Sheriff Joe Arpaio puts inmates on bread and water for destroying US flag

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LunarRay

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I think it is fine to destroy and/or dispose of one's own property according to what laws may govern that... I don't think it is fine to destroy and/or dispose of governmental property since it belongs to us all according to the laws that govern that. It appears that the flags in question do not belong to the inmates and do belong to the governmental agency in which the inmates find themselves occupying and doing so without a typical leasing agreement which may give certain rights concerning the property covered by those leasing agreements.

The diet the Sheriff has deemed appropriate for the actions taken by the inmates seems to meet the State guidelines on dietary content.
 

Angry Irishman

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So what is the appropriate punishment....these are prisoners. Should they be rewarded? Lord this country is going screwy.
 

cuafpr

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totally ok with this! I see nothing wrong with that, or how he makes them sleep in tents etc... It's not really hard to stay out of jail anyways.
 

Doppel

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The diet the Sheriff has deemed appropriate for the actions taken by the inmates seems to meet the State guidelines on dietary content.
First, there's no way simple bread meets the dietary content of any human being. Second, I can't find what the state guidelines are, or the national ones. The closest I found was a very long and not-gonna-read article on prison food law.
 

Double Trouble

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Sounds like a big deal about nothing. Bread and water is not some horrible punishment, and if you don't want to be on the bread and water routine, don't destroy the flag that was placed in your cell. Not too complicated.

I like Sheriff Joe, he doesn't buy into pc bullshit and speaks his mind, though I don't always agree with him.
 

PokerGuy

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That guy rocks, we need lots more like him and the country would be a much better place.

Lefties just can't stand the idea of rules and being accountable for your actions apparently.
 

fskimospy

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That guy rocks, we need lots more like him and the country would be a much better place.

Lefties just can't stand the idea of rules and being accountable for your actions apparently.

Conservatives claim to love people being held accountable for their actions, unless that person is a conservative.

For reference, look at all the butthurt that comes from every thread detailing Sherrif Joe being held accountable for his actions.
 

dphantom

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If he or anyone has done something illegal, then they should be held to account. otherwise, I would be pleased to see more Sheriff Joe's across this country.
 

sandorski

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Sounds like a big deal about nothing. Bread and water is not some horrible punishment, and if you don't want to be on the bread and water routine, don't destroy the flag that was placed in your cell. Not too complicated.

I like Sheriff Joe, he doesn't buy into pc bullshit and speaks his mind, though I don't always agree with him.

He's a nut.
 

bshole

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Putting flags in cells seems like a waste of money to me.

No shit. They are wasting taxpayer dollars to put American flags in the cells of inmates? I suspect the flags were put in there just to give the sheriff another opportunity to fuck with the inmates.
 
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sandorski

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No shit. They are wasting taxpayer dollars to put American flags in the cells of inmates?

It doesn't even make sense to do so. Usually cells are bare to prevent all types of potential shenanigans. It seems to fit his MO though.
 

PokerGuy

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Conservatives claim to love people being held accountable for their actions, unless that person is a conservative.

For reference, look at all the butthurt that comes from every thread detailing Sherrif Joe being held accountable for his actions.

Except that in his case he's not really being held accountable for his actions, he's the victim of the usual witch-hunt that can be expected for anyone who dares oppose politically correct forces or the dear leader.... or gasp.. both.

I'm completely for people being held accountable for their actions, but not for selective enforcement based on political considerations.
 

PokerGuy

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If he or anyone has done something illegal, then they should be held to account. otherwise, I would be pleased to see more Sheriff Joe's across this country.

Yep. It's only those who don't want to ever see people held accountable for their actions (the kind of idiots who always think society is to blame when someone does something bad) who don't like his approach.
 

ch33zw1z

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Yep. It's only those who don't want to ever see people held accountable for their actions (the kind of idiots who always think society is to blame when someone does something bad) who don't like his approach.

Inmates are already being held accountable for their actions...lol. That's why their inmates.

Sheriff Joe wasted tax payers money to provide an outlet for his sadistic urges. Wasted money everywhere I look.

edit: Well played Sheriff, to inmates: You just got served...bread and water.
 
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brandonb

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I like Sheriff Joe's style.

Just because a flag is put in your cell doesn't give you the right to destroy it. Sometimes life just isn't fair. A lesson liberals need to learn.
 

ch33zw1z

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I like Sheriff Joe's style.

Just because a flag is put in your cell doesn't give you the right to destroy it. Sometimes life just isn't fair. A lesson liberals need to learn.

Are you saying only liberals destroyed the flag in the cell? If so, got a link to back that up?
 

nehalem256

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I like Sheriff Joe's style.

Just because a flag is put in your cell doesn't give you the right to destroy it. Sometimes life just isn't fair. A lesson liberals need to learn.

Actually quite often liberals complain that life IS FAIR.

What, I do bad/stupid things and then bad stuff happens to me!? UNFAIR!!!!!

This would appear to be one of those cases
 

bshole

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Actually quite often liberals complain that life IS FAIR.

What, I do bad/stupid things and then bad stuff happens to me!? UNFAIR!!!!!

This would appear to be one of those cases

Ok, Sheriff Joe did a bad/stupid thing, when is something bad going to happen to him?
 

fskimospy

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Except that in his case he's not really being held accountable for his actions, he's the victim of the usual witch-hunt that can be expected for anyone who dares oppose politically correct forces or the dear leader.... or gasp.. both.

