Sharp-Dressed Man! $99 suits at Amazon.com

[Cattlegod]

I have about a 46" chest and 32-34" waist. Can I modify the pants to get them to fit, or is taking a 40" pant down 8 more inches not really possible?

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I have about a 46" chest and 32-34" waist. Can I modify the pants to get them to fit, or is taking a 40" pant down 8 more inches not really possible?

You need separates.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: s44

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I have about a 46" chest and 32-34" waist. Can I modify the pants to get them to fit, or is taking a 40" pant down 8 more inches not really possible?

You need separates.

srsly. you can take a couple inches out of pants, tops.

anyone else gotten any of these? i dont even have a suit so one for cheap, if its decent, might be worth having

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: xSauronx

Originally posted by: s44

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I have about a 46" chest and 32-34" waist. Can I modify the pants to get them to fit, or is taking a 40" pant down 8 more inches not really possible?

You need separates.

srsly. you can take a couple inches out of pants, tops.

anyone else gotten any of these? i dont even have a suit so one for cheap, if its decent, might be worth having

I purchased 3 of their suits several months back and have been very pleased with all of them. They're definitely worth much more than the $99 you pay for them.

 

[swanysto]

Can anyone tell me how these are shipped? I am wondering cause I will be shipping them to my office, and I don't want them to come in garment bags or anything weird.

 

[Oceanguy]

The sizing chart and instructions are kind of confusing. Who does one figure out whether a suite is regular, short, or long? Plus if one measures by the instructions, the chest size is the suite size. The six inch drop then means that say a chest size is 50 then the waist size will be 44. So does one just order a chest size of 52 for 46" waist?

Thanks.

 

[Oceanguy]

"wonder how much it would cost to get them altered"


I bought a suit last year and had it altered. It cost around $70 for the alterations. I am not sure if this helps.

 

[TinMan2]

Swanysto,
They are shipped in a discreet brown box by way of UPS.

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: Oceanguy
The sizing chart and instructions are kind of confusing. Who does one figure out whether a suite is regular, short, or long? Plus if one measures by the instructions, the chest size is the suite size. The six inch drop then means that say a chest size is 50 then the waist size will be 44. So does one just order a chest size of 52 for 46" waist?

No, you go by chest size, as you originally said. It's easier to let out pants a bit than to change the shoulders and chest at all. That said, someone with a 4" drop may have fit issues with standard-cut suits. The "portly" cut is based on a 4" drop or less.

The Short/Long/Regular is the letter after the suit size number. So you have, say, 40S, 40L, and 40R.

 

[imported_smartadze]

Originally posted by: Oceanguy
The sizing chart and instructions are kind of confusing. Who does one figure out whether a suite is regular, short, or long? Plus if one measures by the instructions, the chest size is the suite size. The six inch drop then means that say a chest size is 50 then the waist size will be 44. So does one just order a chest size of 52 for 46" waist?

By far the easiest way is to drop into a suit store and try a few different sizes. The measurement system is based on Chest size, but determing the jacket 'Length' (Short, Regular, or Long) depends on your torso and sleeve length. See chart below for 'Regular"; Short is 1" smaller (torso and sleeve) and "Long" is 1" longer.

Essential jacket measurements
? Chest : Place the measuring tape high under your arms at the widest point, covering your chest and your shoulder blades. The tape should be completely level. As you breathe normally, have a friend insert a finger between your chest and the measuring tape. This suit measurement yields both your chest and suit size.
? Shoulder : Have a friend measure across the top, back, of your shoulders. For this suit measurement, the measuring tape should extend seam to seam.
? Jacket length : This suit measurement determines the ideal length from the bottom of the collar to the bottom of the jacket. Measure from where your neck meets your back to a point just below the curve of your buttocks
? Sleeve length : In this suit measurement, determine your sleeve length by measuring from the shoulder to a point that just covers the wrist.

Essential pants measurements
? Waist : Most suits will have a six-inch drop between the size of the jacket and the waist of the slacks, with an allowance of 1.5 to 2 inches available for letting out. Take this suit measurement with the tape comfortably loose, the tape encircling your natural waistline.
? Length : To measure your trouser length, find a pair of slacks that fit well. Measure the outside seam length from the top of the waist to the bottom of the leg; this is your outseam length. Measure from the crotch to the bottom of the pant; this is the inseam length.

Suit Size: 38R 40R 42R 44R 46R 48R 50R
Chest: 40" 42" 44" 46" 48" 50" 52"
Shoulder: 18" 18.5" 19" 19.5" 20" 20.25" 20.5"
Length: 30.5" 31" 31" 31" 31.5" 31.5" 31.75"
Sleeve: 24.5" 25" 25" 25.25" 25.25" 25.25" 25.5"
Waist Size: 32" 34" 36" 38" 40" 42" 44"

"Short" is 1" smaller (length and sleeve); "Long" is 1" longer

? Chest - Measured under the arms
? Shoulder - Top of shoulder across back, seam to seam
? Length - Bottom of collar to bottom of jacket
? Sleeve - Top of shoulder sleeve to end of seam

 

[zerogear]

For some reason I keep reading the ops topic as Cross-Dressed Man!

