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MrDudeMan

Lifer
Jan 15, 2001
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I'd love to know how some people are so sure of what his life was like behind closed doors. Idiots saying he was guilty and have literally no facts except for some accusations. He did some nutso stuff, sure, but you can't possibly have any idea what his life was really like and how much of it was just for the reaction. For all we know his kids played along with his antics.
 

Babbles

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: loki8481
is that the same kid who excitedly talked about how much money he was going to get and whose parents suddenly didn't care about justice as soon as they saw some green?

forced his kids to walk around with masks, veils, towels and even nets over their faces.

that's just a flat-out lie... or misrepresentation, at least.

the masks was the kids' mother's idea and was to prevent the kids' faces from being photographed as much as possible so that they could walk down the street without being mobbed.

I think you nailed the other little factoid about the kids accusing Michael Jackson - those recordings of them claiming there were going to clean up is a bit damning.

I don't doubt that he has an unusual - if not unhealthy - adult relationship with children, but I do find it a bit suspect that with all of the children he has been in contact with throughout his life not a single one actually took him to trial in a court of law. He settled only like two of them out of court.

Again, perhaps a mentally unhealthy relationship with kids, but does that really mean he bent them over and fucked 'em or something? Give it some time and I wonder how much "truth" may come out from these children. Who knows, maybe he did have sexual realtionships with them but now that Michael Jackson can't be sued perhaps people will come forward with the truth - regardless of what it is.

Furthermore the masks and disguise to hide their kids, while it does seem a bit bizarre to the typical 'average' person makes complete sense relative to their lifestyle. Good God, imagine being followed and hounded every single hour of your entire life - speaking of unhealthy, that sort of lifestyle is sure as shit not healthy.
 

BooGiMaN

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Jul 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: loki8481
is that the same kid who excitedly talked about how much money he was going to get and whose parents suddenly didn't care about justice as soon as they saw some green?

forced his kids to walk around with masks, veils, towels and even nets over their faces.

that's just a flat-out lie... or misrepresentation, at least.

the masks was the kids' mother's idea and was to prevent the kids' faces from being photographed as much as possible so that they could walk down the street without being mobbed.

this is what bothers me the most about the people that accused him...as a parent i would go to any lengths to see him rotting in jail if he molested my kids. no amount of money would sway me on my mission to put him behind bars.

 

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: dougp
Sucks he died, but I never liked him, and I don't think you could convince me that he didn't molest those children.

It bother's me a lot more that Billy Mays died, watching an episode of Pitchmen yesterday, they showed a few of the people he turned into millionaires - he honestly just wanted to help people turn their dreams into reality.

I liked Billy until I saw him chumming the water while Sully was swimming.
What a stupid bastard.

but sully had a shark repeller.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
I have no problem saying Michael Jackson was a great singer, a great dancer, or even a great entertainer, but there's no way I would ever say he was a great person.

Now, can the freak show end already? It's been a week and there are still endless amounts of TV airtime dedicated to this freak.... :|

Its the mass hypocrisy that says values, morals, ethics, and unselfishness are what our society values the most, when in reality people are far more focused and appreciative of entertainment and being entertained. People consider Mother Theresa 'great', but entertainment is where people's money and time goes, not to supporting people who have the focus and unselfishness of Mother Theresa.

So given what the world values most, he was indeed "great", perhaps the greatest individual entertainer based on global appeal and appreciation of his work.

As for the media attention...its not the media, its the insatiable viewers that are dictating what the media covers. Media is about ratings and selling ads, and when people really get sick of it, they will turn their focus away to stories that they believe will sell ads better. Granted some are getting very tired of the coverage and it will have an impact, but the appetite is still very strong imo.
 

ivol07

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Jun 25, 2002
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Wow, funny how something can get so twisted that you don't know who to believe. Not that I really care a whole lot. But I've also read a total opposite side of the story:

Admitting to Schwartz that he had ?been rehearsed? about what to say and what not to say, Chandler never mentioned money during their conversation. When Schwartz asked what Jackson had done that made Chandler so upset, Chandler alleged only that ?he broke up the family. [The boy] has been seduced by this guy?s power and money.? Both men repeatedly berated themselves as poor fathers to the boy.

Elsewhere on the tape, Chandler indicated he was prepared to move against Jackson: ?It?s already set,? Chandler told Schwartz. ?There are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I?ve paid them to do it. Everything?s going according to a certain plan that isn?t just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy [his attorney, Barry K. Rothman, presumably] is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I?ve given him full authority to do that.?

Chandler then predicted what would, in fact, transpire six weeks later: ?And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There?s no way I lose. I?ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]...and Michael?s career will be over.?

?Does that help [the boy]?? Schwartz asked.

?That?s irrelevant to me,? Chandler replied. ?It?s going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don?t get what I want.?

