Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: eits
neat... some more anti-hispanic propaganda. i'm sure this stuff NEVER happens to blacks, whites, asians, etc.
How does this become anti-hispanic propaganda? He might not be Mexican or Spanish. Just because some dude with the last name of Gomez get's his name in the news, does not make it an anti-hispanic issue.
If so, the headline might have read: Hispanic sex offender arrested with 15 year old in his bed. :roll:
the last name is gomez and it's a fox news piece... put 2 and 2 together.
Originally posted by: Amused
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: eits
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: compuwiz1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: eits
neat... some more anti-hispanic propaganda. i'm sure this stuff NEVER happens to blacks, whites, asians, etc.</end quote></div>
How does this become anti-hispanic propaganda? He might not be Mexican or Spanish. Just because some dude with the last name of Gomez get's his name in the news, does not make it an anti-hispanic issue.
If so, the headline might have read: Hispanic sex offender arrested with 15 year old in his bed. :roll:
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the last name is gomez and it's a fox news piece... put 2 and 2 together.</end quote></div>
:roll:
Congrats. You have taken a much coveted spot next to dmcowen674 in the Complete Fscking Idiot box.
Originally posted by: Nebor
Wait a second, police are allowed to just "check in" on registered sex offenders?
That's pretty much a slap in the face to the constitution. Punishing someone beyond their prison term (ya know, where they repay their debt to society) is wrong.
Originally posted by: FallenHero
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Nebor
Wait a second, police are allowed to just "check in" on registered sex offenders?
That's pretty much a slap in the face to the constitution. Punishing someone beyond their prison term (ya know, where they repay their debt to society) is wrong.</end quote></div>
He was still repaying his debt to society by being on probation. People on probation and parole have less rights than the rest of us. Its still a punishment by the courts. Constitutionally speaking, there is no problem here.
Originally posted by: Nebor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: FallenHero
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Nebor
Wait a second, police are allowed to just "check in" on registered sex offenders?
That's pretty much a slap in the face to the constitution. Punishing someone beyond their prison term (ya know, where they repay their debt to society) is wrong.</end quote></div>
He was still repaying his debt to society by being on probation. People on probation and parole have less rights than the rest of us. Its still a punishment by the courts. Constitutionally speaking, there is no problem here.</end></div>
Umm... as far as I know, sex offender registration is for life. And that seems pretty wrong to be. Continuing punishment.
IMO every free man should have the same rights as the next. If you don't trust him with all his rights, you shouldn't let him out of prison.
Originally posted by: Triumph
Now if he had gotten out of prison, and THEN the courts said, "Oh yeah, and we decided to tack on another 100 years of probation," then that would be wrong and would be considered double jeopardy. But nothing wrong here with lifelong probation for a sex offender.
Originally posted by: Nebor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Triumph
Now if he had gotten out of prison, and THEN the courts said, "Oh yeah, and we decided to tack on another 100 years of probation," then that would be wrong and would be considered double jeopardy. But nothing wrong here with lifelong probation for a sex offender.</end quote></div>
Yes, I'm saying that every free man should be just as free as the next. Don't let them out of prison if you don't trust them to be party of society like everyone else. Lifelong probation is wrong on so many levels. That's a lifetime of persecution they're being put through.
Once someone has done their time, they should be free just like anyone else. Free to not be hassled by the police, free to get any job they want, free to purchase firearms, FREE.
Originally posted by: Jeff7
He answered the door naked? No, there's absolutely nothing odd about a registered sex offender doing that.
Your logic works quite well, until one of these whack jobs kills, rapes, and dismembers someone, maybe this time it will be one of your next of kin, or perhaps your own daughter or son. It's been proven over and over, through time, through generations......these people are not curable. Please do not sympathize with them. Their disease causes them to progress into more violent crimes as time goes on. This week he may only fondle. Next week, he gropes. Next week he rapes. Next week he kills. See the patern?
Originally posted by: Nebor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Triumph
Now if he had gotten out of prison, and THEN the courts said, "Oh yeah, and we decided to tack on another 100 years of probation," then that would be wrong and would be considered double jeopardy. But nothing wrong here with lifelong probation for a sex offender.</end quote></div>
Yes, I'm saying that every free man should be just as free as the next. Don't let them out of prison if you don't trust them to be party of society like everyone else. Lifelong probation is wrong on so many levels. That's a lifetime of persecution they're being put through.
Once someone has done their time, they should be free just like anyone else. Free to not be hassled by the police, free to get any job they want, free to purchase firearms, FREE.
