She will be missed....our '02 Blazer w/249K on her, sorta died yesterday

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CptCrunch

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sticking to his guns FTL. Once the rear main started leaking bad, that engine was toast anyway you look at it. Metal was already everywhere from the failed rear main. Like I said, the OP was spot-on for limping it back from enemy territory.

I'd have to agree and do the same thing. ONce the main rear goes, its rebuild/rebuilt time. Might as well drive it home and even if you get 2/3rd there, you just cut your tow bill by 2/3rd
 

BUTCH1

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I'd have to agree and do the same thing. ONce the main rear goes, its rebuild/rebuilt time. Might as well drive it home and even if you get 2/3rd there, you just cut your tow bill by 2/3rd

Depends, 249K is prolly rebuild time on that alone. All the rear main seal does is keep oil from escaping from around the the crankshaft exit, problem is to change it you've got to drop the tranny. I had an old Cutlass with a bad rear main seal, drove it for almost 2 years like that, thing is the oil has to be checked and topped off at least a couple times a week, starving any engine (specially one with 250K) of oil is a bad thing..
 

bruceb

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First, when you initially heard the noise, you should have considered what it really was. Keeping the oil topped up, may have averted the problem. Second, the 4.3 while ok, was not really meant for heavy towing. If the trans and rear axle are ok, drop a motor into it for another 4 years of use.
 

Meghan54

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First, when you initially heard the noise, you should have considered what it really was. Keeping the oil topped up, may have averted the problem. Second, the 4.3 while ok, was not really meant for heavy towing. If the trans and rear axle are ok, drop a motor into it for another 4 years of use.


First, you make a lot of assumptions in that post.

The bearing noise was first noticed as I drove into our old home in GA. I was there to load up one of our trailers with odds and ends we'd left/couldn't fit in the first moving trip we made to Cape Cod, MA. I'm 1200 miles from our new home and really had no alternative but to use the vehicle.

Second, until the rear main seal died, the bearing noise seemed to emanate from the front of the engine where the accessories (alternator, water pump, A/C compressor, serpentine belt tensioner---what I thought was the real culprit of the noise--etc.) And I could have handled any failure of any component driven by the serpentine belt during the trip up to MA....would have been darned inconvenient, but not a major problem.

Third, the oil level in that truck was never in its entire life lower than a 1/2 qt. low. I am very attentive to fluid levels, state of condition of fluids, etc. I'm one of the probable few who actually checks air pressures more often than once a month....and have never had my tire air pressures more than 3-4psi down from what I run the tires. So, no amount of "should have kept the oil level correct" would have prevented the incident. The oil level was damned near perfect...and had just been changed less than 2500 miles before it blew the rear main seal out....and was always filled with synthetic, this time Pennzoil Ultimate. (It's not that I'm a maintenance freak or anything, but if you want something to last, esp. when really using it, then you have to do the maintenance, which I did. The rear end and trans both also have synthetics as lubes, I never skimped on quality of any parts that went into/onto the truck.)

Fourth, hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of GM truck and car owners would disagree with your assessment that the 4.3L V-6 found in GM products over the decades is lacking in towing ability. Our Blazer has a towing capacity rating of 5200#, and while we never approached that weight with a towed trailer, we did consistently tow 3000# and a little more every year, multiple times a year, for the truck's entire life and never found that engine lacking in power to pull that sort of load, including pulling through/over the Appalachian mountains for a couple of years.

I'd even put the durability of that 4.3 V-6 up there with some other notably durable engines of old, like Chrysler's 225 Slant Six or the 318 V-8 family, for instance. We never found that little 4.3 V-6 lacking in any department while we owned it and would gladly buy another vehicle with the same engine without hesitation....if GM still produced it.



Now, the question of whether to repair or replace is really more involved than just the engine. With its age and mileage, other items need looking at if not replacing, too. The steering was getting a little sloppy and before this happened, I was looking into getting all the tie rod ends replaced in a couple of months ($50/per for the parts) and probably the ball joints, also. (Was more looking into just buying complete new control arms with new ball joints and bushings already installed...$100/per arm.)

So, I'd be at $600 for front end replacement parts, without installation costs.

The driver's seat's bottom cushion was becoming worn out....not surprising given its age and mileage. Was becoming a little "flat" and unsupportive compared to newer seats and even the passenger seat in the truck. So, would need to find a way to get either a replacement seat or replace the foam cushion in the old seat. Not horrible expensive, but again not cheap.


And we'd already been talking about buying a new SUV. And since this has happened, it's kind of forced our hand. Spend thousands replacing the engine and doing the repairs I know it needs, or spend admittedly 4X as much on a new SUV with the same towing rating, something like the GMC Acadia/Chevy Traverse.


Personally, I'm leaning towards new or 1-2 year old vs. fixing the Blazer. She was stout, but honestly since we're in this position, I'll admit I'm just bored with her. After almost 10 years of driving it, something newer is more my taste today in vehicles.
 

bruceb

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You are correct in that some assumptions were made. I will concede your checking the oil level and it should have been done at each fill up when towing. But personally, I would never use the 4.3 V6 for a heavy long tow. For jobs like that a V8 powered tow rig is your best choice. Among other things the tranny with the 4.3 is less durable than what would be behind a V8 and I have also seen the rear end gears have trouble in that truck. My brother owned an older one and we had to swap the rear end after hauling a bunch of river rocks (little bigger than bowling ball sizes)
 

kornphlake

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You are correct in that some assumptions were made. I will concede your checking the oil level and it should have been done at each fill up when towing. But personally, I would never use the 4.3 V6 for a heavy long tow. For jobs like that a V8 powered tow rig is your best choice. Among other things the tranny with the 4.3 is less durable than what would be behind a V8 and I have also seen the rear end gears have trouble in that truck. My brother owned an older one and we had to swap the rear end after hauling a bunch of river rocks (little bigger than bowling ball sizes)

The 4L60E used with the 4.3l V6 is also used behind a v8 in full size trucks and SUVs as well as camaros and corvettes. While I agree a bit more power might be useful for hauling heavy loads, in this case the transmission is not much of a handicap.

OP, if the blazer is now a total loss and only has scrap value you might consider making it a project car if you have the aptitude and/or interest. Blazers are a good platform for a V8 swap, it's basically a drop in replacement, there's no immediate need to swap the transmission or rear end. My understanding is that you will be required to replace at least the rear tires shortly after installing 2 more cylinders.
 
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FuzzyDunlop

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The 4L60E used with the 4.3l V6 is also used behind a v8 in full size trucks and SUVs as well as camaros and corvettes. While I agree a bit more power might be useful for hauling heavy loads, in this case the transmission is not much of a handicap.

OP, if the blazer is now a total loss and only has scrap value you might consider making it a project car if you have the aptitude and/or interest. Blazers are a good platform for a V8 swap, it's basically a drop in replacement, there's no immediate need to swap the transmission or rear end. My understanding is that you will be required to replace at least the rear tires shortly after installing 2 more cylinders.

lmao!
 

bruceb

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Not so simple a swap if it is a 4WD Blazer .. then some major mods are needed to fit the engine, tranny and transfer case in. They did that on one of the Powerblocktv.com shows and it was a lot of work.
 
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