 

[szechuanpork]

pants are lined to just below knee? can anyone comment on this fact? i don't think i can wear pants that are lined to just below the knee. it is a weird feeling when all your other pants, dress to casual, don't have lining. this sucks, i had two of these in my cart and i was just ready to pull the trigger when i saw that the pants were lined.

apart from the lined pants, great deal.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: szechuanpork
pants are lined to just below knee? can anyone comment on this fact? i don't think i can wear pants that are lined to just below the knee. it is a weird feeling when all your other pants, dress to casual, don't have lining. this sucks, i had two of these in my cart and i was just ready to pull the trigger when i saw that the pants were lined.

apart from the lined pants, great deal.

I think most of my suits (none from Amazon) are lined to the knee. Honestly, it's not something that I notice but I do wear suits every day.

 

[szechuanpork]

Originally posted by: RKS

Originally posted by: szechuanpork
pants are lined to just below knee? can anyone comment on this fact? i don't think i can wear pants that are lined to just below the knee. it is a weird feeling when all your other pants, dress to casual, don't have lining. this sucks, i had two of these in my cart and i was just ready to pull the trigger when i saw that the pants were lined.

apart from the lined pants, great deal.

I think most of my suits (none from Amazon) are lined to the knee. Honestly, it's not something that I notice but I do wear suits every day.

what the heck lined or no i'm getting some.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Oceanguy
"wonder how much it would cost to get them altered"


I bought a suit last year and had it altered. It cost around $70 for the alterations. I am not sure if this helps.

Was this jacket and pants?

 

[chexi]

You want your pants lined as much and far as possible. It does not feel weird. What it feels is not hot and sticky like wool will feel when it is not lined.

 

[franke3c]

what does it mean "pants lined to knee"?

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: franke3c
what does it mean "pants lined to knee"?

it means there is a thin lining inside the pants that extends to the knee.

 

[LegendKiller]

Not to thread crap, but comparing one of these suits to a $1,400 suit is just silly. First off, you can't even find quality fabric that is well made and durable at $99, let alone quality craftsmanship to put it together. Sweat shop labor in SE Asia may be able to slap together a suit, but it won't do it all that well. 140s? ROFL. The suit all credibility when they make such comparisons, as does the fact that it lists MSRP at $1,500.

sure, compare it to a $200 Mens Warehouse jobber and probably superior to any crap that JAB puts out, but that's it. For $99 you can't beat getting 50% off a suit like that, however, any comparisons to anything higher than that is misleading.

 

[TinMan2]

Not to thread crap your thread crap, but have you bought or at least personally examined one of these suits?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: TinMan2
Not to thread crap your thread crap, but have you bought or at least personally examined one of these suits?

I don't need to, the logic just doesn't add up. It is laughable to think you can get a nice 140s for $99, it is just a stupid assertion. If it were true you'd not have places charging 2k+ for them. I've seen many of these types of personally tailored stuff made out of Asia, usually listed in the WSJ, showcasing in NYC, and all of it is not as good as advertised.

It is also just simple logic, if you could get the same quality for that price, then the price of the higher priced stuff would drop automatically.

If you look in any fashion forums (I am not a huge fashion guy myself, but I do own several BB golden fleece suits), they'll say about the same thing about these types of "deals". good on paper, bad in practice.

 

[szechuanpork]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: TinMan2
Not to thread crap your thread crap, but have you bought or at least personally examined one of these suits?

I don't need to, the logic just doesn't add up. It is laughable to think you can get a nice 140s for $99, it is just a stupid assertion. If it were true you'd not have places charging 2k+ for them. I've seen many of these types of personally tailored stuff made out of Asia, usually listed in the WSJ, showcasing in NYC, and all of it is not as good as advertised.

It is also just simple logic, if you could get the same quality for that price, then the price of the higher priced stuff would drop automatically.

If you look in any fashion forums (I am not a huge fashion guy myself, but I do own several BB golden fleece suits), they'll say about the same thing about these types of "deals". good on paper, bad in practice.

1) Suit A is 140s and $99
2) nice 140s suits are never $99

therefore, 3) Suit A is not nice

is 2) true? legendkiller believes 2) is true because he never has come across a 140s suit for so cheap. several people have commented already that their suits were in fact "nice" and were happy with their suits. this argument is not sound.

let's try to strengthen your argument legendkiller,

1) Suit A is 140s and $99
2) 140s suits are never $99

therefore, 3) Suit A is not a 140s suit

i think we can verify the quality of these suits. if we can confirm that these suits are in fact 140s then 2) would be false making 3) false. i don't think anyone was making "stupid assertions".

