Shhh were not talking about elder scrolls online

[justin4pack]

As I'm not sure the NDA, I'm very interested in those who got invites to post some reviews.

 

[KaOTiK]

Have you played a wow? Have you played a one of the last 2 ES games? Put it together and that is ESO from everything I've seen/read/heard

 

[JamesV]

The real question, is if there will be an AnandTech guild.

I hooked up with some people here to play Guild Wars 2 when it came out, and it was the best MMO guild experience I ever had. I played EQ, Lineage, WoW, AC, and many others briefly, and never was part of a better guild.

Not enough hardcore players, but a few of us pillaged exploitable dungeons and spent hours and hours farming undead together. Was pretty kick-ass to go into a MMO with a guild already formed.

 

[SunnyD]

@$15/month subscription... I'm done talking about it. CYA when it fails miserably and goes F2P!

 

[Craig234]

@$15/month subscription... I'm done talking about it. CYA when it fails miserably and goes F2P!

So, you'd rather have a game that's at war with you, placing unnecessary time-consuming, tedious obstacles in your way to get you to buy ways around them, instead of playig a game where you pay a fair price for the content, and the game is designed only for your entertainment, not to punish you if you don't buy things?

 

[Bateluer]

@$15/month subscription... I'm done talking about it. CYA when it fails miserably and goes F2P!

Heh, that was the best thing about ESO. Sub means it won't attract as many of the bottom feeding suction eels and children. The community benefits greatly when those 'people' aren't playing the game.

 

[SunnyD]

So, you'd rather have a game that's at war with you, placing unnecessary time-consuming, tedious obstacles in your way to get you to buy ways around them, instead of playig a game where you pay a fair price for the content, and the game is designed only for your entertainment, not to punish you if you don't buy things?

Trying to remember the last game that "punished" me for not buying something. Hmm... that would have been a subscription MMO, for when the subscription ran out.

Every F2P MMO that I've played to date and enjoyed that I've bothered to spend money on was money spent solely because I wanted to, not because I had to to progress or stay competitive. The only F2P MMO game that I felt was gated via monetization was LOTRO, and even then they make it easy enough for you to "live within your means" in game.

Best part of the F2P model in my eyes is that it lets me come and go as I please and not feel obligated to play in order to "get my money's worth".

 

[cbrunny]

Heh, that was the best thing about ESO. Sub means it won't attract as many of the bottom feeding suction eels and children. The community benefits greatly when those 'people' aren't playing the game.

$15/mo is a bit high if you ask me. I wouldn't mind paying something, but not sure $15 a month is reasonable.

 

[imaheadcase]

$15/mo is a bit high if you ask me. I wouldn't mind paying something, but not sure $15 a month is reasonable.

Oh no, you have to give up a couple fast food meals a month. The travesty!

I played the beta weekend thing, it was pretty boring. Nothing new or exciting from standard mmo.

 

[PowerYoga]

$15 for a month of entertainment, what a terrible!

 

[Craig234]

Trying to remember the last game that "punished" me for not buying something. Hmm... that would have been a subscription MMO, for when the subscription ran out.

Every F2P MMO that I've played to date and enjoyed that I've bothered to spend money on was money spent solely because I wanted to, not because I had to to progress or stay competitive. The only F2P MMO game that I felt was gated via monetization was LOTRO, and even then they make it easy enough for you to "live within your means" in game.

Best part of the F2P model in my eyes is that it lets me come and go as I please and not feel obligated to play in order to "get my money's worth".

Free to pay games I'm thinking of made progression far easier if you paid.

One put areas you need close if you paid premium, and you couldn't use them otherwise.

World of Tanks offers about double the progression, and faster crew training, if you pay them money (earlier that was also better ammo, but they changed that).

Heroes of Might and Magic Online made things take hours or longer - unless you pay.

That's the business model - they have to create incentive for you to pay.

Cute cosmetics don't seem enough to get the revenue they want; there is some punishment you can get rid of if you pay.

 

[epidemis]

Heh, that was the best thing about ESO. Sub means it won't attract as many of the bottom feeding suction eels and children. The community benefits greatly when those 'people' aren't playing the game.

That's wishful thinking

 

[Markbnj]

Have beta invitations actually gone out?

 

[Bateluer]

$15/mo is a bit high if you ask me. I wouldn't mind paying something, but not sure $15 a month is reasonable.

15/momth has been standard for MMOs with subs, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, etc. I'll withhold saying ESO's 15/month is fair until we know what content is available at launch and how they plan to continue it though.

That's wishful thinking

Its just been the modus operandi of every other F2P game and P2P game that went F2P. Even worse when the game starts as P2P and becomes F2P, the community downhill slide is staggering. All the good people bail very quickly, and all you have left are shitheads.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Heh, that was the best thing about ESO. Sub means it won't attract as many of the bottom feeding suction eels and children. The community benefits greatly when those 'people' aren't playing the game.

-Or it might attract the entitled douchbag elitists that can't be bothered by casual players and/or people trying to actually enjoy themselves.

 

[imaheadcase]

-Or it might attract the entitled douchbag elitists that can't be bothered by casual players and/or people trying to actually enjoy themselves.

That has not stopped League of Legends players, not a MMO, but same concept. hehe I love to troll that game.

 

[Feneant2]

15$ a month is nothing, I would gladly start paying that right now to play in beta. Hell, I would pay even more for a game I loved to see it take away the idiots who only play because it's free.

 

[Wardawg1001]

Have beta invitations actually gone out?

There have been a couple waves of invites sent out, but I believe the total beta population is still very small.

 

[Bateluer]

-Or it might attract the entitled douchbag elitists that can't be bothered by casual players and/or people trying to actually enjoy themselves.

I'd rather play with elitist players than 12 year olds and have to open my wallet every time I go to a new city or dungeon.

 

[shortylickens]

Heh, that was the best thing about ESO. Sub means it won't attract as many of the bottom feeding suction eels and children. The community benefits greatly when those 'people' aren't playing the game.

No it will attract people who think there is some sort of "status" in online games and they are too cool to play with certain kinds of people, like bottom feeders and children.

 

[SunnyD]

I'd rather play with elitist players than 12 year olds and have to open my wallet every time I go to a new city or dungeon.

He says as he'll have to open his wallet to go to new cities and dungeons on top of the monthly subscription anyway. *cough* Expansions *cough*

Meanwhile, back in reality, I haven't paid for gated content in a F2P mmo since LOTRO. (And when it was said and done, I paid via buying the original P2P expansion...)

Why? Because none of the F2P mmo's I've played HAVE GATED CONTENT.

 

[justin4pack]

If only they could follow the ways of gw2. So much content. Gem store is mainly for cosmetics.

 

[JamesV]

If only they could follow the ways of gw2. So much content. Gem store is mainly for cosmetics.

I hope not. I did like GW2, but end game was farming one zone, and certain dungeons over and over and over. If it wasn't for the PVP and WvW, I probably would have quit much sooner.

As for the sub cost; I look at all my games like any other entertainment. If I get 80 hours of play a month for $15, then that is bargain.

I'm also not a fan of free to play; even if you can 'buy' things by simply playing a lot. I'd rather just buy the game and get everything, and have everyone on a level playing field.

 

[Dankk]

This game is going to fail so hard when players realize it's generic fantasy MMO #247 with an Elder Scrolls theme slapped on top of it. It will drop the monthly subscription for an F2P model within a year of it's release. Mark my words.

 

[SunnyD]

Pay to Play AND Pay to Win!!!

Slightly sensationalized, but laughable given all the... how shall we say, "gripes"? ... about the F2P "cash" model none the less.

*yawn*