed in the home.

Couldn't have said it better.

"Abstinence is the only 100% sure way to prevent pregnancy and STDs, but if you do have sex, use a condom." That could be sex-ed right there. With a little padding to keep kids' attention, that's it.

 

[Rainsford]

For those of you talking about why teenagers shouldn't be having sex, a lot of teenagers do and turn out just fine. Some people (especially girls) regret how their first time went, but that's life, you get over it.

 

[3chordcharlie]

I think the poll is a little flawed, as I've never even heard of a safe-sex education program that doesn't emphasize abstinence as the best recourse for you if you aren't emotionally ready for sex, or aren't willing to accept the risks inherent in having sex (which obviously need to be taught in a straightforward manner, without all osrts of hyperbole that is so common in discussions about sex and protection on this board).

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: dornick

Originally posted by: Forsythe
And it's not okay to have sex?

No, I don't think it's okay for kids younger than 18 to be screwing each other. It tends to do a lot more harm than good (See above).

and its illegal in most if not all states too...

Does the school have the moral right to push abstinence on students, tho?

Its not just a moral decision... its a legal one too... see above.

 

[Sunbird]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: dornick

Originally posted by: Forsythe
And it's not okay to have sex?

No, I don't think it's okay for kids younger than 18 to be screwing each other. It tends to do a lot more harm than good (See above).

and its illegal in most if not all states too...

Does the school have the moral right to push abstinence on students, tho?

Its not just a moral decision... its a legal one too... see above.

Just because somethings illegal doesn't make it wrong!

Here in South Africa it was illegal for black people to move around without a permit, or congegrate in groups in the bad old days, how was that NOT wrong?

 

[Trevelyan]

There isn't anything wrong with letting kids know the FACTS about sex... I don't have any objection to that.

Things that are, in my opinion, debatable are:

1) WHEN to teach them these facts (obviously some ages are TOO young)
2) Teaching the facts, without saying that having sex is OK or not (IE moral implications)

Honestly, STDs are a problem. It's a simple as that. In the school I went to we were taught all about condoms and STDs in the seventh grade. But really the parents most certainly have the MOST EFFECT on kids, and thats obvious. So something other than freakin classes in school needs to be done, because kids DO NOT take that stuff seriously.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: dornick

Originally posted by: Forsythe
And it's not okay to have sex?

No, I don't think it's okay for kids younger than 18 to be screwing each other. It tends to do a lot more harm than good (See above).

and its illegal in most if not all states too...
.

Um no. The laws vary from state to state but for the most part its illegal for legal adults to have sex with minors given a certain age difference.

 

[glorifiedg790]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: dornick

Originally posted by: BriGy86

i think thats why this is such a tough subject

i agree. the real problem is that the reason kids are going to have sex is not their education, but our society, where you see sex everywhere

I hate to break it to you guys, but 'kids' were having sex long before any concept of a society existed, and continued having sex as societies progressed, long before the concept of mass media that 'portrayed sex everywhere.' Just an FYI.

Yes but STD's were not a factor.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: dornick

Originally posted by: Forsythe
And it's not okay to have sex?

No, I don't think it's okay for kids younger than 18 to be screwing each other. It tends to do a lot more harm than good (See above).

why stop at 18?

 

[Taejin]

I see 0 votes for abstinence, and suddenly I'm wondering where Riprorin is..

 

[Sunbird]

Originally posted by: Taejin
I see 0 votes for abstinence, and suddenly I'm wondering where Riprorin is..

Maybe he is busy having sex?

 

[artikk]

Teach abstinence until marriage. STDs are prevented if either spouse was faithful before the marriage. The best solution from my point of view.

 

[Sunbird]

Originally posted by: russianpower
Teach abstinence until marriage. STDs are prevented if either spouse was faithful before the marriage. The best solution from my point of view.

Tell that to this guy I know that saved himself for marriage, and when he got there, she didn't like sex (now they are divorced).

 

[sao123]

teach them to masterbate... its the only way to promote abstinence.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: sao123
teach them to masterbate... its the only way to promote abstinence.

or beastiality, since cross-species stds haven't been documented.

 

[BriGy86]

Originally posted by: russianpower
Teach abstinence until marriage. STDs are prevented if either spouse was faithful before the marriage. The best solution from my point of view.

that would work great IF kids always did what older people told them to.

but un my experience and from what i've noticed, thats just not the case

 

[Sunbird]

Why do a lot of people (in news reports and over radio) call it bestiality, to me it seems like they rather like it (while from their reports they make it sound reprihensable), why else put the word best in there?

 

[BriGy86]

i think its beastiality

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: dornick

Originally posted by: aidanjm
Does the school have the moral right to push abstinence on students, tho?

No. Like I said, it's a dilemma

Does the school have a moral right push honesty?

Does the school have a moral right push not cheating on tests?

Does the school have a moral right push fairness?


Its not a dilemma at - the school does have a moral right to push things. I find it hard to consider abstinence solely a moral issue, considering the health issues involved.

Safe sex and adstinence are not mutally exclusive. Schools can and should teach both. Be honest with students on what works, against what, and how well. Learning about BC, and how to prevent STD's is important. On the flip side, teaching students on the consquences of sex is very important too, particularly emtional health. The fact you may end up doing things that you will regret later on. Being abstent now would be the best/safest choice.

 

[BriGy86]

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: dornick

Originally posted by: aidanjm
Does the school have the moral right to push abstinence on students, tho?

No. Like I said, it's a dilemma

Does the school have a moral right push honesty?

Does the school have a moral right push not cheating on tests?

Does the school have a moral right push fairness?


Its not a dilemma at - the school does have a moral right to push things. I find it hard to consider abstinence solely a moral issue, considering the health issues involved.

Safe sex and adstinence are not mutally exclusive. Schools can and should teach both. Be honest with students on what works, against what, and how well. Learning about BC, and how to prevent STD's is important. On the flip side, teaching students on the consquences of sex is very important too, particularly emtional health. The fact you may end up doing things that you will regret later on. Being abstent now would be the best/safest choice.

well put

 

[xirtam]

I don't see why they teach sex at all in schools without demonstrations and practice sessions. Of all the talk I heard in health class about sex, I didn't once get a chance to witness it firsthand. It was all cheesy videos and weird anatomically correct posters.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: xirtam
I don't see why they teach sex at all in schools without demonstrations and practice sessions. Of all the talk I heard in health class about sex, I didn't once get a chance to witness it firsthand. It was all cheesy videos and weird anatomically correct posters.

exactly. i was hoping for lab experience or something.

 

[SuperTool]

You don't teach abstinence, you preach abstinence.
The only think that schools can and should teach are the risks involved and methods to protect oneself.
Sex ed teaching abstinence is like driver ed teaching walking.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
You don't teach abstinence, you preach abstinence.

Well maybe if you tried teaching it would get better results, as opposed to preaching it.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: SuperTool
You don't teach abstinence, you preach abstinence.

Well maybe if you tried teaching it would get better results, as opposed to preaching it.

There is nothing to teach. Abstinence is not a skill. It's a decision.