sharkyextreme is so full of it

[Wingznut]

I'm not saying that one platform is more stable than the other. Nor am I saying that one is easier to setup than the other.

I was just giving an example of why it's perceived that Intel is more reliable.

Also to point out that "they don't know how to set up a PC" isn't really a good answer, since you have no idea how competant the person in question is.

 

[PCResources]

<< On what basis you are reasoning that I or for the matter of fact my friends dont know how to install systems >>



Well, you could not get your AMD systems to be stable ones... I have never had a problem with that, so obviously you do not know the basics about it, or maybe you just went for the cheapest components or whatever...

It takes some time to set up a system properly, first of all, get the components that are tried and true together, that is the most important thing...

The actual build of the computer is pretty much like building lego, you have the building blocks, there is only one way they will fit, you cannot to it the wrong way... BUT then you have the drivers, the bios upgrades and so on and so forth... however, choosing the correct components is vital to any systems stability, both AMD and Intel...

As i have designed systems with AMD CPU's for a long time now, and had no problems with stability i think that i can make that statement...

I think you might find it useful to PM me about your problems, and maybe i could sort them out for you...

Patrick Palm

PC Resources

 

[PCResources]

<< Also to point out that &quot;they don't know how to set up a PC&quot; isn't really a good answer, since you have no idea how competant the person in question is. >>



Well, their competence is clearly shown as they have those kinds of problems, there is more to setting up a PC system than just to put the parts together and install the OS...

First of all, you have to know which components to use, the ones that work well together and then there are the driver and BIOS updates issues..

If i can build thousands of stable Athlon systems, why can't they? Some of the issues might depend on faulty HW, but AMD CPU's are not second to Intel in this matter, now are they...

You seem to be unbiased, but you keep defending Intel, i do not find this very surprising as you do work for them, but you still havent answered my question about the recalled Intel CPU's and the faulty Intel motherboards, and the lack of faulty AMD CPU's and mobos...

Patrick Palm

PC Resources

 

[nortexoid]

yeah, i agree...i spit on anandtech forum posters/readers...oops, i meant sharky's audience of disconsolate christian fundamentalists...etc. etc.

his reviews suck too...so...

 

[PCResources]

<< Also to point out that &quot;they don't know how to set up a PC&quot; isn't really a good answer, since you have no idea how competant the person in question is. >>



Well, their competence is clearly shown as they have those kinds of problems, there is more to setting up a PC system than just to put the parts together and install the OS...

First of all, you have to know which components to use, the ones that work well together and then there are the driver and BIOS updates issues..

If i can build thousands of stable Athlon systems, why can't they? Some of the issues might depend on faulty HW, but AMD CPU's are not second to Intel in this matter, now are they...

You seem to be unbiased, but you keep defending Intel, i do not find this very surprising as you do work for them, but you still havent answered my question about the recalled Intel CPU's and the faulty Intel motherboards, and the lack of faulty AMD CPU's and mobos...

Patrick Palm

PC Resources

 

[Wingznut]

Ok, I'll go ahead and repeat myself...

I'm not saying that one brand is more compatible/stable/*whatever* than the other. I'm just pointing out the reason that I believe people think that Intel is more compatible.

&quot;WingZNut, what do you have to say about all of those factory built computers using the P4 that have been recalled because of instability issues... And why on earth was the rock stable PIII 1.13Ghz ever recalled? Did Intel launch an unstable CPU?&quot;

I apologize for not answering you, but I generally don't make a habit out of replying to unprovoked/hostile rhetorical questions like that. Nonetheless, what do you expect me to say? Those incidents happened.

 

[PCResources]

<< I apologize for not answering you, but I generally don't make a habit out of replying to unprovoked/hostile rhetorical questions like that. >>



Unprovoked/hostile rethorical question???? Why? I was just trying to make a point...

You try to get around stating your own opinions by stating what you believe others think... Why?

If you would just state that you think that Intel is the more stable brand, then you would probably get more positive responses from me, but as you do not state anything yourself, you will never have to explain why you think so, and so you can get away with your remarks...

If most people here think that Intel CPU's are more stable, then let them make that statement, you do not have to do it for them...

This is not a flame, it's just some thoughts...

Patrick Palm

PC Resources

 

[Sunner]

fkloster, I was drinking loads and loads of beer, its called a weekend

Anyway, I didnt mean EXACTLY 6 months, but rather something along those lines.

A little quote from Ace's:


<< Some of the extra 55 pins (Northwood = 478, Willamette = 423) pins seem to be used for SMP capabilities >>



[edit]Remember, they did it with the original P5.[/edit]

 

[visceral]

Last xmas i bought the following:
Duron 800
CWT-300W PSU
MSI K7T-PRO-2
x1 256mb CAS-3 PC-133 generic RAM
Coolermaster 4500RPM HSF

And i already had the following:
Geforce 256 SDR
SB Live
Netgear 10/100Mb NIC

After a 3 hours of carefully putting it together and getting it operational (inc windoze) i had NO problems whatsoever. Couple months later i STILL have NO problems whatsoever! I can run it all weekend without no need to reboot, Opengl/Direct3D games run for hours on end without fail, i have the Geforce clocked @ 150/195 and it does not effect stability, AGP is at 4X, SBA enabled, latest VIA drivers and the occasional bios upgrades that MSI keep posting up just in case they help.

Now if some of you think AMD setups are shaite, unstable, incompatible, you obviously must be doing some wrong! Of course AMD setups CAN be imcompatible if you are talking about very expensive music software such as Gigasampler, but then if you can afford them, i'm sure you have a P4 or two

 

[evanichka]

Bah, so SE is biased up the yin yang, but that's it, no reason to get hostile over the subject... This could be a good thread for the newbies that live in the dark, but other than that, it's just another thread with lotsa name-calling and bashing.