Originally posted by: Rogodin2
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Your logic works quite well, until one of these whack jobs kills, rapes, and dismembers someone, maybe this time it will be one of your next of kin, or perhaps your own daughter or son. It's been proven over and over, through time, through generations......these people are not curable. Please do not sympathize with them. Their disease causes them to progress into more violent crimes as time goes on. This week he may only fondle. Next week, he gropes. Next week he rapes. Next week he kills. See the patern? </end quote></div>
compuwiz1, that the most amazing power of deduction I've yet seen on these forums!
You're a natural replacement for Albert
Do you really believe what you typed?
Rogo
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Your logic works quite well, until one of these whack jobs kills, rapes, and dismembers someone, maybe this time it will be one of your next of kin, or perhaps your own daughter or son. It's been proven over and over, through time, through generations......these people are not curable. Please do not sympathize with them. Their disease causes them to progress into more violent crimes as time goes on. This week he may only fondle. Next week, he gropes. Next week he rapes. Next week he kills. See the patern? :|
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Nebor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Triumph
Now if he had gotten out of prison, and THEN the courts said, "Oh yeah, and we decided to tack on another 100 years of probation," then that would be wrong and would be considered double jeopardy. But nothing wrong here with lifelong probation for a sex offender.</end quote></div>
Yes, I'm saying that every free man should be just as free as the next. Don't let them out of prison if you don't trust them to be party of society like everyone else. Lifelong probation is wrong on so many levels. That's a lifetime of persecution they're being put through.
Once someone has done their time, they should be free just like anyone else. Free to not be hassled by the police, free to get any job they want, free to purchase firearms, FREE.</end></div>
I agree 100%. Probation is costly and is the main reason criminals keep going back to jail and flooding our prisons/jails.
Originally posted by: Triumph
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BlancoNino
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Nebor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Triumph
Now if he had gotten out of prison, and THEN the courts said, "Oh yeah, and we decided to tack on another 100 years of probation," then that would be wrong and would be considered double jeopardy. But nothing wrong here with lifelong probation for a sex offender.</end quote></div>
Yes, I'm saying that every free man should be just as free as the next. Don't let them out of prison if you don't trust them to be party of society like everyone else. Lifelong probation is wrong on so many levels. That's a lifetime of persecution they're being put through.
Once someone has done their time, they should be free just like anyone else. Free to not be hassled by the police, free to get any job they want, free to purchase firearms, FREE.</end></div>
I agree 100%. Probation is costly and is the main reason criminals keep going back to jail and flooding our prisons/jails.</end quote></div>
What you just said doesn't make any sense. If everyone who committed a crime got a life sentence, the jails would be MORE flooded than if everyone got probation, and some percentage of those went back to jail.
How does being on probation cause someone to go back to jail?
How is being on probation more costly than supporting someone with 3 meals a day, clothing, housing, facilities, showers, beds, 24/7 guard duty, etc.?
Originally posted by: TallBill
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Your logic works quite well, until one of these whack jobs kills, rapes, and dismembers someone, maybe this time it will be one of your next of kin, or perhaps your own daughter or son. It's been proven over and over, through time, through generations......these people are not curable. Please do not sympathize with them. Their disease causes them to progress into more violent crimes as time goes on. This week he may only fondle. Next week, he gropes. Next week he rapes. Next week he kills. See the patern? :|
</end quote></div>
lol, you just argued Nebor's point. Probation aint gonna stop them, so if they really are still a danger to society why are the out and about? And if they are out and about, why bother with probation?
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Nebor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Triumph
Now if he had gotten out of prison, and THEN the courts said, "Oh yeah, and we decided to tack on another 100 years of probation," then that would be wrong and would be considered double jeopardy. But nothing wrong here with lifelong probation for a sex offender.</end quote></div>
Yes, I'm saying that every free man should be just as free as the next. Don't let them out of prison if you don't trust them to be party of society like everyone else. Lifelong probation is wrong on so many levels. That's a lifetime of persecution they're being put through.
Once someone has done their time, they should be free just like anyone else. Free to not be hassled by the police, free to get any job they want, free to purchase firearms, FREE.</end></div>
I agree 100%. Probation is costly and is the main reason criminals keep going back to jail and flooding our prisons/jails.
What you just said doesn't make any sense. If everyone who committed a crime got a life sentence, the jails would be MORE flooded than if everyone got probation, and some percentage of those went back to jail.
How does being on probation cause someone to go back to jail?
How is being on probation more costly than supporting someone with 3 meals a day, clothing, housing, facilities, showers, beds, 24/7 guard duty, etc.?