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: szechuanpork

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: TinMan2
Not to thread crap your thread crap, but have you bought or at least personally examined one of these suits?

I don't need to, the logic just doesn't add up. It is laughable to think you can get a nice 140s for $99, it is just a stupid assertion. If it were true you'd not have places charging 2k+ for them. I've seen many of these types of personally tailored stuff made out of Asia, usually listed in the WSJ, showcasing in NYC, and all of it is not as good as advertised.

It is also just simple logic, if you could get the same quality for that price, then the price of the higher priced stuff would drop automatically.

If you look in any fashion forums (I am not a huge fashion guy myself, but I do own several BB golden fleece suits), they'll say about the same thing about these types of "deals". good on paper, bad in practice.

1) Suit A is 140s and $99
2) nice 140s suits are never $99

therefore, 3) Suit A is not nice

is 2) true? legendkiller believes 2) is true because he never has come across a 140s suit for so cheap. several people have commented already that their suits were in fact "nice" and were happy with their suits. this argument is not sound.

let's try to strengthen your argument legendkiller,

1) Suit A is 140s and $99
2) 140s suits are never $99

therefore, 3) Suit A is not a 140s suit

i think we can verify the quality of these suits. if we can confirm that these suits are in fact 140s then 2) would be false making 3) false. i don't think anyone was making "stupid assertions".

I wouldn't doubt they are "nice", but nice compared to a well made $1,400 suit? hardly. Nice compared to a $200 MW suit, sure. Not to mention that 140s can be very subjective.

There's no fucking way that one of these suits would be anywhere close to a BB 1818 Madison (110s or 120s) let alone a Golden Fleece.

You're asking people on this board about what is "nice". That's highly questionable in and of itself.

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Not to mention that 140s can be very subjective.

Dead wrong. The S number is quite specifically defined and it's against federal law to fudge it.

I wouldn't necessarily compare this to a "real" $1500 suit (and yes, I'm more than a little familiar with these) -- it's more like the $900 suit you can get for $200 on deep clearance at Syms or the Saks outlet.

How they get that down to $100 I'm not sure, but you can't fake things like fabric and working sleeve buttons (very nice touch).

The comparison to Brooks is just silly. They're not even supposed to look anything alike: one is Italian, more (and differently) shaped and with less conventional shades and patterns (though these aren't really out there in that respect); the other old-school American, loose (though the Golden Fleece line is a bit more continentalized in cut) and traditional. But fabric is fabric. Incidentally, stop into a Brooks outlet sometime to see how much markup goes into *their* retail stuff.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually bought one. I suppose I'll at some point break down and snag the gray peak-lapel though.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: s44

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Not to mention that 140s can be very subjective.

Dead wrong. The S number is quite specifically defined and it's against federal law to fudge it.

I wouldn't necessarily compare this to a "real" $1500 suit (and yes, I'm more than a little familiar with these) -- it's more like the $900 suit you can get for $200 on deep clearance at Syms or the Saks outlet.

How they get that down to $100 I'm not sure, but you can't fake things like fabric and working sleeve buttons (very nice touch).

The comparison to Brooks is just silly. They're not even supposed to look anything alike: one is Italian, more (and differently) shaped and with less conventional shades and patterns (though these aren't really out there in that respect); the other old-school American, loose (though the Golden Fleece line is a bit more continentalized in cut) and traditional. But fabric is fabric. Incidentally, stop into a Brooks outlet sometime to see how much markup goes into *their* retail stuff.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually bought one. I suppose I'll at some point break down and snag the gray peak-lapel though.

It's against Federal Law to fudge lead paint measurements, yet, somehow, it gets done. It's against Federal Law to sell counterfeit purses in the US, but eBay still has them. Anything can be done to circumvent Federal Law, so tossing that around wins you no points at all.


http://www.askandyaboutclothes...showthread.php?t=68831

A $900 suit? Sure buddy, this isn't even going to come close.

Have I even touched on styling? I have maintained the quality of the fabric and tailoring, not styling, so nice try at a strawman.

If you knew anything at all about Brooks you'd know that the outlet doesn't even carry the same clothes as the regular stores. The 346 line not only uses different fabric, but also different cuts. I can tell quite easily the difference between a 346 Madison and an 1818 Madison, or a 346 non-iron and a 1818 non-iron. Not to mention the "cut" of the Goldenfleece isn't all that different from their 1818 Madison line. The different cuts come into play in the different naming conventions, such as the Fitzgerald, Regent, and others.