Shaq---skilled or just BIG ? Could he do it WITHOUT the size ?

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Robert01

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It isn't just Shaq, the Lakers squad does have some talent (I'm painfully admitting this). C'mon, did the Magics ever win a championship?

<< And Shaq is to blame for this? >>

For his weight, yes.

<< If Garnett/David Robinson/Duncan/and players of that type were to balloon up to 330 lb., the only basketball they'd play is in the wheelchair games, or at best they'd play for 5 minutes standing under the hoop before dying of exhaustion. >>

You can't be serious, that's pushing it buddy.
 

GoldenBear

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<< You can't be serious, that's pushing it buddy. >>

I'm serious about Shaq being one of the most dedicated and hardest workers in the NBA, and he has two rings to show for it.
 

Robert01

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<< I'm serious about Shaq being one of the most dedicated and hardest workers in the NBA, and he has two rings to show for it. >>

What, he did it all by himself? The Lakers wouldn't know what they are doing if it wasn't for Phil Jackson and his buddies. Besides being dedicated, he's also one of the most ego-centric players around.
 

Pacfanweb

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He is nothing but big. There is nobody anywhere near his size/build. If he was 6'7&quot; with the exact same talent level, he wouldn't even start for a high school team.

I am 6'4&quot;, average hoops player, and if I could keep my exact same skill level and suddenly grow to Shaq's size, I would beat him like a drum.

 

arod

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He does have an advantage over all the centers in the NBA but he does work hard to get as close to the basket as he does
 

Pacfanweb

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<<If you were playing against a bunch of guys 2-3&quot; shorter and 40-50lb. lighter, size alone would not allow you to dominate.>>
Wrong. I do it to my friends all the time. They pass me the ball near the basket, and I simply back them up until I feel like shooting. Remember, Shaq does this to other centers, not other guards and fowards...the little guys would pick his pocket, or he'd shoot over them(if he could actually shoot).

<<And I'd be willing to make that bet. I'll find you some 300lb. guys, or, I can show you that they're NOT in the NBA, and Shaq is among the few guys that are. >>

It isn't just Shaq's SIZE, it's his BUILD. Yes, there are plenty of fat 300 lb guys around,(very few that are 7'1&quot; though), but NOBODY in the NBA is Shaq's overall size AND build. No, you couldn't bulk Garnett or Robinson up and have them hang with Shaq because they're not built that way, their frames wouldn't support that weight.
On the other hand, if you took someone else with Shaq's build and gave them Garnett's or Robinson's talent and skills, you'd have the best player in the history of the sport, someone who'd average 50pts a game easily.
Kind of like Wilt Chamberlain, but a bit bigger.
 

syzygy

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shaq has awesome raw power and incredible agility. while his talent is tremendous,
he's also blessed in the genetics department too.
 

dafatha00

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Shaq has a lot of skill. Of course being big is definitely an advantage for him but he's extremely quick and knows how to handle the ball. Awesome passer.
 

Einz

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shaq sucks. he cant make free throws worth beans. only reason he's any good is because he can overpower people.
 

tkim

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the size is what makes him great. the ability to move that size the way he does makes him great. if there were another guy his size, do you think that they would do as well as him? i think not.
 

IamDavid

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He is only good because of his size. When was the last time he hit back to back shots from a few feet away from the rim.
 

Warblad13

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<< There are many guys just as big, and even bigger than Shaq that are nothing when it comes to basketball. Shaq may have had a *slightly* easier time than other guys not quite as big as him in getting to the NBA, but that's hardly something you can hold against him. The hard work and ethic he had to put into dominating the sport as he has is something to be really admired. >>



where u get &quot;many guys just as big&quot; i wonder what is many to u. cause i dont know many people his size
 

tkim

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GOLDENBEAR, i agree with you.

his size is the whole point!!

if you had a smart guy and he used his intelligence to his advantage, would you talk sh!t?

if some girl was fine as hell and she used it to become a top model, would you talk sh!t?

shaq's advantage is his size. imo, he has other skills too. but the point is, you must use what you have to your advantage.
 

crypticlogin

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He does get away with a little more elbowing than other average sized guys, but is that &quot;fair?&quot; I can understand the all star getting a call in their favor if the play is debateable, but just from watching the finals, it's obvious he gets away with much, much more than he should.

And for the record, I don't favor any basketball team.
 

StormRider

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Why are you asking US this question? Wouldn't it be better if you actually asked the girls that Shaq has slept with? And why would you be interested in such a thing?
 

tigerbait

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Golden Bear is right.


You people cannot possibly say that Shaq has no skill. Sure size makes a difference...for example, I was a great offensive lineman in high school, and my pass blocking technique is great, but I'm 5'10&quot; and Willie Roaf is 6'6&quot;+...thats part of what makes them professional athletes. Shaq's build seems to be disadvantage. Since no one else can compete with him, the officials have to make calls to even it out. Yet Shaq still dominates. There are lots of 7 footers in the NBA. There is the best defensive player in the league, who is 7'2&quot;. Shaq owned him. His agility, his awareness, his passing... he is simply the most dominant player in basketball.
 

Mday

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if you look at the way he plays, and studies his skills, he is still a good player.

what makes him dangerous is his penetration which can't be done if he was not as big as he is.

he has some perimeter skilz and quickness.
 

dethman

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shaq has some basic moves, nice agility, and decent/good footwork, and that combined with his size and desire make him unstoppable. he does have some talent.

there were guys as big as him in the NBA...

stanley roberts (formerly of clippers, some other teams) was 7 feet and over 300 pounds...i wonder where that guy is now? now THERE'S a giant with no talent whatsoever.
 
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