Instead of going to the police, seemingly the most appropriate action in a situation involving suspected child molestation, Chandler had turned to a lawyer. And not just any lawyer. He?d turned to Barry Rothman.

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Pacfanweb

Lifer
Jan 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
:thumbsup: Agree whole-heartedly with this article.

Absolutely. Guy was a sicko, plain and simple. I don't care how relevant he was in the music business earlier in his career.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Yet they couldn't find one reputable witness against him. Everyone had some sort of vendetta or weird fixation with him.

Personally I don't think he was a molester, I just think he was an eccentric wacko who liked hanging out with little kids b/c most adults are lying assholes. Is it possible he molested the kids? Of course, yet not one good witness emerged in 20 years to say so, despite him spending time with thousands of kids around the world. Now if you want to put reasonable doubt on whether he was a child molester, simply consider that.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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a) Sad when someone has to write slandering sht about someone who is dead and profits off it.
b) There was never any iota of evidence of Jacko molesting any children yet there was evidence against the people who accused him.
c) The family that settled with Jacko clearly did it for a fast buck.
d) His death is being sensationlized because he was the KING OF POP, duh.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons


I figured a few had an opinion like this...I wonder if she will get fired.

/New York Post

so, not a chance as this is exactly the kind of drivel they publish.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
I'd love to know how some people are so sure of what his life was like behind closed doors. Idiots saying he was notguilty and have literally no facts except for some accusations. He did some nutso stuff, sure, but you can't possibly have any idea what his life was really like and how much of it was just for the reaction. For all we know his kids played along with his antics.

fixed
 

rasczak

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: ivol07
Wow, funny how something can get so twisted that you don't know who to believe. Not that I really care a whole lot. But I've also read a total opposite side of the story:

Admitting to Schwartz that he had ?been rehearsed? about what to say and what not to say, Chandler never mentioned money during their conversation. When Schwartz asked what Jackson had done that made Chandler so upset, Chandler alleged only that ?he broke up the family. [The boy] has been seduced by this guy?s power and money.? Both men repeatedly berated themselves as poor fathers to the boy.

Elsewhere on the tape, Chandler indicated he was prepared to move against Jackson: ?It?s already set,? Chandler told Schwartz. ?There are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I?ve paid them to do it. Everything?s going according to a certain plan that isn?t just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy [his attorney, Barry K. Rothman, presumably] is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I?ve given him full authority to do that.?

Chandler then predicted what would, in fact, transpire six weeks later: ?And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There?s no way I lose. I?ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]...and Michael?s career will be over.?

?Does that help [the boy]?? Schwartz asked.

?That?s irrelevant to me,? Chandler replied. ?It?s going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don?t get what I want.?

Instead of going to the police, seemingly the most appropriate action in a situation involving suspected child molestation, Chandler had turned to a lawyer. And not just any lawyer. He?d turned to Barry Rothman.

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wow those are are worse than scum
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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I'm not convinced he molested kids, but am pretty convinced he was a closeted homosexual. He didn't pursue women, which he could have gotten as many as he wanted, but he didn't seem to have any lust for them.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: jjsole
I'm not convinced he molested kids, but am pretty convinced he was a closeted homosexual. He didn't pursue women, which he could have gotten as many as he wanted, but he didn't seem to have any lust for them.

according to Lisa Marie, he was amazing in bed :shocked:

/not an image I wanted in my head
 
Aug 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Babbles
I think the writer of the article is just being overly-vindictive and hateful. I'm not going to even try to defend Michael Jackson's actions, but this article is just poorly written with brainless statements.

Yeah, that blatant truth telling needs to stop.

Blatant truth? Saying he was a pedophile isn't the blatant truth. It's an accusation, one, I might add that he was found not guilty of. But since it deals with children, people get their emotions to caught up in it to see the facts.
The man was weird, that much is true, but he was more weird because he was like a 8 year old in a man's body when it came to his social skills it seemed, and I think we can attribute that to Joe Jackson more than anything.
 
Aug 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: loki8481
is that the same kid who excitedly talked about how much money he was going to get and whose parents suddenly didn't care about justice as soon as they saw some green?

forced his kids to walk around with masks, veils, towels and even nets over their faces.

that's just a flat-out lie... or misrepresentation, at least.

the masks was the kids' mother's idea and was to prevent the kids' faces from being photographed as much as possible so that they could walk down the street without being mobbed.

this is what bothers me the most about the people that accused him...as a parent i would go to any lengths to see him rotting in jail if he molested my kids. no amount of money would sway me on my mission to put him behind bars.

Exactly, a real parent wouldn't trade justice for their child for money. Hell most dads out there would probably kill a guy for molesting his kids before he took a dime from the molester. I know I would.
 
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