I'm completely for people being held accountable for their actions, but not for selective enforcement based on political considerations.

Gee, nobody saw that response coming.

When Sheriff Joe does something he is 'holding people accountable'. When his superiors move to hold Sheriff Joe accountable it's a witch hunt.

Your penchant for doublethink is impressive.
 

brandonb

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Are you saying only liberals destroyed the flag in the cell? If so, got a link to back that up?

When you bite the hand that feeds you, it's going to get smacked. Sheriff Joe just demonstrated that. Liberalism is all about getting the people dependent on that hand and becoming one with the system. Much like the prisoners in a prison may be. And if you act out, well. You're going to be smacked. This is just a glimpse of the crusade you all are pioneering for. Right now I'm sure you have no issues with those pesky conservatives who act out, and love to see them smacked, but watch out. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You will not be immune.

If you think I'm championing conservatism, think again.

Don't you think there is a massive chess game going on within society and/or politics? People are the pawns. Two players going back and forth. Once you realize this is false, and in fact, there is only 1 player playing both sides will you realize that life has never been fair, and will never be fair. Realize that you are already a slave to the system. That system may be tolerating the actions of both sides because it allows them to erode our protections while we are not paying attention. But when you start pissing in their Wheaties, we're all going to get a nice big whack. Pray you are not a liberal and dependent on the system.

Once you realize life isn't fair, and will never be fair, you can start to claw your way through society with a greater understanding, and find ways through it, not only for your benefit but to those around you. You see. People aren't allowing you to live just because you're living, and that you're awesome. They are allowing you to life because you serve a purpose. Eliminate that purpose, and well. Your life has no meaning.

Think about it for a bit before you respond.
 

ch33zw1z

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When you bite the hand that feeds you, it's going to get smacked. Sheriff Joe just demonstrated that. Liberalism is all about getting the people dependent on that hand and becoming one with the system. Much like the prisoners in a prison may be. And if you act out, well. You're going to be smacked. This is just a glimpse of the crusade you all are pioneering for.

Who is "you are all"? And why do you feel the need to lump me in with them. The sooner people stop letting the government pit them against each other, then better.

Right now I'm sure you have no issues with those pesky conservatives who act out, and love to see them smacked, but watch out. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You will not be immune.

I'm sure you're wrong. I don't personally care who someone claims political affiliation with in situations such as this. I'm not a liberal, or a conservative. I'm a person who wants freedom for all....regardless of political or religious affiliations. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that I'm anywhere close to the majority.

If you think I'm championing conservatism, think again.

I don't think you're championing anything, I was seriously asking what exactly you were trying to say. It sounded like you believe either liberals were the only ones who destroyed the flags, or that liberals are the only ones who end up in prison.

Don't you think there is a massive chess game going on within society and/or politics?

Yes, I do. It's the government versus the people.

People are the pawns. Two players going back and forth. Once you realize this is false, and in fact, there is only 1 player playing both sides will you realize that life has never been fair, and will never be fair. Realize that you are already a slave to the system. That system may be tolerating the actions of both sides because it allows them to erode our protections while we are not paying attention. But when you start pissing in their Wheaties, we're all going to get a nice big whack. Pray you are not a liberal and dependent on the system.

Once you realize life isn't fair, and will never be fair, you can start to claw your way through society with a greater understanding, and find ways through it, not only for your benefit but to those around you. You see. People aren't allowing you to live just because you're living, and that you're awesome. They are allowing you to life because you serve a purpose. Eliminate that purpose, and well. Your life has no meaning.

Think about it for a bit before you respond.

Wow, my simple question got this much response. Thanks dude....but you still didn't answer it!

Life will never be fair, it's just the way it is. I'm currently raising two children and have been going over this topic repeatedly.

It's funny(not ha-ha funny) you even went this far. Right now I'm teaching them the "Golden Rule", but as they get older...I'll tell them how it really is.

Oh, and not just liberals are dependent on the system. There's many conservatives that suckle from the government teet as well.
 
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Oldgamer

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Considering that Arizona has had a high mortality rate (deaths) of Prisoners, due to neglect and abuse, I don't think their "elite" class over there care much about anyone in jail or prison. Even if the majority of inmates there are for non-violent offenses and or got caught up in the system due to the mandatory and maximum sentences, even for first time offenders.

I do think that this Sheriff is really "loony" and very dangerous. He puts these flags in their cells as a way to antagonize them, knowing full well many are probably very depressed, angry and feeling humiliated from all his known abuses (no telling what we don't know in the way of his abuses). Most of them are immigrants too from my understanding. He really hates Mexicans and Blacks, and what ever he can get away with in the way of being abusive (even if it's illegal, or borderline illegal) he will do it.

As long as the people in Arizona allow him to continue he will keep on doing crap like this. I remember reading he would put the prisoners out in tents outside in 110 degree weather and give them very little water. He would force many to wear ladies pink underwear to humiliate them. In my opinion this is not helping anyone and makes things much more dangerous for civilians living in Arizona. Many in these places have serious mental health issues, and this will make them much much worse. If they ever get out, they will be a ball of anger and hate, and whoa to the people who get in their path.
 
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